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[sporeaddict101]

enayasoul wrote...

Not if *I* never take Ashley with me. I could send her off to Hackett where she can do some good and grow as a soldier. Shepard tells Ashley she needs to lead and not *follow* him. Ashley needs to get out there and lead and not look to him to make her feel *good enough*. Miranda doesn't need to be told to be *independent* and lead. She does that already. Miranda does high risk jobs all by herself even when Shepard offered to help. That's why I like Miranda. She's a grown woman who can take care of herself. Miranda is open-minded enough to see the *bigger picture* when needed.

Lol that's what a shallow Shepard or person who hasn't played ME1, and hasn't conversed with Ashley would say. She says herself  that she doesn't need a knight and shining armor to rescue her. She doesn't need a shoulder to cry on. She took care of all her three sisters while growing up. She can handle a gun and take care of herself just fine. If anything your Shepard is the weak one because he is sending off the second, and might I say beautiful, second human specter. So yeah obviously if you conversed with Ashley in ME1 you would know she can take care of herself. And if you did play ME1 and talked to her, then you obviously were not paying attention. So Shepard is the dumb one for throwing an asset like her off his team. Ashley doesn't ask him to give her that advice. He tells her what he thinks, and that doesn't mean it's true. Aslo, she lasted 3 years without him, 2 in which mourned the death of her lover, and at the same time she got promoted all the way from Gunnery Chief to Leuitenant Commander. Wouldn't you say that's *taking care of herself*? Wouldn't you say that's *leadership* spelled for you? Doesn't that sound *independent* to you? And out of all that time, you think she doesn't feel *good enough*? Wow 

CAN I GET AN AMEN HERE, or was it not good.....

[BP93]

Miranda's unemployed?

She's just a moocher off the government and the taxpayers.

[krukow]

Who does Miranda work for? Not cerberus. And she has her "fighter" group, but they're not officially working for the alliance.

Ashley has lifetime employment. Also, she has a liscence to kill

[Taboo]

BP93 wrote...

Miranda's unemployed?

She's just a moocher off the government and the taxpayers.

The government in ME is more socialist than anything.

PROBLEM CONSERVATIVES?

But no, she can take care of herself. She doesn't need the government or the taxpayers.

[kalikilic]

does everything have to be who is better than who? we can't just appreciate each character for their differences, which in turn adds to the game? everyone has a favourite. but you don't have to pit them against each other and see who wins. they are not varren. they are our beloved mass effect stars. honor them. don't drag their names through the mud of arguments and fighting.

[BP93]

This thread used to be a sanctuary from all the other BSN chaos but now it has enveloped us too.

When does the Reaper DLC take place in the story? I want to make sure I don't go too far. I'm getting Ash back but then should I stop or continue on into the Quarian/Geth cluster**** of mindless war?

[enayasoul]

One could say Ashley was only allowed to be a spectre because of udina??? He was using her. Thus, why I'll let Ashley shoot Udina. "That son-of-a-****."

Miranda doesn't need a job *be* important. Ashley will *always* be jealous of Miranda.

[Taboo]

I think you can do it whenever you want actually. As soon as it's installed you can head right into the thick of it.

And seeing how it's three hours, you might play it after a really bad portion of the game to get the bad taste out of your mouth.

Why not do it after the coup? You can bring Ashley and everything.

[krukow]

enayasoul wrote...

One could say Ashley was only allowed to be a spectre because of udina??? He was using her. Thus, why I'll let Ashley shoot Udina. "That son-of-a-****."

Miranda doesn't need a job *be* important. Ashley will *always* be jealous of Miranda.

You realize there's a chance Ashley holds Miranda in the same regard as we would hold a member of the taliban.  She was the XO of Cerberus, and we all know what Ash thinks of Cerberus. 

And taboo, I like the Coup buddy.  Deal with it.

Modifié par krukow, 18 août 2012 - 03:18 .

[BP93]

Well that's my intention. If there's supposed to be sexy talkz like its rumored to contain, then I want to have Ash along.

