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Lt. Commander Ashley Williams thread: "Don't 'Ash' me!" We're Back Baby!


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 You're one step in the right direction... Do you love red and white - do you!? Love it enough to support Arsenal in the match today!? :whistle:
*snip*

Yeah sure, I´ll send some inspiring thoughts to Arsenal.  :)

P.S. why does a Scotsman support an English team?

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Is this about me?Image IPB And whats it about? Do I want to know?Image IPB

It's always about you B)

And I think you wanna know, since you are a very curious woman. :whistle:

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Well if BE supports Arsenal, then so do I lolImage IPB

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I support Arsenal and Glasgow Rangers. Believe it or not, most people in Scotland support English teams 'cause the prem has better players and football. The prem is British to me, some of the best players are welsh actually. Also, my dinner is out and the match is on - talk about Commander Williams... =P

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BadExamp1e wrote...

I support Arsenal and Glasgow Rangers. Believe it or not, most people in Scotland support English teams 'cause the prem has better players and football. The prem is British to me, some of the best players are welsh actually. Also, my dinner is out and the match is on - talk about Commander Williams... =P


So it's pretty much like in Germany. I do support "Bayern München", despite the fact I'm born in Dresden and should support "Dynamo Dresden" instead. But my team is just in the 2. Bundesliga (2nd league) and plays mediocre football, while Bayern München usually is in the top three of the 1st league.

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Dragon_Claw wrote...

Is it one of those hentai dating games?!?

:innocent:


"Sexy beach - ball game"?
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Rudy: compared to later Garrus?


How much later? There is no progress inside ME1, it is only presumed (assumed or whatever) that their relations improved, since Garrus reaction in ME2 was more than just reserved, even given circumstances, where he was alone, surrounded, though Shepard was dead and so on.

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Yeah, ME1 Garrus felt young - like someone between his 20 and 25. Does anyone know how old he truly is?
Take in mind not every military position results in badassery ;) I'm sure Garrus had only basic training at 15 before deciding for a career as cop for C-Sec. He was already in charge with his own case, which gives me the idea he already climbed the ladder a bit - and he reported directly to Executor Pallin. Maybe he's in his early thirties, like Shepard.


Disagree.
From what I've gather from Codex, each turian serve his term, that's 15 years. This alone gives 30. Also, IIRC, in dialogues with him on SR1 he mentions cases which happened years before, so he is older than that.

As for his position within C-Sec it's hard to say, there is not enough info on C-Sec at all - we don't know their organisation table, ToE, roster, anything. We know they exist and there is executor and regular cops.

I'd say at first Garrus served as ordinary patrolman, he said this himself - his first post was in Presidium. Apparently after some "evaluation period" he was transfer to another area and, apparently moved to certain department.

His assignment on Saren's case may mean several things. First, Garrus' appointment was totally random - he could be first free LEO which caught his superior eye. Second, Garrus' actual member of certain department, but what kind of department that could be, homicide? "Extreme importance"? That's generally different league and if he is from there, well, he is a WA-A-A-A-AY higher than Shepard. Third, Garrus is actual member of certain department, but his predisposition toward "red tape" is well known as well as little bit "quick temper", so he could be chosen on purpose, either to show "we used our best officer" or to use him as scapegoat, just in case, regardless of his father's position. That's my opinion based on my experience and logical point of view. What was bioware logic and point of view - I don't know.

Although I don't think he is some ordinary badge bearer, I think he was chosen randomly. He could be actual member of any department, since he knows Chellic and apparently they are equal and if Chellic from "organized crime" department, well, Garrus could serve there before and take some relatively equal position. But again, I don't have enough data for analys, all that "saren's case" are pure assumption.

As for facts we also have, IIRC Garrus was saying something about serving on ship and being one of the best HtH fighters, and he known some guys at C-Sec headquarters where Bailey served. Given their actual size given by Pallin in ME1 as 300K, it is a WAY too big, unless Garrus has perfect memory and recalls each and every person he served with. Because I can't remember all guys from my batallion and there were less than thousand of us.


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Still - Garrus feels more like a civilian than a soldier in ME1. Like a cop.


Cops ARE civilian.

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In ME2 things change and in ME3 is a die hard soldier. Badass like hell and most likely the trusted lieutenant of Shepard if Ash is not around. But it has been a long way to that point - and he took a rocket in the face for that ^^


He would be 2IC even if Ash was around. He is 2IC even with Kaidan around. Because he was there. And they weren't. That's why I actually like him and that "you and Cerberus" nonsense gives me allergic reaction.

