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[Rudy Lis]

CptData wrote...

Maybe he's even called by duty so early that he uses a prosthesis for a while until he got time to regrow his missing limb.

Isn't regrowing require rest and lack of activity?

[CptData]

Rudy Lis wrote...

CptData wrote...

Maybe he's even called by duty so early that he uses a prosthesis for a while until he got time to regrow his missing limb.

Isn't regrowing require rest and lack of activity?

Yep. And since the galaxy still needs him he might not have the time to regrow that missing limb. Easy as it is. Besides that, I kinda like the idea of "Long John Shepard" (Long John Silver"

It also fits to his more ruthless role he plays after the war.

Also answered your question on last page, Rudy.

[Rudy Lis]

CptData wrote...

Yep. And since the galaxy still needs him he might not have the time to regrow that missing limb.

Why the hell galaxy needs him? Let guy rest already!

CptData wrote...

It also fits to his more ruthless role he plays after the war.

Nah, it's so much simpler with mine.

CptData wrote...

Also answered your question on last page, Rudy.

Never thought of myself as of artillery man, but you've been caught in fork...

[BadExamp1e]

Time Laspe wrote...

BP93 wrote...

Yup, the second picture is terrific because I envision that she is reading Dr. Seuss.

GREEN EGGS AND HAM

Pff she isn't reading it to him, she's rapping it to him. 

Okay, I know I'm not the only one here who used to rap Dr.Seuss books, especially Green Eggs and Ham. 

Haha! Sweet memories! 

[Aurora313]

In some of my darker head canons, I've toyed with the idea of making Shepard almost 70% prothetic... but at that point, he kind of only sticks around because there's no poor bastard smart/skilled/quick enough to kill him. - In that one, Ash died from her injuries during the final charge. Since she was gone, Shepard wanted to join her, but didn't have the guts - or lack thereof - to point a gun at his own head.

At this current point in time in my current headcanon - it's exactly what I said. Shepard gets replaced left limbs and scarred down that side of his body. He's no longer a fighter, but is tasked with being a diplomate. Making sure the Alliances he made are there to stay and trying to placate any conflicts that arise. He operates out of the Normandy as the De Facto XO with Ashley in charge (he's always liked taking her 'orders'. ;P ). But when push comes to shove, out comes the armour and shotgun. Aside from that, he spends most of his downtime playing poker or drinking... possibly both at the same time.

Modifié par Aurora313, 03 octobre 2012 - 11:31 .

[CptData]

^ well, in your headcanon Shep was able to keep those alliances.

In my headcanon, those alliances are history. Krogans and Turians are still allies, but both hold grudges against the Salarians who refused to help 'cause of the cure of the genophage. The Asari suffer the deepest downfall when the galaxy learned about the truth of their power. Overall the power vacuum is the greatest issue - it's nearly impossible to keep the once allied races off the throats of each other.

One of the sources of the upcoming conflicts is Dalatress Linron. She gets assassinated at a later point by Shepard - who's supported by the STG.
In case of the Asari mostly Matriarch Aethyta (uhhh spelling?) and Tevos try to keep the peace, which is the main cause why no open war gets started. But the situation is pretty much effed up.

So to speak.

Shepard is, by the way, called a rogue Spectre. Ashley is one of four Spectres assigned to stop Shepard.

[Rudy Lis]

Wow, what a story! Let me guess, Ashley is Rear-Admiral in 2187? Oh, wait, she is Admiralissimus. General-Feldmarshal-Admiralissimus, am I right?

[Saito404]

Ugrrh... Dark headcanons strikes again...
Here is some light in the darkness

[Rudy Lis]

Saito404 wrote...

Ugrrh... Dark headcanons strikes again...
Here is some light in the darkness

Ugh. ME3 face should be tore down and build all over again. Simply by taking ME1/2 one.

[Aurora313]

What would you rather?

Shepard and Ashley together on beach-side property of a sunday afternoon watching a son and a daughter playing together in the tide and molding sandcastles?


.... actually, that's a pretty good one. I'm writing that down.

