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[FahRENheit06]

Spitfire017 wrote...

The chances of her being born at all is lowered substantially without the fall of General Williams. the only reason, as far as we know, he joined the Navy is to redeem his family name. By doing so, he met his future wife in a random encounter and they had Ash. He might have not even joined the Navy or, if he did so, could have been an officer. Doesn't mean that he would not meet the future Mrs.Williams, but the chances are remote. Therefore, the possibility of Ash being born is remote.

How do you figure she wouldn't be born? I looked up the timeline for ME. The First Contact War was 2157, Ashley was born in 2158. Which puts General Williams in his 50s, assuming he and his wife had a son 25~ years ago and Ashley's father got married in his mid-20s.

Ashley being born after the First Contact War is why Shepard is surprised she'd celebrate Armistice Day (in ME1). It'd be like us celebrating the end of World War 2; sure, it's a big deal, but we don't have full context since we weren't around when it ended.

@JedTed: Yea, Sarah Williams was just another generic ME3 character. No resemblance to Ash at at.. I think Sarah Shahi would be a little old for Sarah, because in ME1, Sarah was still a senior in high school so she's only like 20-21 in ME3.

...I think both of these rebuttals just proved what a giant geek I am. /sigh

- Ren

EDIT: Top Ash... GUN!

Modifié par FahRENheit06, 19 juillet 2012 - 04:47 .

[JedTed]

If her Grandfather did die at Shanxi i think she'd still work hard to live up to his legacy. Though she wouldn't be under the constant scrutiny of her superiors.

I agree that Ash's character would be slightly different but i think she'd still be a tough solider because it's in her blood.

[Td1984]

JedTed wrote...

Spitfire017 wrote...

I cast my vote for Olivia Wilde being Ashley. I think she can pull it off.

<snip>

Disclaimer: I really hope the ME movie is canned, burned, the ashes buried and never seen again for the rest of eternity. I don't like the idea anymore than you do.

I'm against the idea of a ME movie unless it's prequel to ME1 but if it must be base on the games then i could see Olivia Wilde as Ashley(especially after "Cowboys and Aliens").  Edit:  She might be better suited to Liara, IMO.

Going back to my Sarah Shahi suggestion, i think she'd be good to play Ashley's sister, Sarah.  I'm really disapointed they didn't give her a unique character model in ME3(atleast not the super generic face you see on every other female character).

If Yvonne Strahovski were not to reprise her role as Miranda in the movies and Olivia Wilde could pull off an Aussie accent, I actually think she'd make a decent Miranda (there's a drawing of Miranda where she looks eerily like Olivia Wilde actually). 

[JedTed]

FahRENheit06 wrote...

@JedTed: Yea, Sarah Williams was just another generic ME3 character. No resemblance to Ash at at.. I think Sarah Shahi would be a little old for Sarah, because in ME1, Sarah was still a senior in high school so she's only like 20-21 in ME3.

Shahi deffinatly looks young enough to play 20, or even younger, she's short and her figure isn't that unbelevable to be a high school senior.

[CptData]

Have a random Ash pic:


Sometimes there's nothing better than the classics...

I stick with my theory Ash wouldn't be the same if her Grandfather would have died as hero on Shanxi. Either she'd climbed up the latter quite fast (as officer), be a member of the N7 program, maybe even a rival of Shepard. But definitely not part of the crew and not interested in Shepard. Actually, she even could be the first human Spectre instead of Shepard ...

[Dannycni]

I'm finding it hard to weigh in but here's a pic:

[FahRENheit06]

Unamused Ash is unamused.

CptData wrote...

I stick with my theory Ash wouldn't be the same if her Grandfather would have died as hero on Shanxi. Either she'd climbed up the latter quite fast (as officer), be a member of the N7 program, maybe even a rival of Shepard. But definitely not part of the crew and not interested in Shepard. Actually, she even could be the first human Spectre instead of Shepard ...

Seems quite possible. They certainly wouldn't have met on Eden Prime, since that sort of colony outpost would probably be pretty lame for a reputable soldier.

- Ren

Modifié par FahRENheit06, 19 juillet 2012 - 07:01 .

[Spitfire017]

FahRENheit06 wrote...

Spitfire017 wrote...

The chances of her being born at all is lowered substantially without the fall of General Williams. the only reason, as far as we know, he joined the Navy is to redeem his family name. By doing so, he met his future wife in a random encounter and they had Ash. He might have not even joined the Navy or, if he did so, could have been an officer. Doesn't mean that he would not meet the future Mrs.Williams, but the chances are remote. Therefore, the possibility of Ash being born is remote.

