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[The fool you should have eaten]

Greetings Ashley thread,

I have questions that I do not think could be better answered elsewhere, so I will ask the people here. 

*Please note that I am not attempting to flame you guys, I simply do not understand this and would like input.

Ok.  Why is Ashley so pitted against Cerberus?

Many of the people in it are from the alliance, and the organization was alliance to begin with.  They stand for humanity, and hate aliens.  These are both things that she would side with them on, and are defining to Cerberus itself.  Yes, their methods are insane.  And yes, for some reason they start to reaperize their troops in ME3, but we didn't see any signs of the second thing in ME2, when we first learn how much she hates/mistrusts Cerberus, and in turn Shepard.

Is she pretending that the Alliance is clean?  Because (though I will willingly admit I am no expert in this area) if we looked hard enough, I am certain that the Alliance has some dirt on it too.  After all they did authorize the black ops that became cerberus.

Next.  Why is she so angry at Shepard?  No matter what you do, if you tell the Illusive man off every time you see him and blow the base away (ME2), she is still bitter and angry at you for... something.  Keep in mind that this is the guy who is able to talk indoctrinated people into shooting themselves, more than once.  He is good at getting his point accross, but when it comes to her, it doesn't seem to matter what you say, she is still super angry.
Note: I may or may not have played through the Horizon mission one too many times
Ok, I think that that is all.  Any feedback would be welcomed.  Thanks!

Modifié par The fool you should have eaten, 20 août 2012 - 08:25 .

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[krukow]

The fool you should have eaten wrote...

Greetings Ashley thread,

I have questions that I do not think could be better answered elsewhere, so I will ask the people here. 

*Please note that I am not attempting to flame you guys, I simply do not understand this and would like input.

Ok.  Why is Ashley so pitted against Cerberus?

Many of the people in it are from the alliance, and the organization was alliance to begin with.  They stand for humanity, and hate aliens.  These are both things that she would side with them on, and are defining to Cerberus itself.  Yes, their methods are insane.  And yes, for some reason they start to reaperize their troops in ME3, but we didn't see any signs of the second thing in ME2, when we first learn how much she hates/mistrusts Cerberus, and in turn Shepard.

Is she pretending that the Alliance is clean?  Because (though I will willingly admit I am no expert in this area) if we looked hard enough, I am certain that the Alliance has some dirt on it too.  After all they did authorize the black ops that became cerberus.

Next.  Why is she so angry at Shepard?  No matter what you do, if you tell the Illusive man off every time you see him and blow the base away (ME2), she is still bitter and angry at you for... something.  Keep in mind that this is the guy who is able to talk indoctrinated people into shooting themselves, more than once.  He is good at getting his point accross, but when it comes to her, it doesn't seem to matter what you say, she is still super angry.
Note: I may or may not have played through the Horizon mission one too many times
Ok, I think that that is all.  Any feedback would be welcomed.  Thanks!

The experimented with huskes.  They assassinated an admiral.  They killed Shepard's squad on Akuze (if you have that background).  They did terrible experiments you see first-hand if you do the side-quests.

THEY'RE FREAKING TERRORISTS.

Ashley's the only one who's right about them from the begining (Kaidan too actually).  And if you do it right, she trusts you pretty quickly during the coup.  If you go renegade and act the douche, she doesn't.

[FahRENheit06]

Made Nightwing wrote...

The story begins with an operation to take down a Cerberus cruiser, which succeeds with casualties. After that, Ash gets drafted into an Alliance plan to take down Cerberus. It's essentially a bit of backstory for Ashley's eventual appearance at the start of ME3, which will explain her suspicion and hyper-alertness regarding them at the beginning. In essence, explaining her transformation from the more easy going Gunnery Chief of ME1 into the cold Razor we see later.

Interesting, interesting. Certainly a niche that desperately needs to be filled in Ashley WIlliams' history, since in-game she never really demosntrates much outward leadership ability despite being a Lieutenant Commander and eventual Spectre. I see some parallels in that description to Jacob Taylor's service record, though Ash would never turncoat the Alliance no matter what, methinks.

Kind of a double-edged sword in a way, since if she's capable of so much, Ash is pretty wasted holed up in the Starboard Observation Deck for half the game.

Whew, back from a little weekend mini-vacation. I missed my internets

- Ren

[The fool you should have eaten]

krukow wrote...

The fool you should have eaten wrote...

Greetings Ashley thread,

I have questions that I do not think could be better answered elsewhere, so I will ask the people here. 