But I digress. This is one of moments I dislike in ME1 - lack of visual progress among non-romanced characters. That's true for Kaidan and Ashley and apparently for Liara, because I don't know how it is possible not to romance her, she just fcuking unavoidable!Image IPB
Simply put, that was present in DA:O - if character's disposition toward PC grows up, their tone changes as well, at least at random "pick" or "do something" commands. I admit, hearing Alistair's "my love" for male warden was a way off, but I'm speaking about indication.

In ME2, even with fact that Shepard was considered dead, former team-mates reaction suggests much more "close-knit" relations than they were presented in ME1. So if we assume that ME2 beginning=M1 ending, it's safe to assume that Garrus reserved behavior was easily explained via several reasons:
- Main suspect is his "compatrio", and not ordinary one, but spectre and quite famous.
- Past conflict between humans and turians and possible animosity.
- His own actions - it's not that common for police officer to quit his job in the middle of investigation. If he quit, it wasn't stated clearly, that could be still considered his service assignment, "business trip", "temporarly transfer" or something like that; of course he could always lay off his badge, but when he could do that - apparently when he was visiting Dr. Michel he still was member of the force and I took him in team right away (in "kanone"Image IPB playthrough). Of coruse he could write report from Normandy.
- Basic careful approach, to evaluate person and team he is working with first. It wasn't presented in any way in ME1 but assumed in ME3 that "they all were friends".
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Arsenal and Ashley FTW!!!!

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Well if BE supports Arsenal, then so do I lolImage IPB


I'll have to buy you a shirt then.... the home, red and white? B)

And Arsenal won 2nil.... Dragon did the trick. I'm gonna run to him everytime they play now for luck. :whistle:

Ash is happy about the result:

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@Rudy: well, if Garrus is your XO, I'm fine with that. In my universe, it's more like that:

ME1: XO - Presley
Right hand - Ashley

ME2: XO - Miranda
Right hand - Garrus

ME3: XO - Ashley
Right hand - Ashley

I just wished BW would have allowed to appoint a squadmate / crewmember to the role of a XO. Usually, the XO remains on board if the CO is leaving or vice versa. Then again - we all know Star Trek the original series and the CO, the XO and the CMO are usually leaving the ship as a team.
Not really following military standards 'though Star Trek had a more realistic vision of a military organization than Mass Effect.

We had that talk before. The military organization in ME doesn't make any sense. It's such a huge mess it hurts trying to fix it.

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Shepard: What are you doing, Ash?
Ashley: I'm just checking some game results. Arsenal won their away game at Anfield against Liverpool with 0-2. Apparantly we won the battle in the stands aswell as the one on the pitch.
Shepard: That's great news. 
Ashley: Indeed!

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CptData wrote...

@Rudy: well, if Garrus is your XO, I'm fine with that. In my universe, it's more like that:

ME1: XO - Presley
Right hand - Ashley

ME2: XO - Miranda
Right hand - Garrus

ME3: XO - Ashley
Right hand - Ashley


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CptData wrote...

I just wished BW would have allowed to appoint a squadmate / crewmember to the role of a XO.


For what purpose, I wonder? Just to place some medals/badges and to please inner Napoleon?
Such action should have direct consequences and impact.

And if we discuss that, why not "appoint" "BFF" position? Since my Shepards' LI not present on Normandy for obvious reasons, guess who was holding name plaque?
I DON'T WANT THAT CHARACTER HOLDING NAME PLAQUE!


CptData wrote...

Usually, the XO remains on board if the CO is leaving or vice versa. Then again - we all know Star Trek the original series and the CO, the XO and the CMO are usually leaving the ship as a team.
Not really following military standards 'though Star Trek had a more realistic vision of a military organization than Mass Effect.


In ME3 exactly "XO" duties, most of them, could be relied much to EDI, she can easily relief anyone from issuing most day-to-day orders and monitoring current conditions and supplies. Quantum computers are fast, or so I herd.

As for more or less "oh no, 1 is down! this is 2, taking command, I say again, this is 2, taking command" that's another story. Especially given "complicated" existing hierarchy in Alliance. Since apparently nobody gives a fcuk, why should I?


CptData wrote...

We had that talk before. The military organization in ME doesn't make any sense. It's such a huge mess it hurts trying to fix it.


Not as much if somebody weren't so stubborn and agreed to ignore ME3 (and partially ME2 and ME1) nonsense completely. But no, "Ash is special, she uber-hyper-super-duper-orbital-zonder-jagd-kommando-geschwader-zerstorer". Image IPBImage IPB

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What exactly is "facepalmey" ;)
I just want Ash to be my Shepard's right hand in every situation. Well, in my headcanon she's the next CO of the Normandy after Shepard and I love to play with that reality. Of course, she better takes some classes to be a capable commander ...