[Aurora313]

Honestly. A bittersweet ending like Gears of War 3 would have made it for me. Shepard, injured, but moving just tosses his equipment aside and sits down somewhere quiet lamenting on all the lost lives and the Love interest or best mate, depending on what you did, just stands at their side and places a hand on their shoulder to congratulate/comfort/relieve them.

[Rudy Lis]

Aurora313 wrote...

What would you rather?

If that directed to me, then point of previous post (well, one above previous) wasn't about that.

[CptData]

Rudy Lis wrote...

Wow, what a story! Let me guess, Ashley is Rear-Admiral in 2187? Oh, wait, she is Admiralissimus. General-Feldmarshal-Admiralissimus, am I right?

She's still Lieutenant Commander.
Shepard got a promotion by one rank (Staff Commander). That's it.

If Ash makes it to a Rear Admiral, then it'll be around 2230 or something

[survivor_686]

Hello all,

Just to let you know "Wrath of Thunder" is still in the works and by no means is Ashley's adventures on the planet of Tarshish over. Just ran into a ton of work and am just finishing it off.

[Saito404]

Aurora313 wrote...

What would you rather?

Shepard and Ashley together on beach-side property of a sunday afternoon watching a son and a daughter playing together in the tide and molding sandcastles?


.... actually, that's a pretty good one. I'm writing that down.

Yeah, that's much better. I rather this scene instead of random old man who tells stories about "one more DLC" 

[Rudy Lis]

CptData wrote...

She's still Lieutenant Commander.
Shepard got a promotion by one rank (Staff Commander). That's it.

If Ash makes it to a Rear Admiral, then it'll be around 2230 or something

So there is Reason in the world. And in Germany, no less. East Germany. That's why I like you.

[Igib]

Aurora313 wrote...

Shepard and Ashley together on beach-side property of a sunday afternoon watching a son and a daughter playing together in the tide and molding sandcastles...

Aurora313 wrote...

Shepard, injured, but moving just tosses his equipment aside and sits down somewhere quiet lamenting on all the lost lives and the Love interest or best mate, depending on what you did, just stands at their side and places a hand on their shoulder to congratulate/comfort/relieve them.

I like the way you think, Aurora. :happy:

Modifié par Igib, 03 octobre 2012 - 12:28 .

[CptData]

Rudy Lis wrote...

CptData wrote...

She's still Lieutenant Commander.
Shepard got a promotion by one rank (Staff Commander). That's it.

If Ash makes it to a Rear Admiral, then it'll be around 2230 or something

So there is Reason in the world. And in Germany, no less. East Germany. That's why I like you.

LoL

Well, you still have to live with the idea that Ash is the new CO of the Normandy after Shepard went rogue. I just try to find out when she did commanding officer training - after all, she's a marine, no member of the navy. Then again, Shepard ALSO is a marine, and he got the Normandy. Guess it's caused by the Spectre status, otherwise, Shepard would never have become the Normandy's CO.

[survivor_686]

CptData wrote...

Rudy Lis wrote...

CptData wrote...

She's still Lieutenant Commander.
Shepard got a promotion by one rank (Staff Commander). That's it.

If Ash makes it to a Rear Admiral, then it'll be around 2230 or something

So there is Reason in the world. And in Germany, no less. East Germany. That's why I like you.

LoL

Well, you still have to live with the idea that Ash is the new CO of the Normandy after Shepard went rogue. I just try to find out when she did commanding officer training - after all, she's a marine, no member of the navy. Then again, Shepard ALSO is a marine, and he got the Normandy. Guess it's caused by the Spectre status, otherwise, Shepard would never have become the Normandy's CO

Note that its also not mentioned whether Shepard entered officer's training. Almost all the background mention him "enlisting" into the alliance military or his N7 status. Perhaps attaining an N7 status grants allows you to skip officer's training (its mentioned that N7 status entails leading fireteams into high-risk zones).

Still doesn't explain where Ashley attained Lt. Commander status though...

[Rudy Lis]

Saito404 wrote...