*Please note that I am not attempting to flame you guys, I simply do not understand this and would like input.

Ok.  Why is Ashley so pitted against Cerberus?

Many of the people in it are from the alliance, and the organization was alliance to begin with.  They stand for humanity, and hate aliens.  These are both things that she would side with them on, and are defining to Cerberus itself.  Yes, their methods are insane.  And yes, for some reason they start to reaperize their troops in ME3, but we didn't see any signs of the second thing in ME2, when we first learn how much she hates/mistrusts Cerberus, and in turn Shepard.

Is she pretending that the Alliance is clean?  Because (though I will willingly admit I am no expert in this area) if we looked hard enough, I am certain that the Alliance has some dirt on it too.  After all they did authorize the black ops that became cerberus.

Next.  Why is she so angry at Shepard?  No matter what you do, if you tell the Illusive man off every time you see him and blow the base away (ME2), she is still bitter and angry at you for... something.  Keep in mind that this is the guy who is able to talk indoctrinated people into shooting themselves, more than once.  He is good at getting his point accross, but when it comes to her, it doesn't seem to matter what you say, she is still super angry.
Note: I may or may not have played through the Horizon mission one too many times
Ok, I think that that is all.  Any feedback would be welcomed.  Thanks!

The experimented with huskes.  They assassinated an admiral.  They killed Shepard's squad on Akuze (if you have that background).  They did terrible experiments you see first-hand if you do the side-quests.

THEY'RE FREAKING TERRORISTS.

Ashley's the only one who's right about them from the begining (Kaidan too actually).  And if you do it right, she trusts you pretty quickly during the coup.  If you go renegade and act the douche, she doesn't.

That's very true.  But when ME2 started, I barely even remembered the name Cerberus.  There are apparently crazy people all over the galaxy given the number of side missions like the cerberus one. 

You did address question 1 quite well, but 2 still lingers.  There is a diologue option on Horizon that goes something like, "I was dead, Ash.  Cerberus spent the past two years rebuilding me."  To which we recieve a cold shoulder because we are "with" them now.  This happens even to people who romanced Ashley in the first game (I think).  What could Shepard possibly do?  The other squadies who are aliens and potentially on the recieving end of said terrorism willingly accept him back and help him.  I cannot grasp this random generation of resentment in her specifically.

I guess the point that I was making in comparing her ideals and Cerberus's is not that she would advocate joining them, because, yes, they are terrorists, but rather that she would feel even less anger towards Shepard for being "with" them than the others like Wrex, Garrus, Tali, and Liara who would (should) all be repulsed by his association with a violently anti-alien group, but aren't.

Does that make more sense?  I guess that I worded that poorly the first time.

...  I think that I use commas too much.

[survivor_686]

The fool you should have eaten wrote...

Greetings Ashley thread,

I have questions that I do not think could be better answered elsewhere, so I will ask the people here. 

*Please note that I am not attempting to flame you guys, I simply do not understand this and would like input.

Ok.  Why is Ashley so pitted against Cerberus?

Many of the people in it are from the alliance, and the organization was alliance to begin with.  They stand for humanity, and hate aliens.  These are both things that she would side with them on, and are defining to Cerberus itself.  Yes, their methods are insane.  And yes, for some reason they start to reaperize their troops in ME3, but we didn't see any signs of the second thing in ME2, when we first learn how much she hates/mistrusts Cerberus, and in turn Shepard.

Is she pretending that the Alliance is clean?  Because (though I will willingly admit I am no expert in this area) if we looked hard enough, I am certain that the Alliance has some dirt on it too.  After all they did authorize the black ops that became cerberus.

Next.  Why is she so angry at Shepard?  No matter what you do, if you tell the Illusive man off every time you see him and blow the base away (ME2), she is still bitter and angry at you for... something.  Keep in mind that this is the guy who is able to talk indoctrinated people into shooting themselves, more than once.  He is good at getting his point accross, but when it comes to her, it doesn't seem to matter what you say, she is still super angry.
Note: I may or may not have played through the Horizon mission one too many times
Ok, I think that that is all.  Any feedback would be welcomed.  Thanks!

Ashley is dyed in the wool Alliance Marine. She views and strongly believes that the Systems Alliance acts and is for humanity best interests. While she certainly does come off a bit cynical regarding the political relations with other aliens, this can be put down to a political viewpoint. However, Ashley has limited her sucpicions to Council races and is quite friendly with non-Council races. Ashley quite simply believes that humanity should be prepared for the day when it has to stand on its own...but certainly not to cast the first stone.

