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[DWH1982]

My thoughts on the ME games:

1. ME1 had the best story and characters, but the worst gameplay. Unfortunately, gameplay is a very important part of a game, so, ironically, even though I enjoy ME1's story and character interaction more, I've probably spent more time playing ME2.

2. ME2 is notable for improving the gameplay of the series, but where I think it really stands out is with fleshing out the universe and making it come even more alive than ME1. I disagree on the characters here being the best, but I think they were okay. I think a failing of ME2 is that not enough time was spent on character conversations and interaction, which could have fleshed the characters out better. The romances were particularly bad, especially with Miranda, where her interest seems to just come out of nowhere after you help her - then she has nothing to say until you sleep together. There's no real buildup. No way to see the relationship developing in game. You have to make it all up in your head.

Nevertheless, I think ME2 is the best over all combination of universe and gameplay in the series, and is probably the strongest in the trilogy, despite sidelining Ash and despite the fact that it does have flaws. I'd also argue that it has the best music, a category in which it just barely defeats ME1.

3. ME3 has the best graphics, combat gameplay (I know some people hate it, but I like it better than ME2, despite admitting it has flaws) and, ironically, some of the best missions in the trilogy (Tuchanka, Rannoch, and I'd add Mars and Grissom Academy, as well). It's the weakest game in the trilogy over all, though, because it represents a major step backwards in our ability to define who our Shepard is, because it eliminates the "find your own side missions" aspect that really fleshed out the ME universe and replaced them with really bland "gun and rush" N7 missions, and because when the main missions don't hit a home run, they tend to be just underwhelming.

The really weird thing for me is that, while I think that ME2 is the "best" over all game and probably the most fun to play in general, I'd say that my top 5 favorite missions are all from ME1 and ME3:

1. Tuchanka missions (ME3)
2. Quarian/geth missions (ME3)
3. Noveria (ME1)
4. Feros (ME1)
5. Bring Down the Sky (ME1)

EDIT: Top Ash!

Modifié par DWH1982, 09 septembre 2012 - 03:01 .

[CptData]

OneWomanArmy wrote...

CptData wrote...

@Dragon: most of my dialogues start with two or three set lines, fitting to the image, while the rest is usually improvised. Ashley and Shepard become "alive" in my mind and I can't say what direction they're going to take.

It's much more fun that way - and lifelike.
So Aurora is right.
I'm just 150% as good as any other writer of such stuff

Can you make dialogue for this pic then? For three Ashley's and no Shep?:

http://desmond.image...png&res=landing

Ashley#1 is the one in the middle, Ashley#2 is left, Ashley#3 is the right one.
Ashley#1: Chief Williams, report!
Ashley#2: Chief Williams reporting. Serviceman Williams is still collecting data for the Normandy's status report, ma'am.
Ashley#1: Thank you, chief. Serviceman?
Ashley#3: Nothing to report, Commander.
Ashley#1: I gave you an order to finish this report until 1600. My clock tells me, it's already five minutes past 1600.
Ashley#3: I'm sorry, ma'am, but I got confused.
Ashley#1: Confused, Williams? By what?
Ashley#2: It's kinda confusing we all three are Ashley Madeline Williams, ma'am.
Ashley#3: And I wonder what I did wrong that I only made it to Serviceman 3rd grade.
Ashley#2: What made you to a Commander?
Ashley#1: My skills. Now, Williams, what's the status?
Ashley#2: Who?
Ashley#1: You. The other Williams. Serviceman, are you done?
Ashley#3: Still collecting data, ma'am.
Ashley#2: I'll send you a message, Commander Williams.
Ashley#1: Alright. I expect that message till 1700.
Ashley#2: Aye-aye.
Ashley#1: And I make sure I'll have a word with Mordin. His Multiversum-Portal isn't worth all the jazz.
Ashley#3: Mind if I ask why? Besides all the confusion, I mean.
Ashley#1: I rather don't want to speak about that.
Ashley#3: You should know me, Commander ...
Ashley#1: Fine. I just stepped into Commander Shepard's cabin - and did you know in another universe he's a she?
Ashley#3: No way ... how's that possible?
Ashley#1: Don't ask me. However, I wonder if I should consider it as masturbation - or incest, if you do it with yourself from another universe ...
Ashley#2: *laughs* ... sorry, ma'am.
Ashley#1: Spit it out, Chief!
Ashley#2: Just saw the same with three Liaras ...
Ashley#1: I need brain bleach.
Kaidan: Hey you three ... uhh ... who's the "right" Ashley from this universe? Has anybody seen Shepard lately? My Shepard?
Ashley#1: Which one is yours?
Kaidan: That redhaired one with those green eyes.
Ashley#1: Maybe I saw her. But answer a question first!
Kaidan: Sure thing, Commander.
Ashley#1: Is it masturbation or incest if you do it with yourself from another universe?
Kaidan: ... uhh ... no idea? Why, do you want to do it with those other Ashleys? If you don't mind, I'll bring all Jokers and Kenneths too for the show ...
All Ashley's God no! *facepalm*

