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Lt. Commander Ashley Williams thread: "Don't 'Ash' me!" We're Back Baby!


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krukow wrote...

Well, we're not like other threads. We got out ending.

Those poor fools in the miri thread still hope for theirs...


What the **** are you talking about? My Shepard got out. Plenty or LURVING going on in my Shepard's future with Miranda.

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Hehe I get it. You're Kasumi and stealing art!

Genius!

I'm being dumb...


lol! :lol:

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Taboo-XX wrote...

krukow wrote...

Well, we're not like other threads. We got out ending.

Those poor fools in the miri thread still hope for theirs...


What the **** are you talking about? My Shepard got out. Plenty or LURVING going on in my Shepard's future with Miranda.


"moar miranda in DLC!  What about with Jack!  What about on Omega!  Liara got hers!" and etc.

You all are still hopeful for more.

We got our Ash catharsis.

We has a content :) 

hence less to discuss.

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I'm still not very thrilled with the ending, to be honest. Or as enthusiastic about Mass Effect.

I've just learned to not care as much about it anymore. I'll enjoy the game for what I can - the gameplay and the good parts of the story. No interest in the non-game stuff (novels, comics, movies, etc) anymore, though.

I suppose I should note that I still haven't personally experienced the EC endings - my EC playthrough is taking so long that it ended up including Leviathan - but unlike Leviathan, I didn't bother avoiding spoilers for the EC. It made things better at first, but the effect faded a bit with time. The endings are still utter crap, even if the EC makes them slightly better.

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krukow wrote...

"moar miranda in DLC!  What about with Jack!  What about on Omega!  Liara got hers!" and etc.

You all are still hopeful for me.

We got our Ash catharsis.

We has a content :) 

hence less to discuss.


My CSA/ASL reveals that Ashley has about the same amount of time for Romance as Miranda.

She simply has dialouge outside of it.

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The unfortunate truth is that Real life is more important than a game. I've already f*cked up the first semester of my degree, don't think I can recover it. And I haven't even opened the game in the last two months, let alone played. Save for just now when I've finally finished my assignment that is due for tomorrow. Truth of the matter is, we've lost ALOT of people over the past year I've been posting here. Lost a f*ckton of them. Either they left, or they changed fandoms or real life or whatever.

And there is only so many times we can discuss the same topics from slightly altered angles with the finite materials we had. Also, bare in mind that when we had the activity, we were all still complying and fantising ideas about how 'great' ME3 was going to be and pondering exactly what kind of reward we were going to recieve for being faithful to Ashley (or Kaidan). There was a fire and passion behind everything.

With the entire story leaked, and the ending fiasco - not to mention the underwheming 'reward' for staying faithful which was just a few lines of dialogue acknowledging fidelity - the fire that had fueled this thread has died down to cinders.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

My CSA/ASL reveals that Ashley has about the same amount of time for Romance as Miranda.

She simply has dialouge outside of it.


You have a scene with a fade to black.  You have a (video conference) goodbye on earth.

We have a scene with a romance scene.  We have an in-person goodbye.  We have a date on the citadel.  We have the mars/hospital stuff.  

We have the Normandy goodbye.

You're in denial.

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perhaps if what was promised and sold to us through the media, and commentary from the staff, we'd be in a better place, passed 2000 still talking about the lot of different endings we actually got and talking about the love scene with miranda, or the steamy sex with jack in the basement of the normandy and arguing with Ashley lovers why those scenes were better than Ashley's scenes. But no. Ashley wins by default and these fires were actually never ignited. I'm happy with Ashley, but sad with the rest of the game. I fell in love with everything in mass effect, not just Ashley but what can you do.

There was a fire and a passion before the game, before everything. But those times are over. Now, when we should be celebrating and talking about the game for everything it did right, we're talking about everything it did wrong. Those fires died indeed.

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krukow wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

My CSA/ASL reveals that Ashley has about the same amount of time for Romance as Miranda.

She simply has dialouge outside of it.


You have a scene with a fade to black.  You have a (video conference) goodbye on earth.

We have a scene with a romance scene.  We have an in-person goodbye.  We have a date on the citadel.  We have the mars/hospital stuff.  