Cerberus on the other hand, is a private organization. It may have swayed some black-ops teams to its side, but it was started by TIM, a private individual and former mercenary. Cerberus, as seen in ME1, claims to act in humanity's best interests, yet has no qualms about using humans as lab rats (without their permission).  This can be seen when it renders an entire colony into husks just to see what happens, lures Alliance marines into a Thresher Maw trap and experimented on the survivor, assasinated an Alliance Admiral whom conducted an investigation, detonated mass drives over colonies (see the books) and a whole host of amoral actions.

I suppose Cerberus could be likened to the intergalactic equivalent of al-Qaeda. An organization that claims to act in the defence of one group whilst at the same time having no qualms about whether it hurts that same group.

Ashley dislikes Cerberus based on the fact that from what she has seen, they are a self-righteous band of zeolats whom have besmirched humanity's name and yet insist that they're working for humanity's best interest. After all doesn't TIM say "Cerberus is Humanity".

With regards to Ashley's hostility on Horizon. Imagine if you've spent the last two years mourning your lover, only to find that they were alive, hadn't contacted you and were now working with a terrorist organization? How pissed would you be?

Modifié par survivor_686, 20 août 2012 - 09:28 .

[ashlover mark 2]

The fool you should have eaten wrote...

Greetings Ashley thread,

I have questions that I do not think could be better answered elsewhere, so I will ask the people here. 

*Please note that I am not attempting to flame you guys, I simply do not understand this and would like input.

Ok.  Why is Ashley so pitted against Cerberus?

Many of the people in it are from the alliance, and the organization was alliance to begin with.  They stand for humanity, and hate aliens.  These are both things that she would side with them on, and are defining to Cerberus itself.  Yes, their methods are insane.  And yes, for some reason they start to reaperize their troops in ME3, but we didn't see any signs of the second thing in ME2, when we first learn how much she hates/mistrusts Cerberus, and in turn Shepard.

Is she pretending that the Alliance is clean?  Because (though I will willingly admit I am no expert in this area) if we looked hard enough, I am certain that the Alliance has some dirt on it too.  After all they did authorize the black ops that became cerberus.

Next.  Why is she so angry at Shepard?  No matter what you do, if you tell the Illusive man off every time you see him and blow the base away (ME2), she is still bitter and angry at you for... something.  Keep in mind that this is the guy who is able to talk indoctrinated people into shooting themselves, more than once.  He is good at getting his point accross, but when it comes to her, it doesn't seem to matter what you say, she is still super angry.
Note: I may or may not have played through the Horizon mission one too many times
Ok, I think that that is all.  Any feedback would be welcomed.  Thanks!

1.ceberus is evil, just as dirty as the reapers. they do not stand for humanity. they stand for a small pocket of extreme members of the human population. ash dose not agree with this ideal. she also dose not hate aliens. therefore she dose not agree with that ideal either ( if ceberus dose hate aliens).cerberus kills alliance personnel and alliance citizens they also disrupt alliance operations and make humans look bad in the eyes of aliens.they also tried to kill her and shepard and her friends in ME1 numerous times. would you like an organzation that tried to kill you?

2.the alliance maybe dirty, but from what information we have on the alliance it dosent seem to sanction extremes. yes cerberus was an alliance black op. but they went rougue from the alliance, why do you think they did that?

3.ashley is upset with shepard because she hates cerberus.they are evil. he pops in out of the blue and starts singing their praises offers no detailed explantions as to why hes working with them. from ashleys mind shepards either betrayed the alliance of his own accord which sadly makes him her enemy now (yes the alliance and cerberus are officialy enimies) or cerberus did something to shepard and are controlling him (which miranda the cerberus operative freely says she would have done to you had TIM not overruled her)

lastly if you sit down and talk to ash and you explain yourself with paragon responses you do regain ashs trust and during the coup she belives you and turns on udina, even shooting him and killing him herself.

hope this helps.

Modifié par ashlover mark 2, 20 août 2012 - 09:34 .

[krukow]

Also, Ashley didn't realize that Shepard was dead. You never actually say that, and besides, given how impossible ressurection is, it's not like she would have believed him. It's why the Cronos mission is so important if she's your LI. She realizes just what happened over those two years.

However, at Horizon, all she knows is that she thought shep was dead, he wasn't, he's now apparently a terrorist, and he never tried to contact her.