Yeah, that's much better. I rather this scene instead of random old man who tells stories about "one more DLC" 

Hmm. Impromptu, so don't shoot piano player or he will shoot back.
What I'd like to see in the ending. Normandy, damaged (more or less), smoking from one engine, descends carefully (sort of helicopter when it performing autorotation). On the way, we see how two shuttles, marking SR2 board numbers overtakes her and speed toward pile of rubble - former "beam thingie". Shuttles hovers, open doors and we see how either team-mates, if they alive (in case Shepard lost everybody - random marines) jumps out. After everyone besides pilots are disembarked, shuttles increase their altutide and begin circling around pile, sort of "scanning" area. Normandy made landing somewhere in nearest appropriate area, door opens and crew rushes out from it toward same rubble pile. Joker limping in the rear, escorted either by EDI, or Chakwas, or Adams. Next we see Mako with some soldiers on top, which stops near Joker and his escort and offers to ferry them closer. Here we can recognize someone familiar, either Zaeed, Jacob or some marine we knew (or don't). When Mako with Joker arrives, we see cround near pile, everybody searching for Shepard, guided by scans from pair of Kodiaks, encircling above. Somebody (let it be BFF, if he is alive) found something and notify people by yelling about it. For background music ME1 theme from "rubble search" would be best fitting, IMHO. Suspence changes into somewhat hopeful tune, more people rush toward BFF (or his replacement), begin to digging more actively (yet carefully). Alas, hopeful music to switches into sad one - because that's Anderson and he is severely wounded (yet alive). While Anderson is carefully carried to base of rubble pile, Kodiak survey team reports they have no signal or signature from another person. LI (if present), burst into tears on Joker's shoulder. People surrounding BFF suggest him to go down, but he refuses, shakes his head in disbelief, ignores suggestions and keeps looking. Shuttles perform a landing nearby, one of them ferries Anderson and Chakwas to Normandy's sick bay. Even more sad variant of ME1 theme plays, camera's pan shows many people around, shaking their heads or sitting on ground and wrapping their heads with their hands - total dispair, simply put. BFF finds some small hole between rubble and tries to look inside. Unsuccessful, he tries to put his hand inside to search area. Failure - omnitool stuck, so he throws away omnitool and place his hand inside. Now camera switches pan onto Shepard's first person view as BFF hand taps over place and Shepard grabs that hand with his at the moment when BFF's hand was already on the way out. It would be good if music background would change on place where in ME1 Shepard was found running over the rubble. BFF grips Shepard's hand and yells like crazy that Shepard is found. Crowd rushes on top, more or less swiftly clears pile only to find severely maimed Shepard, with broken, disfigured limbs, ribs, jaws, damaged throat, etc with some implants sticking on top, with fried skin, and crazily moving eyes, suggesting he suffered serious concussion and barely understands what's going on. LI is hold on place near Joker, to prevent interruptions or possible damage. When she sees Shepard, she horrified and I'd prefer to see that scene from Shepard's FP view again. He moved through a "corridor-alike" wall of people, some of whom he (well, player), recognize, some not, at the end (LI meeting, if present) - blackout.
Shepard's survival, IMHO, should be based mostly on Player's wish, if player wants, Shepard could die while still under rubble and BFF will find Shepard by himself. Shepard could die while moved "in corridor", seeing reapers "corpses" (well, 2km corpse) or Shepard could live. That's on Player, not EMS. If player choose Shepard to live, then after blackout scene where Shepard is in hospital's bed, with LI or BFF or, I dunno, Joker and Chakwas sitting near and talking. tl;dr - he is alive, but in no condition to fight or do something that slowly limp toward restroom. Last ditch suicide option IMHO should be present as well.

CptData wrote...

Well, you still have to live with the idea that Ash is the new CO of the Normandy after Shepard went rogue.

Well, what happens here is your territory. Just don't make it more crazy than it already is. Make it believable, I know you can.

CptData wrote...

I just try to find out when she did commanding officer training - after all, she's a marine, no member of the navy. Then again, Shepard ALSO is a marine, and he got the Normandy. Guess it's caused by the Spectre status, otherwise, Shepard would never have become the Normandy's CO.

To what branch Anderson belongs? Navy? But what he did on ground as "spec-op"?

survivor_686 wrote...