We have the Normandy goodbye.

You're in denial.


You misunderstand. The CSA/ASL reveals that even Tali has about the same amount of content.

The only difference is substance.

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Aurora313 wrote...

The unfortunate truth is that Real life is more important than a game.


There's this, too. The fact is, my "real life" doesn't suck nearly as much as it did when i started posting here.

I have a job that I love on the Hill now. It's a shame it's only temporary, my life could very well suck again in about a month, but at least I know I can do a "real" job on the Hill (as opposed to an internship) so even when I leave, things will be better because of that.

One of the reasons the ME endings were so devestating for me was because I used Mass Effect as an escape. I hated grad school because I didn't really want to be there. Well, at the end of the week, on Fridays and Saturdays, I could escape into the ME universe. I hated my life after I moved to D.C. because for all of 2011 I couldn't find anything other than an internship, and then in early 2012 I could only find temp work. At least I could escape into my writing and role playing at Cerberus Daily News all week, and one of the games itself during the weekends. Didn't help that I reached the ME3 ending at a low point in my own life - right after a temp job "unextended" my contract and I felt pretty worthless and hopeless in real life. The ending made it feel like one of the few places I could always go to escape was pretty hopeless, too. The Ash thread helped me deal with that. Really helped me keep ME open as a form of escapism by helping to develop head canon through dialouges and such.

Now... things in "real life" aren't perfect, but they're a LOT better than they were. So, escapism isn't as necessary anymore.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

krukow wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

My CSA/ASL reveals that Ashley has about the same amount of time for Romance as Miranda.

She simply has dialouge outside of it.


You have a scene with a fade to black.  You have a (video conference) goodbye on earth.

We have a scene with a romance scene.  We have an in-person goodbye.  We have a date on the citadel.  We have the mars/hospital stuff.  

We have the Normandy goodbye.

You're in denial.


You misunderstand. The CSA/ASL reveals that even Tali has about the same amount of content.

The only difference is substance.

What is CSA/ASL?

Because it lies.

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Yeah, like Origin ffs. I preordered a YEAR in advance as my 19th birthday present to myself under the pretext that Origin wasn't putting it's grubby pawprints all over it. Lo and behold, about two months before release and a month after my final payment 'Oh Hai! Here's Origin! Ya gotta get it to play! Lolz! Sucked it!'.

I expected a 'freedom' that ME1+2 had. Able to do the missions I wanted before a plot had to be resolved, when I wanted - some even with a timer on them to add a scene of urgency.... only two missions I know of were on a timer. And one of them I could leave until the very f*cking end of the game anyway.

It's a good game in terms of gameplay, graphics and so on. But story, streamlining into one path like a typical shooter and dumbed down to the point of Call of Duty or Battlefield simplicity? What the hell bioware? Dragon Age Origins survived without that crap. ME1+2 survived without that crap.

It was certainly a very different thread before March 8th.

ME was and is a way to cope with my stress from university. The problem is, I don't even get time for it anymore. I'm on lunch break right now. After this, I have to dive back into assignments that I actually give two sh!ts about. Not to mention I've got 10+ 3000 word biographies and summerise them into 100 words each. Basically, got a big work load, hate it all. Quite frankly, wouldn't mind restarting my year all over again.

Modifié par Aurora313, 09 septembre 2012 - 04:09 .


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krukow wrote...

What is CSA/ASL?

Because it lies.


The Comparitive Shot Analysis/ Average Shot Length does not lie.

Most LI's have about fifteen minutes of time each, including Miranda. Miranda's is mixed in with her story plot.

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I've said it many times - Mass Effect 3 is a good game over all, but it has serious flaws as a Mass Effect game.

That, I would argue, explains why there's a disconnect between what the reviews say and what many of the hard core fans say. The reviews look at Mass Effect 3 in comparison to other games. The fans look at Mass Effect 3 in comparison to Mass Effect 1 and 2.

Modifié par DWH1982, 09 septembre 2012 - 04:10 .


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@ DWH1982
Agreed.

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I really think after I finish this playthrough of ME3, I should give Fallout 3 another shot.

