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[survivor_686]

Umm....no offence hotdogbsg....that picture strays very deep into uncanny valley.

[CptData]

She looks a bit mad

And does Ash fire at Allers? O.o

 

 

Garrus & Ashley

Garrus: So, my sniping score's 96%. What's yours?

Ashley: I rather go out and do some real shooting, Garrus.

Garrus: I wasn't talking about the simulator. Did I ever tell you about "Archangel"?

Ashley: That story again? You did.

Garrus: Well, in those good ol' days I collected marks on my rifle. One mark for a hit, one "minus" for a miss. And when Shepard recruited me for his suicide mission, I had nearly a hundred marks and only a few misses. Four misses out of a hundred shots fired.

Ashley: Impressive. *snickers*

Garrus: What?

Ashley: Nothing. Just "impressive". *grabs for her Black Widow".

Garrus: Too bad I lost my sniper rifle somehow later *sigh*

Ashley: I kept mine *counts marks*

Garrus: How many "misses" do you have?

Ashley: Hold on, I'm still counting ... seventytwo, seventythree ...

Garrus: All misses?

Ashley: No ...

Garrus: My other rifle doesn't show my impressive rate. I think I messed it up when doing that shooting with Shepard on the Citadel.

Ashley: There. 104 hits, 3 misses. And that's just one side of the rifle ... *turns Widow* ... there *counts*

Garrus: The Black Widow is a bit bigger than my ol' one ...

Ashley: It also requires more balls than your old rifle. Believe me. The recoil feels as if you get hit by a truck.

Garrus: I could handle this. But I like finesse over brutal killing power. After all, I'm no Krogan.

Ashley: Of course. Well, I'm done - both sides together sum up to 198 kills and 5 misses. Which gives me an efficiency of more than 97%.

Garrus: Impressive.

Ashley: Did I mention when I joined the Alliance military I was trained with a shotgun, the total opposite of a sniper rifle? Too bad I lost my boomstick on Virmire ...

[survivor_686]

in ME1 I used to send Ashley ahead with a shotgun. Know the last mission on Feros, the one with all the asari clones spamming throw on you?

 

The only way I got through that mission was sending Ash in front with shield boost, immunity, a spectre grade shotgun and hammerhead rounds. My 'manly' shepard stuck right behind her.

 

in ME1 allies were kind of schizo when it came to sniper rifles. But Ash with a boomstick....

[DWH1982]

I always bring Ash and Kaidan along for that mission.

 

If you pump up his biotics, Kaidan can be particularly useful for incapacitating the clone before she can cause any damage. Using "Lift" on her the second she appears is a favorite.

 

I hear people say all the time how Ash and/or Kaidan are useless in ME1. I honestly think those people aren't investing in their skills properly. Ash is a tank who can rip through enemies while Kaidan throws them around like rag dolls.

[Demonique]

People are being disrespectful shitbags about Kimberly over on Reddit - http://www.reddit.co...taken_with_the/

 

Someone posted pictures they had taken with the actors/face models who took part in the Mass Effect Cast Cosplay and people made 'who's the volus' and 'man the harpoons' comments about her. Luckily, the rest of the posters don't agree with them and they're being thumbed down

[themikefest]

 

I hear people say all the time how Ash and/or Kaidan are useless in ME1. I honestly think those people aren't investing in their skills properly. Ash is a tank who can rip through enemies while Kaidan throws them around like rag dolls.

She's not useless for me. I use her on every mission in ME1 and have no problem.

 

In ME3, I do the least amount of missions to get her back. She is a mini tank and when I give her the Black Widow, she kills everything in sight. With her and James together, they're unstoppable.

[Aurora313]

Ash's B-day next week...

 

Just FYI.

[survivor_686]

Ash's B-day next week...

 

Just FYI.

Umm...you may be off by a month, according the ME wikia.

 

"Born on April 14th, 2158 on the colony world Sirona in the 61 Ursae Majoris system, Ashley Madeline Williams comes from a large family that includes a long line of Alliance soldiers"

[Aurora313]

Oh.......

