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Badpie wrote...

Hehe. I just tweeted this. Couldn't hurt.

@CaseyDHudson @macwalterslives On behalf of Ash/Kaidan fans everywhere I humbly request no unavoidable deaths or betrayals by them. They've had it rough enough already. Thanks. :)


Thanks! Well, if they answer it probably won't be so bad, if they don't...then we still know nothing Posted Image

@strawberry; I usually don't get nervous until, I don't know, I hear about the bad things that might happen to the characters I most love in a game, but when does that ever happen?

This is how I actually wanted ME3 (by Chignon):
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Pessimism: On

Shepard: Ash, why are you betraying me? :-(

Ash: I never got that dinner.

Shepard: D=

Pessimism: Off

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xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

StrawberryDemon wrote...

Oh I hate waiting for the games, I just get so...nervous? I know they said sacrifices, but Ash would be the BIGGEST sacrifice ever. (Personal opinion, and of course my Shepard's)

Same, if it's like ME2 then we've got nothing to worry about, but they could introduce a "Choice" system between squaddies and such.


I'd be fine with that... as that guarantees Ash to never die in any of my playthroughs rather than having a "she always gets captured/dies scenario"

Seriously, if that happened. I'd only play the game the once. I wouldn't wanna ever go through that kind of crap again. 


Aye. Ragequitting the game and flooding the BSN with hatethreads :lol:

Na, seriously. Being forced to kill Ash would ruin the whole game for me. I'm a sucker for happy romance endings. I don't need another Viconia :crying:

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xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

StrawberryDemon wrote...

Oh I hate waiting for the games, I just get so...nervous? I know they said sacrifices, but Ash would be the BIGGEST sacrifice ever. (Personal opinion, and of course my Shepard's)

Same, if it's like ME2 then we've got nothing to worry about, but they could introduce a "Choice" system between squaddies and such.


I'd be fine with that... as that guarantees Ash to never die in any of my playthroughs rather than having a "she always gets captured/dies scenario"

Seriously, if that happened. I'd only play the game the once. I wouldn't wanna ever go through that kind of crap again. 


I don't know if I'd even be able to play it once, I mean if Ash died somewhere in the middle...I suppose you've got to finish the trilogy.

@Brainheart; It's just how they keep releasing little spoilers with not a lot of background information, not good combination.

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TobiTobsen wrote...

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

StrawberryDemon wrote...

Oh I hate waiting for the games, I just get so...nervous? I know they said sacrifices, but Ash would be the BIGGEST sacrifice ever. (Personal opinion, and of course my Shepard's)

Same, if it's like ME2 then we've got nothing to worry about, but they could introduce a "Choice" system between squaddies and such.


I'd be fine with that... as that guarantees Ash to never die in any of my playthroughs rather than having a "she always gets captured/dies scenario"

Seriously, if that happened. I'd only play the game the once. I wouldn't wanna ever go through that kind of crap again. 


Aye. Ragequitting the game and flooding the BSN with hatethreads :lol:

Na, seriously. Being forced to kill Ash would ruin the whole game for me. I'm a sucker for happy romance endings. I don't need another Viconia :crying:


It wouldn't cause me to ragequit but every other Shepard would probably be a renegade...

Ofcourse the BSN can always use some more hatethreads! ( Posted Image)

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Mr. Brainheart wrote...

TobiTobsen wrote...

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

StrawberryDemon wrote...

Oh I hate waiting for the games, I just get so...nervous? I know they said sacrifices, but Ash would be the BIGGEST sacrifice ever. (Personal opinion, and of course my Shepard's)

Same, if it's like ME2 then we've got nothing to worry about, but they could introduce a "Choice" system between squaddies and such.


I'd be fine with that... as that guarantees Ash to never die in any of my playthroughs rather than having a "she always gets captured/dies scenario"

Seriously, if that happened. I'd only play the game the once. I wouldn't wanna ever go through that kind of crap again. 