Or maybe I should try this game. Read about it in PC Gamer. Looks awfully fun, and it should be released by the time I'm finished with my current playthrough:

http://www.ftlgame.com/

The problem I've always had in the past, though, is that whenever I sit down to play another game, I end up playing Mass Effect. We'll see what happens this time around.

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I totally agree with both Aurora and DWH1982.
That's why I hate reading reviews. Just like you said, they compare it to other games not Mass Effect 1 and 2. I absolutely hated how they switched to fast pacing Gears of War crap with the gameplay. I mean seriously? I would rather have had more story than gameplay, but I think thats pretty much a given with most people...where's my Mako Bioware!?
I don't plan on playing the Mass Effect series until next summer. I'm probably going to play through with femshep. Although I will play any SP DLC they come out with.

Ugh default Shepard...

Modifié par sporeaddict101, 09 septembre 2012 - 04:37 .


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If I knew when/if they were going to do more single player story DLC, it'd help me decide when to do another playthrough.

I really wish they'd consider expanding time with the characters, too... I mean, it'd be expensive as hell, but Jack, Miranda, and most of the other ME2 squad really didn't get enough time. Nor, I would argue, did Ash, even though she was better off. A DLC that at least returned cut content and fixed bugs would be nice.

Sadly, I think it would be a stretch for them to do that with Ash. We might get more time with the ME2 squad, though. I understand Weekes (I think it was him) hinted at that in a tweet.

EDIT: I should note that, as angry as I am about some things with ME3 being screwed up, in some other ways, I feel a little sorry for Bioware.

ME1 gets criticized for the Mako. They remove it, and people complain about there not being a Mako.

Ash fans ask for Ash's hair to be let down. They do that in ME3, and they get complaints.

The fans complain about how Harby "talks too much" and is too cliche as a villian. They all but remove him from ME3 and give him no lines, and the fans complain that he's not in the game enough and that he doesn't say anything.

The fans complain that ME2 had too many disconnected character missions and not enough time on the plot. In ME3, they focus on the main plot, and get complaints about how many of the characters have been marginalized.

Mind you, I'm not saying that all of the complaints are Illegtimate - many of them are perfectly legitimate. There are a lot of things in ME3 that were just plain screwed up. It's just that, with other things, it feels like Bioware can't win with the fans.

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Just finished and upload another chapter of my fan fic
Trying to figure out if The BSN allows for custom avatar photos
and enjoying the Ashley Thread again

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Yes you addressed great points DWH1982. No game is perfect but I think they could have spent more time on it to try and make it perfect. It's the last installment of the Mass Effect franchise with Commander Shepard. They spent time on ME1 and 2, which were not bad at all. In fact they were two of the best games I've played (I haven't played many though) Then on the last Mass Effect game of Commander Shepard they merge into EA and get their time cut in half to finish the game. I mean, they probably had to do it because they probably would have gone bankrupt, but I think they could have gotten more time into making it. It just SEEMS like they threw their hands in the air and said,"F*** it. We're with EA. They bought us out and we don't have much control, so let them deal with most of it."
I dunno. I don't want to think about that anymore. I'm tired of trying to find answers to WHY they did what they did. I'm setting my canon and am going to make use of the amazing parts of the Mass Effect franchise that we do have.
And I'm not going to romance anyone but Ashley....well for my male Shepard. My war hero, sole survivor, paragade, Lilia Shepard might romance Garrus. If not then she's going solo and have Ash as her sister like/best friend that she never had. Girl power I tell ya :P
This probably has mistakes because I'm on the phone, sorry.

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IMO ME1 is the worst.

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sporeian wrote...

Just finished and upload another chapter of my fan fic
Trying to figure out if The BSN allows for custom avatar photos
and enjoying the Ashley Thread again



Awesome I'll read that tomorrow :)And you have to mod a custom picture on this BSN website. There are various tutorials if you're good with the computer. I can't understand how to do it :P

But I'm fine with my Legion.

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Ghost1017 wrote...

IMO ME1 is the worst.


IMO ME1 is the best! Even though it is the worst for graphics, gameplay, and most of the voice acting, its emotional and chariter impact is what makes it great.

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ME1 - best story and characters.
ME2 - best combat system and varying enviroments.
ME3 - best graphics and romance scenes.