Modifié par CptData, 09 septembre 2012 - 03:33 .

[duhflushtech]

sporeian wrote...

Wilkco wrote...

it is also summer time and most gaming forums slow down a bit wait till october when the weather goes cold and people will start trickling back in.

i play eve online and the same thing happens the numbers drop of during summer then october it starts picking up again.

im quite surprised at the volume of fan fiction still being produced but i suppose that is due to the non LI reunion destroy ending gives people something to work with.

that's what inspired me to start writing, I pretty much need an LI reunion. However, because they insist on us makng it up, then I will...

Do you have a link to it?

[CptData]

OWA: that masturbation-incest question is one that's in my mind since Mordin created that device to comunicate between universes - and later, to TRAVEL between 'em.

It's, of course, only a theoretical question. I hope there's no female me out there in another universe. I couldn't stand her

[Igib]

CptData wrote...

OWA: that masturbation-incest question is one that's in my mind since Mordin created that device to comunicate between universes - and later, to TRAVEL between 'em.

It's, of course, only a theoretical question. I hope there's no female me out there in another universe. I couldn't stand her

I'm sure she's thinking the same.

[CptData]

@Igib, OWA ... well, if she's like me, just female, I doubt I can stand her since my female me is also extremely stubborn and loves to argue ...
Hell, I can't even fully stand my own in this universe *g*


Where's that picture Dragon wanted to give me for dialogue fun?

[Dragon_Claw]

CptData wrote...

@Igib, OWA ... well, if she's like me, just female, I doubt I can stand her since my female me is also extremely stubborn and loves to argue ...
Hell, I can't even fully stand my own in this universe *g*


Where's that picture Dragon wanted to give me for dialogue fun?

RIGHT HERE!!!    

My new piece is called "Prime condition".



And before you guys ask... The nosebleed is due to the most intense orgasm ever!

Modifié par Dragon_Claw, 09 septembre 2012 - 06:23 .

[BP93]

LOL!

The fish must have a nice view.

[CptData]

Dragon: I'll try to figure out how to write a nice PG13 dialogue to this piece of art
Also I know the nose bleed trope. It's some manga standard, showing an amazing ... well ... orgasm.

Still kinda creepy Shepard *g*
Did you use a full nude Ash?

[iSousek]

Dragon_Claw wrote...

CptData wrote...

@Igib, OWA ... well, if she's like me, just female, I doubt I can stand her since my female me is also extremely stubborn and loves to argue ...
Hell, I can't even fully stand my own in this universe *g*


Where's that picture Dragon wanted to give me for dialogue fun?

RIGHT HERE!!!    

My new piece is called "Prime condition".



And before you guys ask... The nosebleed is due to the most intense orgasm ever!

Why is she bleeding? Oh, Shepard you wifebeater....

[Dragon_Claw]

CptData wrote...

Dragon: I'll try to figure out how to write a nice PG13 dialogue to this piece of art
Also I know the nose bleed trope. It's some manga standard, showing an amazing ... well ... orgasm.

Still kinda creepy Shepard *g*
Did you use a full nude Ash?

It´s true that guys in anime & manga get a nose bleed, when they see a pretty girl (still don´t know why). But that´s not where I got it from. Back in the 90´s I saw the movie "This boys life" with Leonardo DiCaprio, where he brags to his freind that he "****ed this girl, till she got a nosebleed". He was bluffing, but the line has stuck with me ever since.

