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[Rdubs]

MegaBadExample wrote...

^Wouldn't it be really, really stupid and selfish of Shepard to drag Ash into that sh*tstorm just because he misses her? I think so.

Shepard can't even contact Ash. He has no clue where she even is as that information is 'classified'. And hell, Shepard may have cut ties with Cerberus, but after what he's done I doubt Anderson would give out Ashley's location or any information on her after finding out he killed 300,000.

As for Ash finding Shepard? She's out in deployment on her own missions, doing her own thing. She wouldn't drop it. But I've gotta feeling she's the spectre with the job of bringing him to Earth to face the music. There has just got to be a scene before the trial, between Shepard and Ash. I mean how the hell is she already on the Normandy? Lookin' all fly with the flowing silky hair.

Guess we'll see how it plays out.

I'm guessing you missed the part where I said I was talking post-mission but pre-Arrival.  Post-arrival, I agree with you.  In the interests of comity I'll leave it there.  

Shepard can contact Ash, it's called hitting Reply.  He doesn't need to walk the streets of Omega asking bartenders if they have seen a hot Marine.  As Badpie pointed out email can not come close to repairing the damage but using email he could ask her if he could see her and take it from there.  At that point I am sure you would come back with, yes but she could be on a mission or something and unable to reply hence the lead-in to ME3, and at that point I'd agree with you that such would be plausible.  But at least he'd have going for him that he tried, which would matter to her as opposed to just seeing her at trial or something and being like, oh hey what's up haven't communicated with you since Horizon.  I agree that Anderson would not have much to do with Shepard post-Arrival until the trial but it's moot because I am talking pre-Arrival.

As for your last two paragraphs, I completely agree.

Edit: TopA!



And just because it's on the mind...



Edit 2: Some said they liked my avatar so here is a bigger shot if anyone else wants to use.

Modifié par Rdubs, 01 septembre 2011 - 08:01 .

[Rdubs]

Mr. Brainheart wrote...

@Mega; You mean this pic right?

I always assumed this was in a shuttle for some reason, but it could be a shuttle to the trial perhaps? . Shepard looks like he's contemplating, it seems a fitting look for someone who is going to trial.

Ofcourse this might just be a new casual outfit for Shepard.

@Deelane, That's his mattock? I thought it was his seat! Lol. Well that would change the situation

Holy crap Brainheart!  I had always thought that was his seat too!  That's why I was thinking that scene, given the somber looks on their faces, was a shot from when Ashley was taking him in for the trial.  They're both riding in the vehicle not saying anything kind of waiting for what comes next with the trial.  If that's his weapon, then my new theory is they're on the Normandy after it escapes watching the destruction of Earth, pissed they're not able to do anything except watch.  (Edit: Basically what Deelane said.  Spasiba!)

PS: re: my comment sorry about that, on some other forums I follow those "you beat me to it" comments normally are almost always condescending.  Hard to gauge tone through text some times, I apologize.

Modifié par Rdubs, 01 septembre 2011 - 07:56 .

[Mr. Brainheart]

Rdubs wrote...

Shepard can contact Ash, it's called hitting Reply. 

The problem of the E-mail system in a nutshell...that was very annoying, it was nice that they added that system, for a little more depth, but they could have done more with it. it was a bit of tease when you got Ashleys mail and couldn't say anything back.

edit.

Modifié par Mr. Brainheart, 01 septembre 2011 - 07:55 .

[Rdubs]

Badpie wrote...

Just out of curiosity, how much time do you think is there? I got the impression that the missions like Collectors/Shadow Broker/ Arrival happened BOOM BOOM BOOM! I never pictured Shepard just sitting there on the ship doing nothing for a week or two in between.

And even if the beginning of ME3 happens like 6 months after Arrival, we don't know yet how long Shepard has been on Earth, possibly incarcerated awaiting this "trial." Paperwork and politics is a long and slow process.

I still feel like anything Shepard could have possibly done to reach out to Ashley would simply not be enough to satisfy either of them (let alone the fans). Even if it was a response in email, what could he have said? There's too much to say, which is essentially why things didn't go as well on Horizon.

They both have their lives and responsibilities at the moment and those are top priority, but I'm sure they both know that when they have the chance, when they finally do get to talk some things need to be settled.