 

Some reason I thought it was April not May....

[survivor_686]

Oh.......

 

Some reason I thought it was April not May....

Dont let that stop us! Let May 14th, be Ash day!

[RZIBARA]

I think Ash is awesome, but I don't know if Gwen would be too happy if she knew that

[DWH1982]

When I was sending out constituent response letters at work today, I noticed that one of the letters we were replying to was from a constituent named "Ashley Williams."

 

I got a chuckle out of it, even though the middle name obviously isn't the same - our constituent has a "K" as a middle initial.

[survivor_686]

In commemoration of Ash's 'not-birthday' (I mean that in spot), here is V1 of the Ash 'Batte-pack' for testing. what it does:

 

- Removes the ridiculous faceshield from the typhoon

- Replaces the horrendous blue 'suit' with Getorex's piece (credit to Getorex) whilst on Normandy

- Replaces the horrendous blue suit' with the Ajax suit alliance texture (Tarkov33's Spectre Ajax Textures)

- Replaces the horrible pink suit with the a custom texture and hazard armour from ME1 (a call back to the suits of ME1)

 

As always place make backups. I would appreciate it, if someone gave me a heads-up whether the instructions make sense and how well the MOD files work.

 

Link: https://mega.co.nz/#!cwJVhCAL!gPddvRBzPstapGdLS5RdiQuqeG3rd1pIfcgQn-aaIFc

 

If all goes well, I should be able to post the files on Nexus Mods sometime this weekend

[survivor_686]

By the way here is what the results should look like.

 

Ashley armors work in game, but am right now struggling through creating a squad preview image for them. My filleting skills are crap.

 

[survivor_686]

Please let me know whether or not the MODs work

[CptData]

Time for me for a small comeback

 

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Javik: In my cycle, we didn't mate with each other on board of our ships.

Garrus: Well, in our cycle, we do. Did I tell you the reach-and-flexibility story?

Javik: It was about fighting, honing your senses and preparation for battle.

Garrus: And something else, Javik. Well, we do stuff like that. Desperate times and such. Why don't you give it a try?

Javik: I don't do that.

Ashley: *steps in* Hey you two. Why the sad face, Javik?

Javik: Sad face?

Garrus: In his cycle, they didn't mate with each other on board of their ships he says.

Ashley: Manly talk between you two then, ey? Well, I'll leave you alone-

Javik: Wait. You do mate with your commander, Williams.

Ashley: Errr ... you could name it like that ...

Javik: Does this help you to hone your senses for battle?

Garrus: He tries to find out why his cycle lost *snickers*

Ashley: I see. No, Javik, it doesn't "hone my senses for battle".

Javik: So, why do you insist to waste your strength for mating if you could use it for the war?

Ashley: It's no "waste" doing that. Javik, it raises your fighting spirit. Besides that, people in love do that.

Garrus: I didn't know humans are so much turian ... *snickers*

Javik: In my cycle, we had no concept of "love". At least not in its final days.

Ashley: Then you should start get used to.

Javik: So if mating and that emotion "love" are raising your fighting spirits and may help you to win this war - where can I get my mating partner?

Ashley: Uhh ... well ... in your case, it could be a bit difficult.

Garrus: ... with being the last of the Protheans and all ...

Ashley: Not to forget the only four-eyed species we have in our cycle are Batarians. Did you ever see a pretty one?

Garrus: And also I'm not sure if your anatomy supports ... you know. Doing the reach-and-flexibility-training.

Ashley: You do have a Johnson?

Javik: A "what"?

Ashley: Well ... that thing you need for mating.

Javik: Of course I do have a Xeloniphalicofrax. Every male Prothean has one.

Garrus: That's an odd name for that.

Javik: "Johnson" isn't any better.

Garrus: Also true. I got an idea.

Ashley: Spit it out, then!

Garrus: The only species able to mate with him AND get offspring out of that idea are the Collectors! All we need is to find a female one, hand it over to a smart Salarian, give it back whatever it's needed to make it a female Prothean and ...