I've often complained that you can't tell her you were unable to contact her because nobody would tell you where she was (not even anderson). Cuz the plot says so apparently...

[The fool you should have eaten]

Remember that her response must be taken in consideration of the other Squadmates who have no such behavior.

I get that the idea of losing someone for two years and then them popping up again would be bad, BUT, if you remember at the beginning of ME2 you have the option to ask about all of your old crew and TIM tells you about any of them... Except for her. Because her location is unknown and even he can't find out where she is. So how was Shep supposed to contact her? She was on duty on a top secret operation. There is no way that she could get open coms to an unknown "number" for lack of a better term.

Still kind of bothered by horizon, but I guess that I will get over it.

[ashlover mark 2]

The fool you should have eaten wrote...

Remember that her response must be taken in consideration of the other Squadmates who have no such behavior.

I get that the idea of losing someone for two years and then them popping up again would be bad, BUT, if you remember at the beginning of ME2 you have the option to ask about all of your old crew and TIM tells you about any of them... Except for her. Because her location is unknown and even he can't find out where she is. So how was Shep supposed to contact her? She was on duty on a top secret operation. There is no way that she could get open coms to an unknown "number" for lack of a better term.

Still kind of bothered by horizon, but I guess that I will get over it.

i think your focusing on the wrong things. ash asks why you didnt contact her before,yea.but she is not really upset about that. shes upset that your with cerberus. that is where the bulk of her anger and mistrust comes from during horizon.

Modifié par ashlover mark 2, 20 août 2012 - 09:48 .

[FahRENheit06]

Horizon is pretty much the figurative death of the Virmire Survivor since Ash/Kaidan are just so callous and unreasonable, especially for anyone who didn't play ME1.

From Ashley's perspective, she doesn't know what to believe when she meets Shepard on Horizon. Since "being brought back from the dead" is pretty much considered impossible, her only rational explanation is that Shepard was injured then started working for Cerberus (since that Alliance company line was in fact fed to her when she took up the colony posting). Most of her anger is spurred on by feeling abandoned and alone for two years, and once she'd finally buried all the hurt, here comes Shepard parading back in Cerberus orange acting like nothing had happened. You're basically asking for emotions to be subjected to rational logic.

- Ren

[The fool you should have eaten]

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

The fool you should have eaten wrote...

Remember that her response must be taken in consideration of the other Squadmates who have no such behavior.

I get that the idea of losing someone for two years and then them popping up again would be bad, BUT, if you remember at the beginning of ME2 you have the option to ask about all of your old crew and TIM tells you about any of them... Except for her. Because her location is unknown and even he can't find out where she is. So how was Shep supposed to contact her? She was on duty on a top secret operation. There is no way that she could get open coms to an unknown "number" for lack of a better term.

Still kind of bothered by horizon, but I guess that I will get over it.

i think your focusing on the wrong things. ash asks why you didnt contact her before,yea.but she is not really upset about that. shes upset that your with cerberus.

Sorry, I was addressing another point.  What I hav been trying to say is that no one else was even remotely bothered by the fact that you are with Cerberus, at least for more than a moment.

[ashlover mark 2]

hmmm i wouldnt say its the death of ashleys charecter i think it contiunes to make her interesting. their are plenty of people who can see where shes comeing from and dont hold it against her.

they only people who do are the ones who think

A) shepards always right and no charecter should question him.

B)that cerberus is actually good and helping shepard.

[FahRENheit06]

The fool you should have eaten wrote...

Sorry, I was addressing another point. What I hav been trying to say is that no one else was even remotely bothered by the fact that you are with Cerberus, at least for more than a moment.

Tali was bothered quite a bit. Garrus was less so. Liara was, but only if you prod her during that conversation on Ilium where she's sorry that she gave Shepard's body to Cerberus because she couldn't let him/her go.

Ash was just the only ME1 squadmate who wasn't willing to overlook what Cerberus had done.

[scotiej]

FahRENheit06 wrote...

Horizon is pretty much the figurative death of the Virmire Survivor since Ash/Kaidan are just so callous and unreasonable, especially for anyone who didn't play ME1.

From Ashley's perspective, she doesn't know what to believe when she meets Shepard on Horizon. Since "being brought back from the dead" is pretty much considered impossible, her only rational explanation is that Shepard was injured then started working for Cerberus (since that Alliance company line was in fact fed to her when she took up the colony posting). Most of her anger is spurred on by feeling abandoned and alone for two years, and once she'd finally buried all the hurt, here comes Shepard parading back in Cerberus orange acting like nothing had happened. You're basically asking for emotions to be subjected to rational logic.