I'll probably bring Javik along for the LOL's as well. Flirtatious talk and trolling... what could go wrong?

[krukow]

BP93 wrote...

Well that's my intention. If there's supposed to be sexy talkz like its rumored to contain, then I want to have Ash along.

I'll probably bring Javik along for the LOL's as well. Flirtatious talk and trolling... what could go wrong?

Nothing, this is the best squad in the game!

IMO:happy:

[sporeaddict101]

Um Ashley is only jealous of Miranda if you cheat on her (if you did then you are a heartless bastar*)
Anyway, would you not be jealous if the man you loved, trusted, and mourned over for two years cheated on you for a (put gently) **** (probably in her eyes) XO of Cerberus?? If you wouldn't be a little jealous then you are not a human being...

[Taboo]

I can't wait to see what Javik has to say about the Leviathan.

Ashley too.

I'm saving her on Virmire for my Sentinel playthrough.

I already have Reave as a bonus power in ME3 so I'm unsure if Kaidan will ever be seen again...

[enayasoul]

sporeaddict101 wrote...

enayasoul wrote...

Not if *I* never take Ashley with me. I could send her off to Hackett where she can do some good and grow as a soldier. Shepard tells Ashley she needs to lead and not *follow* him. Ashley needs to get out there and lead and not look to him to make her feel *good enough*. Miranda doesn't need to be told to be *independent* and lead. She does that already. Miranda does high risk jobs all by herself even when Shepard offered to help. That's why I like Miranda. She's a grown woman who can take care of herself. Miranda is open-minded enough to see the *bigger picture* when needed.

Lol that's what a shallow Shepard or person who hasn't played ME1, and hasn't conversed with Ashley would say. She says herself  that she doesn't need a knight and shining armor to rescue her. She doesn't need a shoulder to cry on. She took care of all her three sisters while growing up. She can handle a gun and take care of herself just fine. If anything your Shepard is the weak one because he is sending off the second, and might I say beautiful, second human specter. So yeah obviously if you conversed with Ashley in ME1 you would know she can take care of herself. And if you did play ME1 and talked to her, then you obviously were not paying attention. So Shepard is the dumb one for throwing an asset like her off his team. Ashley doesn't ask him to give her that advice. He tells her what he thinks, and that doesn't mean it's true. Aslo, she lasted 3 years without him, 2 in which mourned the death of her lover, and at the same time she got promoted all the way from Gunnery Chief to Leuitenant Commander. Wouldn't you say that's *taking care of herself*? Wouldn't you say that's *leadership* spelled for you? Doesn't that sound *independent* to you? And out of all that time, you think she doesn't feel *good enough*? Wow 

CAN I GET AN AMEN HERE, or was it not good.....

You DID NOT JUST SAY THAT!  I played ME1!  I ROMANCED Ashley in Mass EFFECT 1.  Don't even go there!  IF you actually EXPLORED ME3... it's stated exactly what Shepard says!  GO look and find out for yourself!  I know she doesn't need a knight and shining armor.  She doesn't need a man in her life. I KNOW THAT!  

IF you played with the options of paragon and  renegade with Ashley at the scene... after the coup ASHLEY tells *my* Shepard that she's going to go work for HACKETT.   ASHLEY'S IDEA to go with Hackett.  GO find out for yourself.  Ashley still survived in my playthroughs on the coup. I kept her on my team, however.

Trust is VERY important to *my* Shepard. I understand Ashley's character.  I understand why she called him a traitor!  If I am to roleplay *my* Shepard it was clear to him that she doesn't trust him... and all throught ME3 she DIDN"T trust him until the end.  He moved on...

Modifié par enayasoul, 18 août 2012 - 03:31 .

[krukow]

enayasoul wrote...
Trust is VERY important to *my* Shepard. I understand Ashley's character.  I understand why she called him a traitor!  If I am to roleplay *my* Shepard it was clear to him that she doesn't trust him... and all throught ME3 she DIDN"T trust him until the end.  He moved on...