Ashley: Your idea is dumb as apeshit.

Javik: ... plus Collectors are no true Protheans anymore ...

Garrus: ... the other idea is to throw Javik into a bunch of Asari. After all, he's a living God to them. Any idea what they want to do with him? I'm sure he has the reach.

Ashley: Sometimes, just sometimes, Garrus, I believe you're hanging out with Skipper too much. Sounds like one of his crazy ideas.

Javik: The Commander would never-

Ashley: Believe me, I know him more than you. He does have his five minutes every day.

Shepard: *comes in* Hey there. Who wants to join me? I just found a Gentlemen's Club on Vortex Five. Today with extra Turian Goodness - and as far as I know, they even got a helmetless Quarian! Come on, guys, wasting all the time here is madness!

Ashley: *facedesks*

[survivor_686]

I always like your dialogue, CptData, they are certainly entertaining.

 

Ok guys, here's a hard question:

 

Do you honestly see your Shepard and Ash being able to maintain a functional relationship after the Reaper war, (in a 100% post-destroy environment)?

 

- Lets be honest, we haven't really seen Shepard and Ash just be an 'ordinary' couple. Most of the time they been on a warship in a stressed-out environment, where they may have just turned to each other for comfort, because there was no one else.

 

- Given that Shepard is Ash's superior, I can't really see the Alliance leadership ignoring that question. As heroic Shepard may be, the fact of the matter is he is Ash's superior and most military's look askance at such a situation

 

- Do modern military allow military couples to serve together? Would you see Ash wanting to serve under Shepard and perhaps be overshadowed by him?

 

Any thoughts?

[DWH1982]

I like to think their relationship works out, but in "real life" it would pose a number of problems.

 

The Alliance regs thing really isn't a problem, though, because they're both Spectres. At most all the Alliance can do is kick them off of the Normandy, or in a worst case scenario ask that one or both resign from the Alliance military. I don't think that's such a big deal for Shepard - I think post Reaper War the Council would probably be willing to provide him with another ship. Or he could just go to the turians. Or the asari. Pretty much everyone owes him a favor. So I think he'd just leave the Alliance himself and let Ash stay, and work out an arrangement for a ship with someone else. The Alliance might be a bit steamed when they figure out what he did, but, really - who cares?

 

 In my head canon, the Alliance post war doesn't have much of a choice in the matter, actually. Some sort of AI is necessary for an SR-2 class stealth frigate to run at full efficiency, and they needed help from the Council and the salarians for getting EDI reactivated. Part of the deal for the Council allowing an unshackled AI - a clear violation of C-Space law - on an Alliance ship was that it had to be commanded by a Spectre, and it was clearly implied that it would be Shepard, at least for a few years.

 

As for long term, I always see it working out this way - Shepard commands the Normandy with Ash on board for 3-4 years or so. He leaves to take a desk job with the Council, overseeing Spectre operations and Ash takes over the Normandy. After a few more years, Ash takes a position that's mostly based on the Citadel, and they get to work out a more normal relationship. I imagine there are some adjustments, but, again, since it's fantasy, we'll say that they're able to make the transition.

[CptData]

I always like your dialogue, CptData, they are certainly entertaining.

 

Ok guys, here's a hard question:

 

Do you honestly see your Shepard and Ash being able to maintain a functional relationship after the Reaper war, (in a 100% post-destroy environment)?

 

- Lets be honest, we haven't really seen Shepard and Ash just be an 'ordinary' couple. Most of the time they been on a warship in a stressed-out environment, where they may have just turned to each other for comfort, because there was no one else.

 

- Given that Shepard is Ash's superior, I can't really see the Alliance leadership ignoring that question. As heroic Shepard may be, the fact of the matter is he is Ash's superior and most military's look askance at such a situation

 

- Do modern military allow military couples to serve together? Would you see Ash wanting to serve under Shepard and perhaps be overshadowed by him?

 

Any thoughts?