(sorry last post)
I think that explains it. If you assume events happen back-to-back, I am totally without and withdraw the idea. I was under the impression there would have been at least a month post-suicide before LotSB occurred, then maybe another month or two before Arrival. I tend to base that on, in many game sequels I've seen the developers just use the amount of time between sequels as the amout of time between games. Not sure exactly but I think it was 2 years between when ME and ME2 came out, which might explain why they picked 2 years for Shepard to reconstruct (yes there could be many other reasons). In this case I cut that down because makes no sense for Shepard to be wandering the galaxy that much between development times this time. I do agree that probably not long after Arrival Shepard would have turned himself in - what else does he have going on? He's not one to hide, especially since he did the right thing. But that's a moot point because I am with you that post-Arrival he couldn't do anything Ash-related, at that point he was done.

If you believe there were at least a couple months between the suicide mission and Arrival then I am sure Shepard would have tried to see Ash. Of course it is also possible he tried and couldn't for some reason, which would be the same lead-in as he didn't. With that in mind I'll withdraw the idea. My whole point was how easy it would be for Bioware to change the dynamic for us leading into ME3 pretty easily, even if he never saw or contacted her again.

[Rdubs]

duplicate.  delete.

Modifié par Rdubs, 01 septembre 2011 - 07:53 .

[Mr. Brainheart]

About the trial/ash&Shep pic: Yeah The somber mood would be appropriate just after leaving earth too (actually it would probably be appropriate through most of the game)

(@Rdubs; and no problem, there are indeed a lot of unkind comments about on the web, unfortunately)

[StrawberryDemon]

Hmmm, bringing back the picture of Shepard and Ash sitting, I simply wish it was taken from a further out shot then we could guess much more accurately, but also the fact they're looking away from each other (Could just be the shot obviously) but it could suggest tension, and the fact they are on the way to the trial? Possibly maybe?

[Mr. Brainheart]

elektrego wrote...

The problem with the Mass Effect 2 timeline is, that there is really only pre- and post-Horizon. Within those timeframes everything is interchangeable. There is no such thing as a fixed pre-/post-sm and pre-/post-arrival, because the player decides the order.
This may sound stupid, but Mass Effect 2, that is Shepard's mission with Cerberus, doesn't end until you import your file into ME3. The timeline of ME2 is up to the player. Because of the structure of the game, there is no fixed time slot in-between Mass Effect 2 and Arrival or between Mass Effect 2 and 3 within Mass Effect 2 in which such a time-specific DLC could be fitted. You'd have to reorganize the whole game and make DLC only playable after the SM and in a specific order.
That's why I think it's best to write the reunion properly into ME3 instead of cramming it into ME2 as a DLC, not anymore - that chance has passed, because everybody is anticipating the trial and ME3 now. I have always looked at the trilogy as one story anyway.
And I am looking forward to another six months of sweet anticipation. At least we know now, that we are getting something and I, for one, am hopeful.
I hope, I made clear, what I mean! Yay for none-native speakers.

Yes  that's true, I always like to do as much as possible before  the games end mission (except for arrival, because say what you will about the quality, it is a nice set up for ME3.) it makes more sense to me that way, but not everyone likes to play it like that or finds that sensical since the suicide mission feels like(and partially is) a time sensitive mission. Atleast Ash gets to be the one to mark the halfway point.

PS: Yes, being a non native speaker is fun indeed!(/sarcasm) Although I find it  makes me speak in a more correct manner then some native speakers, well sometimes anyway.=P

@Strawberry; Yeah, the picture is too unclear to see where they are. I guess they really don't want to give away (m)any spoilers.

[Dr. Doctor]

I get the feeling that there's just going to be awkwardness between Shepard and Ash for a little while after the whole thing on Earth.

Shepard: So...Spectre?

Ash: Yeah, Anderson's idea. After...y'know.

Shepard: Good. You deserve it.

Ash: Thanks, Skipper. The Normandy's a sight for sore eyes.

Shepard: It's got a galley, sure beats living off field rations for months at a time.

Ash: Yeah. The VI doesn't do the old "The commanding officer is aboard thing" thing though.

EDI: The commanding officer is aboard, and making awkward small talk.

Ash: Did the computer just-

EDI: That was a joke.

[ADLegend21]

I support EDI interacting with Ashley in ME3

[xxSgt_Reed_24xx]

Badpie wrote...
 Everyone always says "wouldn't the first thing you'd do be to go talk to Ash?"  The answer is no.  That's pretty far down the list of "sh*t Shepard has to do today."  