If you do it right, she trusts Shepard at the coup.  That's why she switches to his side even though she's "going to regret this". 

And that line doesn't mean she doesn't trust shep, quite the opposite.  She has every reason not to side with shep.
He's ex cerberus
Cerberus is attacking
Udina is a council member

THE ONLY reason she switches sides is because she trusts Shepard.  She didn't fully understand his time with Cerberus until the end, but she trusts him at the coup if you do it right.

[BP93]

Kaidan has decent powers but he doesn't really contribute much if you're a soldier or infiltrator. Ashley's powers (ex: big guns) are universal. I have Javik and Liara for biotics, Garrus and EDI for tech (overload) so Ash complements James as the second tank soldier class.

Only James has more health and shields than Ash. So with those two, the medigel is all for me because they don't need it.

[survivor_686]

Personally I always take Ashley with me. I realize the importance of the Normandy, as its the spearhead of any major assault and I need the best on my team.

Ashley is an expert soldier, I use her skills to lay down fire and cover me. Thats my Shepard's reasoning and plus she's the only one whom can pull off the Striker Assault rifle. From my Shepard's POV, James is a bit of wild card.

That being said this is Mass Effect and everyone is free to have their own "canon"

[sporeaddict101]

@eneyasoul     If you knew her character so well then you wouldn't be saying that about her. YOU were implying that Ashley needs to be told to lead. YOU implied that she was not a grown woman and that she couldn't take care of herself. Shepard does say that. But by you comparing her to Miranda like that, you imply that Ashley is WEAK. And if by you saying "He had to move on..." that means he moved on with Miranda instead of Ashley, then obviously trust is not so important to YOUR Shepard.
*good enough* *independent* you were IMPLYING that she wasn't those things...

Modifié par sporeaddict101, 18 août 2012 - 03:43 .

[Nightdragon8]

yes so plz "can it" with the miranda vs ash talk plz its gotten annoying.

if you want make a theard "blah vs Blah, and you can have multi like "Garus vs Vega" or whatever, just dont want to hear it. I like both characters for different reasons. Don't need some supre fanboys spouting there nonsesne saying "OMGWUF" she is better than that she farts rainbows talk

[BP93]

survivor_686 wrote...

Personally I always take Ashley with me. I realize the importance of the Normandy, as its the spearhead of any major assault and I need the best on my team.

Ashley is an expert soldier, I use her skills to lay down fire and cover me. Thats my Shepard's reasoning and plus she's the only one whom can pull off the Striker Assault rifle. From my Shepard's POV, James is a bit of wild card.

That being said this is Mass Effect and everyone is free to have their own "canon"

Ash with a Revenant and James with a Revenant or Falcon is pretty amazing. How I wish I could take Ash for the Grissom Academy mission. Of all missions, that is THE one where her firepower is needed most but noooooo... <_<

Part of the reason that mission is so hard is because unless you picked up Javik right away, all you have is a bunch of squishy squadmates and James. I remember I made the mistake of taking Liara on my insanity run for that mission...holy hell. She went down like 10 times, even after I "babied" her and issued her commands about cover and targets. James was a BAMF though.

[sporeaddict101]

Okay I want to talk about Ashley without Mirimancers lurking around. I'm responding to Mirimancers that respond to me. I will stop it now.I wanna talk about Ashley topics. So can you Mirimancers go talk about Miranda in your own thread now? I've done my defending...

[krukow]

Liara is only useful if you play as a biotic. Then you can combo to your heart's delight.

I actually enjoy that a lot when I play biotic.

[sporeaddict101]

You can't take Ashley to Grissom? I thought you could go on that mission anytime?

[BP93]

krukow wrote...

Liara is only useful if you play as a biotic. Then you can combo to your heart's delight.

I actually enjoy that a lot when I play biotic.

True but on my adept run I always made sure I had the 200% cooldown, so I often forgot about Liara's powers because I was just setting off so many of my own explosions.