Shep is kinda creepy when you only see one side of his face, but I wanted the straight on angel because of the fishtank. And Ash is wearing underwear, since I haven´t found a full nude XNALara model for her yet. I do know that GMod has a bunch of nudes, but I haven´t tried that yet.

Modifié par Dragon_Claw, 09 septembre 2012 - 07:09 .

[iSousek]

Dragon_Claw wrote...

CptData wrote...

Dragon: I'll try to figure out how to write a nice PG13 dialogue to this piece of art
Also I know the nose bleed trope. It's some manga standard, showing an amazing ... well ... orgasm.

Still kinda creepy Shepard *g*
Did you use a full nude Ash?

It´s true that guys in anime & manga get a nose bleed, when they see a pretty girl (still don´t know why). But that´s not where I got it from. Back in the 90´s I saw the movie "This boys life" with Leonardo DiCaprio, where he brags to his freind that he "****ed this girl, till she got a nosebleed". He was bluffing, but the line has stuck with me ever since.

Shep is kinda creepy when you only see one side of his face, but I wanted the straight on angel because of the fishtank. And Ash is wearing underwear, since I haven´t found a full nude XNALara model for her yet. I do know that GMod has a bunch of nudes, but I haven´t tried that yet.

Well, glad to see that your artistic capacity is growing xD

[sporeian]

iSousek wrote...

Dragon_Claw wrote...

CptData wrote...

Dragon: I'll try to figure out how to write a nice PG13 dialogue to this piece of art
Also I know the nose bleed trope. It's some manga standard, showing an amazing ... well ... orgasm.

Still kinda creepy Shepard *g*
Did you use a full nude Ash?

It´s true that guys in anime & manga get a nose bleed, when they see a pretty girl (still don´t know why). But that´s not where I got it from. Back in the 90´s I saw the movie "This boys life" with Leonardo DiCaprio, where he brags to his freind that he "****ed this girl, till she got a nosebleed". He was bluffing, but the line has stuck with me ever since.

Shep is kinda creepy when you only see one side of his face, but I wanted the straight on angel because of the fishtank. And Ash is wearing underwear, since I haven´t found a full nude XNALara model for her yet. I do know that GMod has a bunch of nudes, but I haven´t tried that yet.

Well, glad to see that your artistic capacity is growing xD

Your almost at Bioware levels of artistic capacity!!!!!

[DWH1982]

Creepy shep is actually why I can't use Sheploo. Have to use a custom face.

Not sure Ash would actually go for someone who can be as creepy looking as Sheploo. At least if I'm honest.

Modifié par DWH1982, 09 septembre 2012 - 07:45 .

[CptData]

Dragon_Claw wrote...
*snip*


And before you guys ask... The nosebleed is due to the most intense orgasm ever!

Ashley: Ohh ... yaaahh!
Shepard: Uuhhh ... Ashley!
-
Joker: I told you that was a good idea, Samantha.
Traynor: You just told me you're interested in those fishes! I never thought you'd use it to spy on your commander!
Joker: Well, I AM interested in fishes. This is just that little extra I was hoping for. Of course ... I thought he would ask Liara, but Williams has a nice body too.
Traynor: Pervert.
Joker: Can't help myself. Someone has to fill that role too!
Traynor: If you like cameras, why don't you ask Diana? I heard she tried to make her move on Shepard.
Joker: She did. It's all on video. Wanna watch how Shepard shoots someone down?
Traynor: No thanks.
Joker: Whatever. I won't date Allers. Not as long as EDI is around.
EDI: My body's presence in the cockpit is not needed to listen to your talk, Jeff.
Joker: I know, mom. And I'm a good boy, I don't date that reporter in the cargo bay.
EDI: That's a wise decision, Jeff.
Traynor: She sounds jealous.
Joker: EDI is never jealous.
EDI: Airlock Safety Protocol - Test running ... uh-oh.
Joker: I don't like the sound of this, however.
Traynor: She definitely sounds jealous, Joker.
Joker: I hope she's not.
Traynor: Well, we better hope that "Airlock Safety Protocol" EDI is running will fix that issue.
Joker: If not - I have to tell Shepard.
-
Ashley: That was great, Skipper ... I love you.
Shepard: Is it me or did that little rock in my fishtank move ... ?
Ashley: That's just you. Round two?
Shepard: Always, ma'am!
Joker: Commander, we've got another problem with the airlock!
Shepard: *groans* ... what is it? Javik again?
Ashley: *whispers* I hate this guy ... I mean Joker ...
Shepard: *whispers back* He definitely has a bad habit to destroy the moment ...
Joker: It's EDI - her ASP gave us an alarm.
Shepard: Don't bother with telling us what "ASP" means ... *angry*
Joker: I won't. Joker out. Ohh ... have fun with whatever exercises you do.
Ashley: He definitely knows what we're doing here.
Shepard: Did that rock move again?
Ashley: Oh shut up ...

