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[Rafficus III]

I feel like Ash is way too misunderstood at times and the gem she is, is often over looked. She became my favorite squadmate due to her snarky remarks and how open she was with who she was. Ultimately, how she represented a Deist viewpoint respectfully in a Sci-Fi oriented game won me over and made me respect Bioware a lot more. Kim Brooks did an excellent job voicing her throughout the series and really stepped it up in the third even when she was stripped of a lot of potential dialogue.

I wanted to hear her ask Shep what it was like when he died. I wanted to hear about that gap without each other and what she did. I wanted to hear more awkward and accidental statements, like the first time on the Citadel. And most of all, I wanted to see her lift a damaged Shepard, like he had for her in Mars, after the crew found him among the rubble, much like ME1, and end with the two smiling at each other. It would have been nice having a slide saying what happened to her so I didn't have to head canon her fate or wait on pins and needles, but it doesn't matter. In the end, I keep going back and doing playthroughs and finding a contentment just having her, after missing her in ME2. When DEV's ask what I want, I'll respond more Ash and I'll ask for more of her via content whenever I can. Going through ME3 and knowing how it ends can be hard at times and it can be hard asking why repeat that wound or what is even worth doing it all again. It all ultimately comes down to the fact Ash is and has always been worth it.

[iSousek]

hornedfrog87 wrote...

I feel like Ash is way too misunderstood at times and the gem she is, is often over looked. She became my favorite squadmate due to her snarky remarks and how open she was with who she was. Ultimately, how she represented a Deist viewpoint respectfully in a Sci-Fi oriented game won me over and made me respect Bioware a lot more. Kim Brooks did an excellent job voicing her throughout the series and really stepped it up in the third even when she was stripped of a lot of potential dialogue.

I wanted to hear her ask Shep what it was like when he died. I wanted to hear about that gap without each other and what she did. I wanted to hear more awkward and accidental statements, like the first time on the Citadel. And most of all, I wanted to see her lift a damaged Shepard, like he had for her in Mars, after the crew found him among the rubble, much like ME1, and end with the two smiling at each other. It would have been nice having a slide saying what happened to her so I didn't have to head canon her fate or wait on pins and needles, but it doesn't matter. In the end, I keep going back and doing playthroughs and finding a contentment just having her, after missing her in ME2. When DEV's ask what I want, I'll respond more Ash and I'll ask for more of her via content whenever I can. Going through ME3 and knowing how it ends can be hard at times and it can be hard asking why repeat that wound or what is even worth doing it all again. It all ultimately comes down to the fact Ash is and has always been worth it.

Yep, her character felt most real to me when I first played Mass Effect. I think that K.B. is probably one of the best voice actors throughout the trilogy, there is a lot of emotion in her voice.

I can't comment on the rest of your statment because it makes this thread a sad thread, but like you I also had high hopes

[Rafficus III]

iSousek wrote...


Yep, her character felt most real to me when I first played Mass Effect. I think that K.B. is probably one of the best voice actors throughout the trilogy, there is a lot of emotion in her voice.

I can't comment on the rest of your statment because it makes this thread a sad thread, but like you I also had high hopes

On a happy note she finally said those three words, which made everything come full circle. Gotta count for something, right? 

[ashlover mark 2]

@hornedfrog87 if you have leviathan and ash is present on the final mission she runs out from cover to save you and helps carry you back to the shuttle it was great to see that at the end.

[Rafficus III]

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

@hornedfrog87 if you have leviathan and ash is present on the final mission she runs out from cover to save you and helps carry you back to the shuttle it was great to see that at the end.

Yes, it was a great scene and the evac scene in the EC was tremendous as well. I was just voicing what I would have liked to have seen in the ending after the final choice. 

[sporeaddict101]

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

@DWH yep i agree. alot of ashley fans are adults. if anything me and few other older regulars were teenagers when we started posting. i just turned 21.

Yeah I think I might just be the youngest Ash girl fan here 

[ashlover mark 2]

@hornedfrog87 yea i hear ya. i was expecting a much more thoughtful and detailed ending to the triliogy after all these years. something like DAO. but it was not to be atleast the EC makes it a little better. it isnt total garbage anymore.

@sporeaddict101 its only been three or so years but man with all the posting it feels like an eternity. glad there are new faces though. im always glad to comeback in here and see completly diffrent ppl talking about how much they love ash. thats how i know ashley isnt as hated or unpopular as some might belive.

[sporeaddict101]

@ashlover mark 2 Yep I came here about a month and a half ago. It seemed like I was seeing so much hate and no respect for Ashley, pretty much all over. I didn't even know there were threads dedicated to specific characters until I found the very first Ashley thread. Although I think it got cut off because it was old, off topic, or a new one was being started up. I thought I had found the second Ashley support thread I had been looking for but then I saw that the last post was about 3 months before. I was disappointed to see that, but then I found this thread. It was finally a place where I could support a character that I really liked, freely and without getting hate thrown back at me. I thought Ashley was really unpopular and it seemed like I was the only one who liked her as a character from ME1 to ME3. But, then I discovered this thread and knew I wasn't alone.

Modifié par sporeaddict101, 17 septembre 2012 - 12:55 .