Note that its also not mentioned whether Shepard entered officer's training. Almost all the background mention him "enlisting" into the alliance military or his N7 status. Perhaps attaining an N7 status grants allows you to skip officer's training (its mentioned that N7 status entails leading fireteams into high-risk zones).

Nuh-uh. N7 program is for officers only. So Shepard has to be officer to attend it. That's why Anderson's case pisses me off - graduated 2nd Lt AND full-fledged N7 at 20 y.o.? For off-unit program which N7 is, terns for study should be 12-16 weeks each course, thus resulting in 21-28 months. How they hell he suppose to gain his officer's rank?

Enlistment is strange for me as well, as foreigner, enlistment means "enlisted", join non-officer service. Unless some canadians can't tell thing and named any form of joining service as "enlistment".
Unless Alliance utilized Wehrmacht system and sent all officers candidates to serve some time on all stages below officer.

survivor_686 wrote...

Still doesn't explain where Ashley attained Lt. Commander status though...

Nowhere. She could be promoted to 2nd Lt during war, outside of any form of academy, sort of "by superior power", but that's her top rank she could achieve. Then - pweaze, wewcome to the academy. After the war, of course. If she stays on Normandy, I see zero reason for next promotion, in given universe there is no example where some of your subordinates leads something.

Modifié par Rudy Lis, 03 octobre 2012 - 01:16 .

[survivor_686]

Rudy Lis wrote...

survivor_686 wrote...

Note that its also not mentioned whether Shepard entered officer's training. Almost all the background mention him "enlisting" into the alliance military or his N7 status. Perhaps attaining an N7 status grants allows you to skip officer's training (its mentioned that N7 status entails leading fireteams into high-risk zones).

Nuh-uh. N7 program is for officers only. So Shepard has to be officer to attend it. That's why Anderson's case pisses me off - graduated 2nd Lt AND full-fledged N7 at 20 y.o.? For off-unit program which N7 is, terns for study should be 12-16 weeks each course, thus resulting in 21-28 months. How they hell he suppose to gain his officer's rank?

Enlistment is strange for me as well, as foreigner, enlistment means "enlisted", join non-officer service. Unless some canadians can't tell thing and named any form of joining service as "enlistment".
Unless Alliance utilized Wehrmacht system and sent all officers candidates to serve some time on all stages below officer.

survivor_686 wrote...

Still doesn't explain where Ashley attained Lt. Commander status though...

Nowhere. She could be promoted to 2nd Lt during war, outside of any form of academy, sort of "by superior power", but that's her top rank she could achieve. Then - pweaze, wewcome to the academy. After the war, of course. If she stays on Normandy, I see zero reason for next promotion, in given universe there is no example where some of your subordinates leads something.

Actually in Canada, enlisting means joining the military without going to officer's training. Also "Word of God" (ie: Patrick Weekes, one of the writers) states that N7 training isn't limited to officers.

A plausible scenario could be that Ashley or Shepard received a battlefield promotion, or promotion be dead man's boots and then kept that rank for reasons unknown. I guess the entire command team got blown up or something...

[CptData]

@ Rudy:

Anderson belongs to the navy branch, otherwise he would have hold the rank of a major instead of a captain and wouldn't end as an admiral.

Ashley is a marine, means, her final rank should be General. That, of course, works out only in case she doesn't switch the branch. However, maybe she DID change the branch while attending officer school in those two years. That could even explain why she still had a NCO rank in ME2 and suddenly got a CO rank in ME3 - she kept her old rank until finishing officer school and got promoted right after that.
My finger's on Anderson, by the way. Maybe he wanted Ashley (or Kaidan) to be the CO of his flagship. I can ignore any issues with Kaidan since he's not alive in my headcanon and for Ash I got a nice workaround to explain her rank. Which basically means Anderson helped her a) to get into officer school and pulled some strings so she got promoted by two ranks above normal graduates.

However, in some way it also feels like nepotism and that Ash didn't deserve this rank. Well, maybe it explains why she's so different in ME3 as well ... who knows. I also have an idea for that.

[Rudy Lis]

survivor_686 wrote...

Actually in Canada, enlisting means joining the military without going to officer's training.