- Ren

Agreed.

[ashlover mark 2]

The fool you should have eaten wrote...

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

The fool you should have eaten wrote...

Remember that her response must be taken in consideration of the other Squadmates who have no such behavior.

I get that the idea of losing someone for two years and then them popping up again would be bad, BUT, if you remember at the beginning of ME2 you have the option to ask about all of your old crew and TIM tells you about any of them... Except for her. Because her location is unknown and even he can't find out where she is. So how was Shep supposed to contact her? She was on duty on a top secret operation. There is no way that she could get open coms to an unknown "number" for lack of a better term.

Still kind of bothered by horizon, but I guess that I will get over it.

i think your focusing on the wrong things. ash asks why you didnt contact her before,yea.but she is not really upset about that. shes upset that your with cerberus.

Sorry, I was addressing another point.  What I hav been trying to say is that no one else was even remotely bothered by the fact that you are with Cerberus, at least for more than a moment.

ah okay sorry for the misunderstanding then. but yea all the former squad do show distaste at working with cerberus.

tali,garrus, and liara all mention stuff about it.

also bothers anderson who witholds information about ashs where abouts because hes not sure if he can trust shepard. also bothers the council who even hint a threat at shepard.

Modifié par ashlover mark 2, 20 août 2012 - 10:14 .

[DWH1982]

Anyone who doesn't understand why Ash hates Cerberus needs to play ME1.

Also, I maintain that the signs were there in ME2. Take the time to read the Shadow Broker documents on Cerberus after LoTSB. They rig elections, overthrow governments, poison people, kidnap babies, and they've assassinated at least one member of the Alliance Parliament - as well as the frigging POPE.

What I don't understand is how anyone can think that Cerberus is anything but evil after looking at that list of their activities. They're more or less doing their best to undermine everything that Shepard - at least my Shepard - is fighting for.

[BP93]

While I do agree that Cerberus is evil, you should've been able to play as a pro-Cerberus Shepard if you established him that way in ME2.

But alas, we saw how little our choices actually mattered.

[DWH1982]

It would have been nice, but I imagine it would have been the equivilent of making two games.

Shepard staying with Cerberus would have meant entirely different missions.

Kind of like what they would have had to do if they gave you the option of going back to the Alliance in ME2.

Modifié par DWH1982, 21 août 2012 - 12:44 .

[DWH1982]

My roommate is playing the ME trilogy for the first time. He made it to ME2, and I overheard him freeing Jack from Purgatory the other day.

Makes me nostalgic. I was thinking about it, and I decided that I enjoy ME2 more than the other games in the trilogy. I hate the fact that Ash is limited to one unpleasant appearance, I wish they had kept the Mako, and I think that ME1 had a stronger central story, but ME2, I think, did so many things "just right" in terms of immersion, gameplay, and even the music.

I only wish Ash had gotten her own DLC, like Liara...

EDIT: Kinda wish I could warn Tom about how it all ends, but I don't want to spoil things for him...

Modifié par DWH1982, 21 août 2012 - 02:06 .

[krukow]

Tell him to side with the quarians, and one of the endings is perfectly palatable...

[kalikilic]

ExorioN PL wrote...


Only two pics of Ash?
Here's third.


PS. That crashed ship begs for dialogue.

Ashley: (calm, cool and collected) You steal a shuttle that you can't fly? And is that an attempt at running? With that busted leg and head of yours? Boy this is going to be good.

Cerberus Trooper:  (gasping and looking back at Ashley as he approaches a distance of 10ft. from her.)

Ashley: (slowly begins to walk in the direction of the trooper, stepping at the side of small splashes of blood on the ground) Look at this. You're leaving me a trail of breadcrumbs, Hansel. Ran out of medigel over there?

Trooper: (attempting to run but slows down)

Ashley: (she notices that the trooper never checked his omni-tool for medigel) Not even equipped with it? Surely the illusive bastard has some sort of...oh what is the word I'm looking for here...heart...to have medigel as standard gear on his "elite" troopers. Unless your purpose is for something else.

Trooper: (bellows and falls to his knees. he looks around to Ashley.)

Ashley: (sly smile, about 15ft away)

Trooper: (begins to crawl a distance of about 4ft until he hears a very near tap. He stops, slowly turns his head and sees Ashley right behind him, a distance of 1/2ft away.)