Aye. Ragequitting the game and flooding the BSN with hatethreads :lol:

Na, seriously. Being forced to kill Ash would ruin the whole game for me. I'm a sucker for happy romance endings. I don't need another Viconia :crying:


It wouldn't cause me to ragequit but every other Shepard would probably be a renegade...

Ofcourse the BSN can always use some more hatethreads! ( Posted Image)


Sign me up for those hate threads if these fears are realized! haha

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Mr. Brainheart wrote...

Ofcourse the BSN can always use some more hatethreads! ( Posted Image)


What? Wasn't "To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee." the official slogan of the BSN?

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@Tobi; Oh in that case sign me up aswell! Should we also have pre-hate threads, you know, just to make sure?

What would Ash say in situations like these?

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"Somebody get that fire out!"

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Badpie wrote...

Hehe. I just tweeted this. Couldn't hurt.

@CaseyDHudson @macwalterslives On behalf of Ash/Kaidan fans everywhere I humbly request no unavoidable deaths or betrayals by them. They've had it rough enough already. Thanks. :)

I'm gonna go retweet this!Posted Image

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elektrego wrote...

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"Somebody get that fire out!"

No Ashley, point it at yourself!Posted Image

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Pups_of_war_76 wrote...

Badpie wrote...

Pups_of_war_76 wrote...

ratzerman wrote...

Here's the quote from the New York article...

"Shepard, however, is forced to save one character and sacrifice the other, and, in Mass Effect 2, whichever of the two was saved reappears to remonstrate with him or her. The result of the conversation, which can play out in various ways, determines how the character of A/K will interact with Shepard in Mass Effect 3."

"The new scene involves a tense exchange between Shepard and A/K. The first line of the scene was simple enough: 'Let her/him go.' But Hale had to say it multiple times, with different emphases, in order to communicate every possible state of alarm with which Shepard would react to A/K. Hale did her customary four takes of "Let her go," which she followed with four takes of "Let him go." Two were growly, hateful takes, and two were hard, urgent takes. As she finished, Hale flexed as if to indicate a deepening transformation into Shepard. She was then told that her lines had to be recorded as though she were running.

Hale's next line was 'No!' Livingstone turned to Walters and asked, 'Is this a panicked 'No' or an angry 'No?''
'It's a' - Walters hesitated - 'futile 'No.''
Hale nodded. 'No!' she said, stirringly, a moment later.
'More compassion,' Livingstone said. 'Less heightened.'
Hale tried again, and her 'No!' seemed to emerge from some alarmed, half-strangled place in her throat."


:-(


-_-


I feel a dejected spaghetti western coming on, Pups....


Not so fast! 

We did react with similar leeriness to grimdark!Liara, and that ended up turning out alright (so far).

We shouldn't resort to spaghetti westerns until a dorky Casey Hudson interview a couple of months before release hints that Ash and Kaidan have both turned into Evil Communist Space Templars and croons about how much cooler and deeper the change makes them as characters. 


A return of the Badpie - Pups spaghetti western would make my year. Just saying.

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ratzerman wrote...

Pups_of_war_76 wrote...

Badpie wrote...

Pups_of_war_76 wrote...

ratzerman wrote...

Here's the quote from the New York article...

"Shepard, however, is forced to save one character and sacrifice the other, and, in Mass Effect 2, whichever of the two was saved reappears to remonstrate with him or her. The result of the conversation, which can play out in various ways, determines how the character of A/K will interact with Shepard in Mass Effect 3."

"The new scene involves a tense exchange between Shepard and A/K. The first line of the scene was simple enough: 'Let her/him go.' But Hale had to say it multiple times, with different emphases, in order to communicate every possible state of alarm with which Shepard would react to A/K. Hale did her customary four takes of "Let her go," which she followed with four takes of "Let him go." Two were growly, hateful takes, and two were hard, urgent takes. As she finished, Hale flexed as if to indicate a deepening transformation into Shepard. She was then told that her lines had to be recorded as though she were running.

Hale's next line was 'No!' Livingstone turned to Walters and asked, 'Is this a panicked 'No' or an angry 'No?''
'It's a' - Walters hesitated - 'futile 'No.''
Hale nodded. 'No!' she said, stirringly, a moment later.
'More compassion,' Livingstone said. 'Less heightened.'
Hale tried again, and her 'No!' seemed to emerge from some alarmed, half-strangled place in her throat."