[ashlover mark 2]

funny you mentioned those old threads i was just looking through them both. first thread got locked for off topicness but that was our fault we kindve used the thread as a chatroom. we still loved ash but there wasnt much to talk about. back then it felt like everyone hated ash and ashs role in ME2 sucked so we kindve thought it was the end of our beloved ashley williams and that the haters had won or atleast thats how i felt.

second thread crawled along for awhile then suddenly more and more ppl started comeing out nowwhere posting how much they loved ash and wished she had a better role in ME2. then things really got exciting when game informer releaesed the first look of ashley that confimed her as a returning as a sqaud member.then everyone on BSN freaked out over ashs "NEW LOOK" it was really fun and funny at times. then the second thread died after some infighting and this thread was created.

and bam here we are third ashley thread 1905 pages strong and still going.

Modifié par ashlover mark 2, 17 septembre 2012 - 01:11 .

[DWH1982]

I actually found the Ash support thread in the ME2 forums back in 2010. I read through the entire thing, mostly during the evening after class (I was in grad school at the time) as a way to relax. Didn't post anything myself until early 2011 or so.

I was actually amazed by the level of hate for her on the BSN. She was always my favorite character, and it was just shocking to see the way so many people seem to feel about her.

[sporeaddict101]

I saw her look in the game informer magazine, then in the beta. I didn't have much reaction to it for some reason. But I could understand the excitement they had over her "NEW LOOK" at that time XD

I've said this before, but I really hope we can get to 2000 pages.
It's doable! We are still strong!
I don't like number 19 either because it's not even and it doesn't look.....neat x)

[ashlover mark 2]

@DWH oh so you were one of THOSE!?? gahhh...why do ppl lurk in threads they like?! we need them to post. help keep our fandom diverse and alive! if all the lurkers and roaming ashley fans would come and hangout with us wed be past 2000 pages by now.

[sporeaddict101]

I lurked for a couple of pages to see what kind of people these Ash supporters were. I didn't want to impose or feel unwlecomed. Obviously I couldn't determine their personalities or who they were from just a couple of posts, but it turns out everybody on this forum is awesome and very nice from how they responded. They were very accommodating and made me feel welcome. Much, much, nicer than what I've seen on some of the other BSN forums...

[redbaron76]

we on ash forum all all very friendly and welocming to all the new ash fans. We need more ash dlc bioware please.

[DWH1982]

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

@DWH oh so you were one of THOSE!?? gahhh...why do ppl lurk in threads they like?! we need them to post. help keep our fandom diverse and alive! if all the lurkers and roaming ashley fans would come and hangout with us wed be past 2000 pages by now.

Heh, yeah, basically from Sept. 2010 through Dec 2010. Funny story - I read the entire Ash thread in about a month, then started reading the Kaidan thread. Which was so freaking long that I never did make it through before I gave up and started posting on both threads.

Then I was a regular poster for a few months in 2011, before I mostly left for a few reasons - depression over real life (that wasn't a great time), Cerberus Daily News taking up more of my time, and a desire to avoid ME3 spoilers.

Then, of course, I came back after I played ME3. So I could have a place where I could come to deal with the endings.

Modifié par DWH1982, 17 septembre 2012 - 02:25 .

[ashlover mark 2]

DWH1982 wrote...

ashlover mark 2 wrote...

@DWH oh so you were one of THOSE!?? gahhh...why do ppl lurk in threads they like?! we need them to post. help keep our fandom diverse and alive! if all the lurkers and roaming ashley fans would come and hangout with us wed be past 2000 pages by now.

Heh, yeah, basically from Sept. 2010 through Dec 2010. Funny story - I read the entire Ash thread in about a month, then started reading the Kaidan thread. Which was so freaking long that I never did make it through before I gave up and started posting on both threads.

Then I was a regular poster for a few months in 2011, before I mostly left for a few reasons - depression over real life (that wasn't a great time), Cerberus Daily News taking up more of my time, and a desire to avoid ME3 spoilers.

Then, of course, I came back after I played ME3. So I could have a place where I could come to deal with the endings.

you ever read through the first ashley thread?

[DWH1982]

Nope, only the one that was up and running in Sept 2010.

[ashlover mark 2]

just did the math. over the course of 4 years the ashley fandom has 3813 overall thread pages of ashley williams love and support.

would love to go back and count all the posters who were ashley fans over the years. see how many there were. im guessing somewhere in the hundreds.

[sporeaddict101]

I don't want to seem like a downer but 3,813 doesn't seem like much compared to some other characters. It is something though, and that's great there were so many people supporting her over the years. And what counts is that she is the most interesting character, best romance, and a badass soldier...imo.
She would be such an awesome sister. Well she already is to Sarah and the other two. They are too lucky to have a sister like Ashley.

[Dragon_Claw]

Glad to see the recent activity!  

[sporeaddict101]

Yeah I was hoping some west coasters would be on tonight, but I'll try again tomorrow

I'll leave it to the euros and eastern peeps to take ova.

[Wilkco]

sporeaddict101 wrote...

Yeah I was hoping some west coasters would be on tonight, but I'll try again tomorrow

I'll leave it to the euros and eastern peeps to take ova.

eu team reporting in

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[BP93]

@spore... I'm here... *sobs*

EAST COASTERS ARE LAME

Sorry, but I got nothing to add. Been playing some Max Payne lately. Memories. I remember coming home from elementary school and playing the first game 10 years ago. Making me feel old though. The third game is excellent. Sorry but James McCaffrey > Kim Brooks.

I have barely even touched the campaign of ME3 since the EC. No desire anymore. I started a new game and got past Mars and quit.

[Made Nightwing]

Australia reporting in after slamming down three assignments over the weekend, like a boss.

Had a Battle PT session at Reserves the other night...I have a feeling Ashley would be very dissapointed.