Modifié par CptData, 09 septembre 2012 - 09:13 .

[survivor_686]

If your nose bleeds whenever you orgasm, you might might want to seek medical attention...

[Dragon_Claw]

CptData wrote...

Dragon_Claw wrote...
*snip*
*sexy snip*

And before you guys ask... The nosebleed is due to the most intense orgasm ever!

Ashley: Ohh ... yaaahh!
Shepard: Uuhhh ... Ashley!
-
Joker: I told you that was a good idea, Samantha.
Traynor: You just told me you're interested in those fishes! I never thought you'd use it to spy on your commander!
Joker: Well, I AM interested in fishes. This is just that little extra I was hoping for. Of course ... I thought he would ask Liara, but Williams has a nice body too.
Traynor: Pervert.
Joker: Can't help myself. Someone has to fill that role too!
Traynor: If you like cameras, why don't you ask Diana? I heard she tried to make her move on Shepard.
Joker: She did. It's all on video. Wanna watch how Shepard shoots someone down?
Traynor: No thanks.
Joker: Whatever. I won't date Allers. Not as long as EDI is around.
EDI: My body's presence in the cockpit is not needed to listen to your talk, Jeff.
Joker: I know, mom. And I'm a good boy, I don't date that reporter in the cargo bay.
EDI: That's a wise decision, Jeff.
Traynor: She sounds jealous.
Joker: EDI is never jealous.
EDI: Airlock Safety Protocol - Test running ... uh-oh.
Joker: I don't like the sound of this, however.
Traynor: She definitely sounds jealous, Joker.
Joker: I hope she's not.
Traynor: Well, we better hope that "Airlock Safety Protocol" EDI is running will fix that issue.
Joker: If not - I have to tell Shepard.
-
Ashley: That was great, Skipper ... I love you.
Shepard: Is it me or did that little rock in my fishtank move ... ?
Ashley: That's just you. Round two?
Shepard: Always, ma'am!
Joker: Commander, we've got another problem with the airlock!
Shepard: *groans* ... what is it? Javik again?
Ashley: *whispers* I hate this guy ... I mean Joker ...
Shepard: *whispers back* He definitely has a bad habit to destroy the moment ...
Joker: It's EDI - her ASP gave us an alarm.
Shepard: Don't bother with telling us what "ASP" means ... *angry*
Joker: I won't. Joker out. Ohh ... have fun with whatever exercises you do.
Ashley: He definitely knows what we're doing here.
Shepard: Did that rock move again?
Ashley: Oh shut up ...

[DWH1982]

survivor_686 wrote...

If your nose bleeds whenever you orgasm, you might might want to seek medical attention...

Gives me a whole new perspective on the Leviathan mind control scenes, though.

Just what do the Leviathans do to you when they take control, anyway?

[ADLegend21]

DWH1982 wrote...

survivor_686 wrote...

If your nose bleeds whenever you orgasm, you might might want to seek medical attention...

Gives me a whole new perspective on the Leviathan mind control scenes, though.

Just what do the Leviathans do to you when they take control, anyway?

pretty much indoctrination. send out signals that rewire the electricity the brain uses and hat can possibly be painful, thus the bleeding from the nose. that's my best guess anyway.

[CptData]

You should read the dialogue, OWA ...

Only you would make "dialogues" like this ;-)
Right?

[Ghost]

 Time to post the pic in the miri thread...