How do you figure she wouldn't be born? I looked up the timeline for ME. The First Contact War was 2157, Ashley was born in 2158. Which puts General Williams in his 50s, assuming he and his wife had a son 25~ years ago and Ashley's father got married in his mid-20s.

Ashley being born after the First Contact War is why Shepard is surprised she'd celebrate Armistice Day (in ME1). It'd be like us celebrating the end of World War 2; sure, it's a big deal, but we don't have full context since we weren't around when it ended.

I've always been under the impression that her father joined after the First Contact war, and it was during his first few years of service that he met future Mrs. Williams, so after 2158. Thats what I got out of her conversations in ME1.

But, Iam probably wrong if the numbers don't add up. Perhaps Mr. & Mrs. Williams were already married by that time and he enlisted after the war ended, with her support. That is the only way I can see to remedy any conflicts between her talks on the SR1 and the timeline we have.

*sigh*
just like most things involving ME universe and Ash's storyline, its all fracked up. <_<

[ExorioN PL]

CptData wrote...

Which mission?

Modifié par ExorioN PL, 20 juillet 2012 - 04:26 .

[Dragon_Claw]

Hello gorgeous!  

[FahRENheit06]

@Dragon Claw: Lol! Where did that pic come from?

@Spitfire: Yea, the timeline for Mass Effect annoys me some, too. I mean, humanity discovered the Prothean ruins on Mars in 2148, and 10 years later they were already mass producing mass effect technology into starships and traipsing through relays to start war with the turians? Just like 50,000 years seems like too short a time period for the Reapers to go on a rampage or for so many races to rise up in the galaxy, since evolution takes millions of years. That would mean there are generally about 5-10 species every 50,000 years peaking their evolution to be noticed by the Reapers. I don't know if the odds of life-habitable planets are THAT awesome in a single galaxy to just be cranking out advanced species that often.

...okay, that got a little too geeky. I never should have taken astronomy in college. Or math. Or science. Or at least bothered to pay attention so that I get uppity over crap like this.

But anyway, Ashley's Dad was probably just starting his military career assuming he joined up right out of high school before the First Contact War screwed over Grandpa Williams with trickle-down screw over for his kids/grandkids. If your dad is a General, I bet the pressure to jump right into the military is pretty high. I bet Dad Williams was all "Man, this'll be great! Pop is a General and we just discovered all this awesome technology and my wife is pregnant and life is freaking awesome! Nothing could possibly go wrong!"





- Ren

Modifié par FahRENheit06, 19 juillet 2012 - 09:10 .

[Spitfire017]

Dragon_Claw wrote...

Hello gorgeous!   [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/kissing.png[/smilie]

ah, yes. Ash's "Draw me like one of your French girls" poses.



:lol::lol::lol:

Modifié par Spitfire017, 19 juillet 2012 - 09:09 .

[Spitfire017]

FahRENheit06 wrote...

But anyway, Ashley's Dad was probably just starting his military career assuming he joined up right out of high school before the First Contact War screwed over Grandpa Williams with trickle-down screw over for his kids/grandkids. If your dad is a General, I bet the pressure to jump right into the military is pretty high. I bet Dad Williams was all "Man, this'll be great! Pop is a General and we just discovered all this awesome technology and my wife is pregnant and life is freaking awesome! Nothing could possibly go wrong!"





- Ren

Okay. That sounds like the most correct scenario. Poor Mr.Williams. I could see him being an officer cadet before/during the war, working his way towards a commission as a LT. He gets denied it because of his grandfathers surrender, but still remains in the Navy despite it, becoming a NCM. Its so sad.

Okay...the above is my offical headcanon from now on. It would have been the opposite if General Williams died and become the Hero of Shanxi.

And I am annoyed as well by the ME lore. Its fracking frustrating.

[AbsoluteApril]

question - can anyone help me figure out what the sholders are on Ashley's ME3 outfit?

I'm hoping to do her blue armor as a cosplay (once I get this other armor finished.. by the end of the year at this pace). Anyways.. I cannot figure out her sholders. Is it stiff leather? Is it armor sholder guards? Is it just stretched fabric over boning/structure? any ideas? thanks!

edit to add - I think it's armor but it just seemed odd that her only armor was the sholders while the rest of the outfit is leather.