You're still butthurt about the 5-ranks-jumped promotion of Ash, right? *g*

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CptData wrote...

What exactly is "facepalmey" ;)


DOUBLE facepalmey.


CptData wrote...

I just want Ash to be my Shepard's right hand in every situation.


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CptData wrote...

Well, in my headcanon she's the next CO of the Normandy after Shepard and I love to play with that reality. Of course, she better takes some classes to be a capable commander ...


"classes". How bout several years in academy, and then several years of service in lower ranks to determine hear real level first. Of course she WILL proves herself worthy in YOUR reality and will give orders to Hackett somewhere near 2187, just because she not just some officer, she slept with Shepard. Twice! Obviously this is sign of great strategic and tactical gift! Image IPB


CptData wrote...

You're still butthurt about the 5-ranks-jumped promotion of Ash, right? *g*


I respect you too much to answer what I really want to, so I tell you this: Rommel, while being supplied at tertiary grade (somewhere between Finns and Hungarians) chased tommies all over Africa with his bath towel to stop only to apply sun block! Do you think he was promoted 5 ranks in six months? And don't duck away by telling me it's bad topic in Germany.

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You know what I mean.

Let's ignore the 5-rank-jump for a while and check out Ash in ME1: does she feel like someone that could become a capable commander one day?
I can see your issues there, but given the fact, that:

- Garrus, a cop that has thing for "breaking the rules" gets promoted that sky-high several long-year Generals salute to him and call him "Sir"? Next time someone will make him to a Primarch O.o

- Liara, a scientist, becomes the galaxy's most powerful person?

- Tali, a young Quarian that spent most of her adult life (so far) on board of the Normandy, suddenly got promoted to an Admiral?

Uhh ... think huge leaps in careers are quite common in ME.

Ashley's promotion doesn't feel odd here. Who knows what made her to a LC.
I keep it that way.

By the way: Hackett is not that old. Isn't he in his fifties or something? For one that started as a Serviceman 3rd grade, his career skyrocketed to Fleet Admiral within 30 - 35 years of service. That's as unlikely as Ashley's career and still you accept the lore ...

Just saying ;)

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Ashley´s face in panel 6.   :lol:

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^ lol. Who's doing that stuff?

Hey, I should start doing my dialogues that way ... ^^

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O.o...how anyone thinks that they'd bring in some noob to be commander of the Normandy after Shepard and not hand it to Ashley is beyond me...Time is not always equivalent to experience and service. I could spend 8 hours on the battlefield and just hide behind a wall while someone else spends 2 hours on the battlefield and captures the enemy's base. My 8 hours just goes to show that that's how much time I've wasted. The way I see it. Ashley's been with Shepard throughout ME1. She was right at his side when they had to face Sovereign, Saren and the heretic geth. Now in ME3 she's once again right at his side when facing the biggest threat the galaxy has ever seen. She's been with him on so many missions, made and aided Shepard in countless decisions throughout the course of these wars. If she isn't experienced to be Commander of the Normandy in Shepard's stead...then Hackett is not experienced to be fleet Admiral.

Time is not equivalent to experience. Not always.

Ashley is the CO.

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CptData wrote...

^ lol. Who's doing that stuff?

Hey, I should start doing my dialogues that way ... ^^

An artist on DA named Rastifan. He´s got tons of pictures...

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Dragon_Claw wrote...

Ashley´s face in panel 6.   :lol:

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I knew it was just a matter of time before you post this xD

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OneWomanArmy wrote...

Well if BE supports Arsenal, then so do I lolImage IPB


I'll have to buy you a shirt then.... the home, red and white? B)

And Arsenal won 2nil.... Dragon did the trick. I'm gonna run to him everytime they play now for luck:whistle:

Ash is happy about the result:

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Yes please, you always take such good care of me lol I want that party hat Ashley is wearing too...Image IPB

You might have to give Dragon a cyber kiss though before he gives you more luck next time Image IPB

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So I´ve just made another artwork. Ashley is not in it, but I still want to share it with you guys. Please tell me what you think. The title is "Playing for keeps". And Sam is very true to her word...

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Modifié par Dragon_Claw, 02 septembre 2012 - 07:59 .


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Sexy.
Not as sexy or Ash or OWA, but sexy. =)

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Hah, hey guys... I have a spider in my hand. I found him on the floor lol. Think I'll keep him, and call him "Rudy"

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CptData wrote...

Sexy.
Not as sexy or Ash or OWA, but sexy. =)


Thanks Data Image IPB Lol

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Hey you're back ^^
I know you said you're gone, still I do miss ya ...

This woman is pretty:
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And I know one who can compete with her ^^