Well, that's what I meant. Enlisted="non-officers".

survivor_686 wrote...

Also "Word of God" (ie: Patrick Weekes, one of the writers) states that N7 training isn't limited to officers.

Wikia states otherwise. Since I don't have ME at hand, I can't run it and check Codex, but I think it states same thing. So unless Patrick Weekes answers on all of my "uncomfortable questions", I'll consider everything what was said outside ME games nonsense. As well as some things said in ME2 and many things said in ME3.

survivor_686 wrote...

A plausible scenario could be that Ashley or Shepard received a battlefield promotion, or promotion be dead man's boots and then kept that rank for reasons unknown. I guess the entire command team got blown up or something...

Would you like to fly a plane where pilot is ex steward who was the only survivor of former crew? Or went to hospital to a doctor who is was janitor few days ago and was the only one who survived from whole personnel?
Battlefield promotion, since we here speak about officers, work one step up, from NCO to officer. If Ashley in her 25 was GC, then Shepard, apparently, should be at least same. Explain me how from 2nd Lt he raised to LtCdr in 4 years? All - battlefield promotions?
So most probable scenario - bioware don't know ****, don't give a ****, too lazy, greedy or proud to welcome somebody with military experience or just to spent couple days (preferable months) in libraties and draw a goddamn timeline!

This discussion may be continued after ~3 hours, I have to get to home, you know. CYA.

[survivor_686]

Rudy Lis wrote...

survivor_686 wrote...

Actually in Canada, enlisting means joining the military without going to officer's training.

Well, that's what I meant. Enlisted="non-officers".

survivor_686 wrote...

Also "Word of God" (ie: Patrick Weekes, one of the writers) states that N7 training isn't limited to officers.

Wikia states otherwise. Since I don't have ME at hand, I can't run it and check Codex, but I think it states same thing. So unless Patrick Weekes answers on all of my "uncomfortable questions", I'll consider everything what was said outside ME games nonsense. As well as some things said in ME2 and many things said in ME3.

survivor_686 wrote...

A plausible scenario could be that Ashley or Shepard received a battlefield promotion, or promotion be dead man's boots and then kept that rank for reasons unknown. I guess the entire command team got blown up or something...

Would you like to fly a plane where pilot is ex steward who was the only survivor of former crew? Or went to hospital to a doctor who is was janitor few days ago and was the only one who survived from whole personnel?
Battlefield promotion, since we here speak about officers, work one step up, from NCO to officer. If Ashley in her 25 was GC, then Shepard, apparently, should be at least same. Explain me how from 2nd Lt he raised to LtCdr in 4 years? All - battlefield promotions?
So most probable scenario - bioware don't know ****, don't give a ****, too lazy, greedy or proud to welcome somebody with military experience or just to spent couple days (preferable months) in libraties and draw a goddamn timeline!

This discussion may be continued after ~3 hours, I have to get to home, you know. CYA.

lol. I'd think comparing Ashley situation to that of a fligth steward might be tad excessive, but I get your point. But frankly its the best way I can head-canon it right now.

As for N series training, I believe that its the Alliance's special forces program and N7 is the final stage. Using modern day militaries as reference, I 'd think it be rather odd to limit special forces training to officers only. Perhaps N7 ranking comes with an officer's commission to boot as well? Who knows? Bioware is rather vague on this point

Yeah its highly likely that Bioware didn't actually bring in any military experts to help with the terminology, which is rather hilarious given that Edomonton is the home of thehighest military authority for Western Canada. Fo Shame Bioware.

[Wilkco]

CptData wrote...

Rudy Lis wrote...

Wow, what a story! Let me guess, Ashley is Rear-Admiral in 2187? Oh, wait, she is Admiralissimus. General-Feldmarshal-Admiralissimus, am I right?

She's still Lieutenant Commander.
Shepard got a promotion by one rank (Staff Commander). That's it.

If Ash makes it to a Rear Admiral, then it'll be around 2230 or something

i see ash getting promoted then being demoted back down  a rank when some cocky new admiral bad mouths her family and she floors him with a right hook and walks off with shepard just standing  there laughing at the admiral out cold on the floor