Modifié par AbsoluteApril, 19 juillet 2012 - 09:40 .

[Dragon_Claw]

FahRENheit06 wrote...

@Dragon Claw: Lol! Where did that pic come from?

I stumbled over it on Deviantart... And its just now that I noticed, that Ash has a gunshot wound, and she´s still smilling.

HARDCORE!!!  

[FahRENheit06]

AbsoluteApril wrote...

question - can anyone help me figure out what the sholders are on Ashley's ME3 outfit?

I'm hoping to do her blue armor as a cosplay (once I get this other armor finished.. by the end of the year at this pace). Anyways.. I cannot figure out her sholders. Is it stiff leather? Is it armor sholder guards? Is it just stretched fabric over boning/structure? any ideas? thanks!

edit to add - I think it's armor but it just seemed odd that her only armor was the sholders while the rest of the outfit is leather.

I think it is actually harder armor. The shoulders and like round things on both sides of her waist seem to be armored, plus possibly some of the knee pad parts.

Pulling the image of the action figure just to show the sides and back:
[img]https://www.megapopcherry.com/wp-content/themes/acquisto-theme-official2/timthumb.php?src=https://www.megapopcherry.com/products/uploads//2012/05/Ashley-Williams-Play-Arts-Kai-1.jpg&h=410&w=408[/img]

I'd have to go on youtube to look at her in battle, because I'd probably say the side things are gun holsters, but Ash carries an assault rifle and sniper rifle, which are too heavy for hip holstering (but this armor doesn't really show those little nodes like Shepard has to snap the weapons into place)

Best of luck with your cosplaying! My boyfriend really wants to build a Commander Shepard cosplay (or to start, a rifle) and me to cosplay with him as Ashley, but I don't have the ability or craftsmanship for cosplay.

- Ren

[CptData]

Ouch. Poor Ash - never could put her in danger getting shot.


Shepard: ... never could put you in danger getting shot, Ashley.
Ashley: You know that's wrong.
Shepard: Kinda. All the jobs we did together. In hindsight I say I should never have picked you in most of my away missions.
Ashley: So? *crosses arms* Maybe I should tell you how often I saved your sorry ass in the middle of a firefight. When I drew the fire of that nasty automated gun at me. Won't start to count how often my shields got depleted on the hunt for Saren ... seriously, Skipper.
Shepard: *smirks* You're right, Ash. I just think about all those moments when you nearly went down ...
Ashley: But I didn't went down. That's the important part.
Shepard: You could have died-
Ashley: And you DID die. Two times. *smirks* Don't tell me about the dangers we had to go through to save the galaxy. It's ... it was part of the job.
Shepard: Yeah. Still, it's not easy to think about the past and how easily I could have lost you.
Ashley: Then, Sir, you may stop watching the past and look forward. You fought hard for that future we have now, you better start enjoying it.
Shepard: That's an order?
Ashley: More than that. It comes from your wife.
Shepard: Aye-aye ...

[survivor_686]

Dragon_Claw wrote...

Hello gorgeous!  

Am I the only one whom notices the bullet hole?

[AbsoluteApril]

Thank you Ren!

[Td1984]

@survivor

I hadn't noticed it until you pointed that out. I even had to go looking for it. All of a sudden, that picture's not so good.

[BadExamp1e]

Can't really see Ashley as a wife... Hmm. Can anybody else? Or is it just me? I can see her as a mom someday though. Whether she has one kid, or two. Either suit!

[CptData]

BadExamp1e wrote...

Can't really see Ashley as a wife... Hmm. Can anybody else? Or is it just me? I can see her as a mom someday though. Whether she has one kid, or two. Either suit!

Well, take 2186, add 10 more years and ... yeah. Miss Ashley Williams ... or Ashley Shepard? Ashley Williams-Shepard? I don't know.

Bet those two lovers are ALWAYS discussing the name thing. Ash made her own name, it's cleansed from the tainting brought by those who didn't accept General Williams' surrender. And the name "Shepard" ... well, it's a legend. Do you think they ever give up their names?

[BadExamp1e]

Ashley certainly wouldn't give up her family name. The man she's with wouldn't force her or be upset about IMO. I'm sure Ashley will eventually get married I just can't picture it. Would things just carry on the same as what they were before or what?

[BadExamp1e]

On iPod btw. Sorry 4 typos =P

[SJNKD]

That's on the citadel when she has the standoff, she's dying there. Never experienced it myself, thank god. But it's the one which is more peaceful than screw you.