:-(


-_-


I feel a dejected spaghetti western coming on, Pups....


Not so fast! 

We did react with similar leeriness to grimdark!Liara, and that ended up turning out alright (so far).

We shouldn't resort to spaghetti westerns until a dorky Casey Hudson interview a couple of months before release hints that Ash and Kaidan have both turned into Evil Communist Space Templars and croons about how much cooler and deeper the change makes them as characters. 


A return of the Badpie - Pups spaghetti western would make my year. Just saying.



ONE DAY

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Huh. And I was totally hoping Ash and Alenko would have differing roles :<

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ADLegend21 wrote...

A personal mission for Ashley? sweet. She didn't have one in ME1 So I wonder what it could be.....


i hope we meet her family... be so awesome.:o

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Huh. And I was totally hoping Ash and Alenko would have differing roles :<


The way I understand the sparse info we have so far, they will each have their own story, but they still basically fill the same role on your team, so we probably will get some overlaps in how we interact with them.
Not really different from taking different team members on the same mission in ME1 and 2. Each team member might have their own different comment on what's going on, with Shepard's response being practically the same ever time, depending on your choice on the wheel.

Modifié par elektrego, 22 août 2011 - 08:04 .


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elektrego wrote...


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:wub::wub::wub:

Just saw this picture and I had to express my liking of it somehow.

Also, regarding this whole thing with the article quote:

I admit, I am a little paranoid that this will result in an unavoidable scene where she's held capitive (or worse) or where she betrays Shepard. I honestly can't stand the idea of Ashley becoming a legitimized villain or the idea of Ashley being killed 'canonically' because I've argued and scrapped with internet commentors for too long to see them suddenly get validated.

But still, I'm going to not worry for two reasons:
1. It is entirely possible that Ashley could die in Mass Effect 3 but, if the first two games are any indication, there's no reason to believe that her death would be unavoidable. Wrex doesn't automatically die on Virmire, there's a pretty good chance of him living. Similarly, whether Ashley or Kaidan lives or dies on Virmire is down the player choices, and not something forced.
Same with Mass Effect 2, there's no guarentee that Legion will ever join the team or if you'll have Samara or Morinith as the survivor of Samara's loyalty mission. And of course, it's all up to you if anyone lives or dies on the final mission. I guess what I'm saying is, with the exception of Jenkins, so far no one has been 'forced' to die for canon and it's all up to player options.
For all we know, the bits of dialogue mentioned in the article quote are only what might happen if the 'bad' option comes into play.

2. I doubt Ashley will be a traitor. Or at least I sincerly hope she isn't. I base this on the idea that first of all if they really did give her a massive physical design overhaul to make her more aesthetically pleasing, they probably were hoping or expecting to get large numbers of people to like her. I can't see why a dev would put so much time and energy into making a character look a certain way to make her appeal if they had been planning to make her evil as well.
Second of all, it's the same reason as I gave for the whole 'death' issue. I believe it would be more like Wrex on Virmire wherein there is a confrontation that may result in her dying or, more likely, result in her staying on.

While her being able to die a second time would bring in a new ocean of 'dur hur hur I killed her rednek ass on 'such and such'' comments,  I would be able to handle it if I still got the happy ending out of it.

That said, it's still a very long time from being released so I'm sure we'll get more news soon. As it stands, I can understand why everyone is feeling paranoid. I mean we've been handed the shortest stick of any other group of fans in the Mass Effect community and naturally it gives us reason to be concerned. But I refuse to believe in the worst until I actually see it.

I'm nervous about the future too, but one should always try to be hopeful about these things.

Modifié par V-rex, 22 août 2011 - 09:03 .


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V-rex wrote...

elektrego wrote...

*excellent Ash pic snipped*



:wub::wub::wub:

*great post by V-rex snipped*
(read his post above)


I agree with you V-rex.
It would be a huge slap in the face for the Ashley supporters if BW went that route.
There's already too much unecessary hate for her character as it stands.