Ashley: (sighs) Purpose. You know, I've experienced what Cerberus does first hand to the world. How they gnaw at humanity's soft preserved nature, leaving black, disgusting spots wherever they go. How he does it is beyond me. (she kicks the trooper so that he falls flat on his stomach and then stomps her foot on the back of his leg where he was injured)

Trooper: (screams)

Ashley: (rests her right hand on her pistol, which was still in the holster) How he controls you.; how you let him. how even after you stomach all the sickening "missions" he has you carry out...even after doing it, how you cannot understand that you're just his tool. Your "trusted" "loyalist" illusive man, is nothing more than a insane, power-hungry, fool who's given the means to "create" tools like yourself, just for his purpose, not for humanity's interest. Dogs like you don't matter to the illusive man. Once you fulfill his purpose, he's finished with you.

Trooper:...

Ashley: You've probably been told that you were selected by the illusive man because of some remarkable quality that you yourself did not even know you possessed. You held a certain quality that none else had. And a fortune was spent on you. Just to really blow up your head. Make you feel proud. Make you feel nice. Just to make you feel as though every word was true. But the truth is...(she kicks him in the side to roll him onto his back) You were just a minor detail in what his new flavour of the month was. Kidnapping, Assassination, Child Abuse. You were just a spoon to feed his ego. (she leans over and downward to get closer to the trooper's face and to look directly into his eyes.)

Trooper: (looks at Ashley, with a scared, laboured look on his face)

Ashley: (removes pistol from holster) How long before the missions become fewer and fewer? How long before someone else comes along who gets the job done faster and better than you? How long before you're replaced? Do you think he'll just turn you loose? Just let you go like a stray dog?

Trooper: (scared, low voice) The...He...he still needs me.

Ashley: He still needs you? Yet here we are in such circumstances anyway. (moves away from him and returns to a standing position, still looking at the trooper on the ground.) A stray dog on the loose, scrambling away at the first sign of trouble. But it's nice to know that you're valuable...or you're carrying something valuable...You know a dog would never know that you're going to put him down. It would never see it coming, especially if it loves you alot.

Trooper: (groans) Well...just...k-kill me now..the-n

Ashley: Oh no. Of course not. If you would stand where i am standing, you would see it how i do. This false belief in fake virtues that the illusive man spouts to you from the get-go. Ridiculous! The illusive man follows no virtues because to him, he is his own God. He needs no one. And the only purpose he'd ever fulfill is the one he creates in order to proliferate himself.

Trooper: That's not true! (cough)

Ashley: (angry look on her face now) However the illusive man trained dumb animals like you is beyond me. I can't even convince you of the plain simple truth which is just staring you in the face! (angry look on her face turns back to calm and cool) But if you're a tool, then you can still be of use to me...

Trooper: Whaaa...

Ashley: What exactly were you fetching for the illusive man? What was your purpose coming here?

Trooper: Just kill me...i'll never talk...

Ashley: (returns her gun to the holster) I'm sorry but, you won't be dying today. I know, every dog has his day. But it is just unfortunate for you that today, is not your day.

Modifié par kalikilic, 21 août 2012 - 02:34 .

[survivor_686]

^ That is GOOD!

[survivor_686]

The fool you should have eaten wrote...

Remember that her response must be taken in consideration of the other Squadmates who have no such behavior.

I get that the idea of losing someone for two years and then them popping up again would be bad, BUT, if you remember at the beginning of ME2 you have the option to ask about all of your old crew and TIM tells you about any of them... Except for her. Because her location is unknown and even he can't find out where she is. So how was Shep supposed to contact her? She was on duty on a top secret operation. There is no way that she could get open coms to an unknown "number" for lack of a better term.

Still kind of bothered by horizon, but I guess that I will get over it.

Take into consideration that Ashley is a true-blooded Alliance soldier. To her Cerberus would be the worst kind of enemy, a sort of traitor if you will.

The other species may just view Cerberus as a bunch of freaks, but most Alliance soldiers would probably hate Cerberus based on the fact that they're viewed as traitors (Jacob does note that most Alliance personnellhate Cerberus on principle)

[redbaron76]

Ashley and other alliance soldiers do not hate cerberus. They do not trust cerberus because they are human bigots more or less. Or maybe they do. In my opinion it is not realy hate just lot of mistrust towards cerberus and cerberus goals. After all most humans fear unknown.