Maybe on YOUR Shepard's list... but it's on the top of mine's list... right under "thwart the reapers in this installment of the game." ... and that's be taken care of. The galaxy is fine for now... and my Shepard doesn't give a rat's ass what the alliance wants him to answer for. He just saved the damn galaxy twice... he owes no one. They owe him.

Soon as (I haven't done arrival) he finishes with the whole arrival deal, my Shepard would contact... NOT face to face... the council and the alliance brass... alert them of the threat and approximately how much time they have, Disconnect and find Ash as that may be the last time he gets to see her... and he doesn't want the whole horizon thing to be the last memory of Ash.

Besides, it's not like it would take all that long to explain things and talk about it. Plenty of time to excuse himself and get back to saving the galaxy again. Most soliders don't go to war without saying goodbye to their loved ones. You don't see them going... "well, I'm being deployed... **** you, I'm too busy to say goodbye!"

[Aurora313]

Mr. Brainheart wrote...

Now that I've had a chance to think about it. The white and grey metal on Shepard's back may be either his Mattock, or a chair. If it is his Mattock, then I believe this screencap could have been taken somewhere at the end of the Exodus from earth and he's contemplating his next course of action, and Ashley is the one presenting the different possible courses of action. Of course, it could be he's sitting on a chair during transport to his trial and Ash is just along for the ride...

[ADLegend21]

That's the mattock since that's what the AR goes when it's on your back. That might be the end of the get off Earth Demo.

[Grey34]

Badpie wrote...

Grey34 wrote...

this is my first post in this thread so hello everyone its 12 30 at night down here in aus. so i assume theres no news about ash in me3 yet.

Hello Grey and welcome!  There hasn't been too much in the way of news as far as Ash goes.  We know she's in the game and she's "a major part of the storyline" according to Mac Walters.  We know she's "matured and more sure of herself" and from the pictures we've all gleaned that she is now a SpecTRe and possibly a Lieutenant (based on audio dialogue from a demo).  Beyond that they've been pretty quiet about Ash.

 thank you for the welcome i try to engage with people in other threads but they seem to just ignore .oh man bioware really knows how build up supense don't they grrr. i wonder if she was a spectre me2 when we meet her on horizon or in between the 2nd game and the third. 

[ADLegend21]

I've got some good screens on the way. :>

[Cossack72]

Dr. Doctor wrote...

Shepard: So...Spectre?

Ash: Yeah, Anderson's idea. After...y'know.

Shepard: Good. You deserve it.

Ash: Thanks, Skipper. The Normandy's a sight for sore eyes.

Shepard: It's got a galley, sure beats living off field rations for months at a time.

Ash: Yeah. The VI doesn't do the old "The commanding officer is aboard thing" thing though.

EDI: The commanding officer is aboard, and making awkward small talk.

Ash: Did the computer just-

EDI: That was a joke.

Asbolutely flawless <3

[ADLegend21]

as promised:

[ADLegend21]

Fondi wrote...

So I'm guessing that someone's plan is to give the Normandy to Ashley or Kaidan if the trial goes poorly?

Also, who do you think made Ash a SpecTRe?  Anderson or Udina?

Ash: *walks in council chambers* Give me spectre status
Council: No
Ash: *points gun at them* Now.
Council: okay fine! *votes her in*
Ash: that's what I thought *Shades*
YEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH*CSI music*

[GRISHASAUR]

Mr. Brainheart wrote...

@Mega; You mean this pic right?


I always assumed this was in a shuttle for some reason, but it could be a shuttle to the trial perhaps? . Shepard looks like he's contemplating, it seems a fitting look for someone who is going to trial.

Ofcourse this might just be a new casual outfit for Shepard.

@Deelane, That's his mattock? I thought it was his seat! Lol. Well that would change the situation

awkward silent drive to the  trial  maybe

Modifié par GRISHASAUR, 02 septembre 2011 - 02:03 .

[GRISHASAUR]

takes closer look oh that his gun didnt see that

[Dr. Doctor]

Rdubs wrote...

Shepard can contact Ash, it's called hitting Reply. 

Ash: So you still have that e-mail?

Shepard: It was from you.

Ash: But you never replied.

Shepard: There wasn't a reply button.

Ash: (laughs) That is the worst excuse I have ever heard.

Shepard: (hands Ash a datapad) I'm not kidding.