Now, if it has to do with a stand-off with TIM, ala Tela Vasir-style, where we, or Ash, can pop a round into his head...

I will have no complaints. Posted Image

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@V-rex- I agree, nobody is more loyal to anything in Mass Effect than Ashley is to the Alliance. Samara would die for her code, but she chose to be a Justicar so that she could kill her daughter. Jacob left the Alliance immediately after being swept under the rug, and Garrus quit C-Sec, even though he said he would make an effort to stay and follow regs.
Now I love all these characters, but Ashley stayed with the Alliance, even though she was punished for her grandad's surrender(which is pretty controversial). She also was the only one who was willing to save Shepard when Wrex pulled his gun, and in ME2, she chose the Alliance over Cerberus because she knew about the things they had done to innocents. That is not the track record of a traitor.
Although, having one squad member betray the rest is an interesting idea...

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Well Dignam, Ashley's loyalty is somewhat blind. To me at least, she joined out of spite because of how her grandfather and Fther were treated so that she could change that for her family name. the reason why most people were upset with her, myself included at one point, was that The Alliance is sittin gon their hands during ME2 wether they're the ONLY thing guarding the citadel if the original council is dead, or if they can't get support form the other races because it's a "purely human matter". Cerberus IS the only one doing anyhting about the colonies besides stationing a Spectre (possibly) on a colony.

I would ammend your statement to add Jacob becuase he's loyal to making a difference. He knew the Alliance wasn't going to do anything good once the backslide started so he jumped ship to Cerberus because they were and he ended up Saving the council from an Assasination attempt. That's also why I think Ashley Ashley would have a great deal of respec for him even if he left the Alliance, because when it came down to it he did the right thing. Plus I imagined they had some history together on Eden prime *wink wink nudge nudge*

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ADLegend21 wrote...

Well Dignam, Ashley's loyalty is somewhat blind. To me at least, she joined out of spite because of how her grandfather and Fther were treated so that she could change that for her family name. the reason why most people were upset with her, myself included at one point, was that The Alliance is sittin gon their hands during ME2 wether they're the ONLY thing guarding the citadel if the original council is dead, or if they can't get support form the other races because it's a "purely human matter". Cerberus IS the only one doing anyhting about the colonies besides stationing a Spectre (possibly) on a colony.

I would ammend your statement to add Jacob becuase he's loyal to making a difference. He knew the Alliance wasn't going to do anything good once the backslide started so he jumped ship to Cerberus because they were and he ended up Saving the council from an Assasination attempt. That's also why I think Ashley Ashley would have a great deal of respec for him even if he left the Alliance, because when it came down to it he did the right thing. Plus I imagined they had some history together on Eden prime *wink wink nudge nudge*


Well I think a soldier's loyalty has to be somewhat blind because under fire if you think otherwise for a second you can end up dead. I am hoping Ash still has some of the qualities of a modern soldier in ME3.

I don't know how much Ash and Jacob knew each other because I have alway figured that Jacob was more of a lone wolf and Ash more of a squad teamwork kinda girl. That is one of the things I want to find out how Bioware connects Ash and Jacob. Plus I would assume they both will have a common "distrust" of Leigon/Geth. I would like to see some unique dialouge between them.

Edit: Also I have not been around in about a month. So has there been any new Ash news?

Modifié par Telemachus78, 22 août 2011 - 08:31 .


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I like ashley but I thought her dismissal of my arguments about Cerberus at Horizon was irrational and infuriating. Still I look forward to a better experience in ME 3.

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Yo Tele, welcome back!

Um, only that Hale recorded lines involving the VS saying "Let her/him go" and a sad "no" and an angry "no!"

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@Telemachus; why do you figure jacob is a lonewolf? I mean I believe he usually works in a team and he's not un-social. I think could kid around very well, I'm not sure they would have a very deep friendship though.

@ADL; I was dissapointed that Jacob didn't mention Eden Prime in relation with Ash..and they didn't recognize each other on horizon. I thought that that was a missed oppertunity