 

Sure, why not? I mean, ME1 was pretty much pre-war. Sure, they had a crisis at hands, but besides that, their life was a quite normal one for military people. They did their duty and didn't had the pressure of saving the entire galaxy on their shoulders (mostly because they didn't know the full truth and danger yet).

 

Things got worse in ME2 and were quite awful in ME3, yeah, but the emotional basis for Ash and Shepard was what they had in ME1. At least that's my idea, of course.

 

 

I'm not sure if both simply could sit down and do nothing. Shepard might want to enjoy a LONG vacation ("the galaxy owes me some") and Ash will join him, but both will always answer the call of duty. And since the galaxy is in a quite bad shape post-war, they simply won't have too much free time. That even might add some more load to their relationship.

 

The "fraternization stuff" won't come into play. First of all: Shepard and Ashley are both Spectres. Yes, they're still Alliance officers, they might even stay on the same ship post-war. But I don't think Hackett or some other brass is going to kick them out for their relationship, just - well, they're gawddamn heroes and they simply deserve some special treatment. If anyone is questioning 'em, Ash/Shepard simply could quit. That's something the Alliance won't risk.

 

In the long run, Ashley will leave her own mark in history, being Shepard's equal and all. Too bad ME3 didn't show it - instead, we got a less-than-logical promotion for Ash by 5 ranks from NCO to CO. That's something that doesn't work. Would have been much better if Ash had a more prominent role in ME3 like she had in ME1, just to show that she's an equal to Shepard. Pretty much the same like BW did with Garrus.

[CptData]

Ashley: Oh my, this is awful.

Shepard: Sure? It took a while to make it.

Ashley: What exactly is this?

Shepard: It's a drawing of the Normandy! Can't you see it? It even has a cockpit!

Ashley: Oh ... the Normandy. Yes, now I can see her too. And you did it?

Shepard: Sure thing. Do you like it?

Ashley: I wouldn't say "like". It's special, and you made it. So it's good. I guess so. *snickers*

Shepard: You don't like it.

Ashley: That's not what I said. It's just "special".

Shepard: *sigh* You're right. It is awful.

Ashley: Don't be sad, Skipper. You can save the galaxy and kick some serious ass. But when it comes to arts, ... well ... no.

Shepard: I can't dance either. Or write good poems.

Ashley: And still you're a hero for some trillion guys out there. Don't try to be someone you aren't.

Shepard: Like an artist, huh? I got it, Ash *smirks*

Ashley: Just be yourself. Be Commander Shepard. And last time I checked, that's something you're very good at.

Shepard: Does this also involve a certain new XO from the Normandy?

Ashley: Especially the new XO!

Joker: See, guys, I love being the pilot of the Normandy, and I totally understand you two love to flirt with each other, even while we're in the middle of some delicate operation or while I'm trying to not hit random stuff in the emptiness of space. Just ... leave the cockpit before doing the CO-XO-stuff nobody wants to see here.

Ashley: Is it just me or is the discipline of our crew a bit ... below average?

Shepard: Maybe it's just you.

Ashley: Nah.

 

Yes, I know, totally nonsense scene. Just need to get back into writing mood, ya know?

[DWH1982]

You know, I was thinking last night, and it occurred to me - how much do we really know about how most Spectres operate?

 

Do most Spectres even command a military ship? It seems to me that Shepard might be unusual. Basically, that he was given the Normandy and its crew because of circumstances and because of its stealth design.

 

For all we know, most Spectres are expected to either find a ship and crew of their own, or they just travel in single pilot civilian shuttles. My guess, honestly, would be that most of the Spectres who are not publicly known as such probably just use a shuttle. They're generally lone wolfs anyway (Shepard is unusual in that regard too) and a shuttle would allow them to travel without drawing attention to themselves.

 

In short: If the Alliance threatened to take away the Normandy from Shepard because of his relationship with Ash, he could just do what most Spectres probably do and find his own way to get around. Yes, he'd lose some resources, but he'd also no longer have any reason to help the Alliance with their special projects when they ask, which probably is something the Alliance would like to avoid.

[themikefest]

 

 

 

- Do modern military allow military couples to serve together? Would you see Ash wanting to serve under Shepard and perhaps be overshadowed by him?

 

Any thoughts?

No.

 

When I was in the military in the 80's and 90's both husband and wife served in separate units. I don't believe its any diferent today than when I was in. I agree with that policy.

[CptData]

Hackett: So your decision is final, commander?

Ashley: Yes, sir. I'm an Alliance officer, nothing else. I quit the Spectres.

Hackett: No one ever doubted your loyalty, Williams. Why that decision?

Ashley: Because there's one person in the galaxy who doubted me. And that's me. I can't do both jobs without feeling conflicted.

Hackett: I can't see a conflict.

Ashley: Not today, maybe. But tomorrow? Yes, for sure. As long as I'm a Spectre, the Council comes first, then the Alliance. And despite we're part of said Council, one day they might issue me a mission conflicting with my loyalty towards the Alliance. I wonder how Shepard is able to deal with that.

Hackett: I can see your point. And since you're no Spectre anymore, can you follow orders?

Ashley: Aye, sir.

Hackett: Think about it, change your decision. We still need you as a Spectre out there, Williams. Especially since Shepard isn't fully recovered yet. Somebody has to keep that fragile peace we've fought so long for. That somebody is you.

Ashley: I'm a soldier, not a diplomat, admiral.

Hackett: A few years ago, a young commander told me the same. And that very same commander ended a century old war between the Quarians and the Geth. He saved the Krogan species. He even brokered an alliance between them and the Turians. And all the time he claimed to be just an "ordinary soldier".

Ashley: Maybe he just did what he thought would be his duty, sir?

Hackett: Exactly. And now I ask you, Williams: what do you think is your duty now?

Ashley: Damnit. You got me.

Hackett: That's what I wanted to hear. Now get out and do your duty, commander.

Ashley: *sigh* Aye aye. Anything else?

Hackett: I heard a certain Turian was asking for your support. Some very high ranking Turian, to be precise.

Ashley: That Turian isn't named "Garrus Vakarian", isn't he?

Hackett: That's up to you to find out. Dismissed, commander.*salutes*

Ashley: Thank you, sir *salutes*

 

Ashley's conflict of loyalties may play a bigger role in my headcanon ... and why the Spectres are a tad too powerful and dangerous idea in the long run.

[P. Domi]

Long time I don't post here, but I when I read the question about whether the Alliance military would allow their relationship, I thought that as long as Shepard and Williams served in different units it wouldn't be a problem. I don't have a military background, but it's good to read themikefest's confirmation of this fact. 

 

Regarding that question on ship command for Spectres, I do agree with DWH1982 this probably was a special case, since Shepard already was the second in command on the Normandy. I would think that Anderson's stepping down to give Shep the command of the Normandy was something he discussed with Admiral Hackett and the Navy brass, not something he just decided to do after talking to Udina (who is a civilian and had no saying in the issue). This was discussed and agreed upon off screen, so we can only conjecture.

 

It would make sense that Hackett already had a great deal of trust in Shepard before the ME1 events, since he's heard discussing his candidacy to the Spectres during the intro. 

 

Other Spectres were recruited from alien militaries and law enforcement (Codex), which doesn't always translate into being in command of a vessel but comparable training and field experience. 

[Aurora313]

My two cents: 

 

As Alliance soldiers of the command rank, neither would be allowed to serve in the same command. 

 

As SpecTRes, they can give the rules a big middle finger and ignore that particular policy. 

 

In terms of emotions:

During a war, things get very high-strung. They relationship is based on grief, mourning, mutual respect, interest and passion. After the war, they need to figure out what exactly kind of relations they want outside of constant combat and violence. While I do believe they can and eventually will be very happy together. However, they need adventure in their relationship as well to keep it strong. Whether that's because of their fierce natures, or simply from their lives as soldiers or some combination of both is up to the person holding the pen.

 

After the war is over, yes, they will have difficulty initially with their relationship. Perhaps it'll break apparent entirely, and they need to rebuild it from scratch, but I don't see two souls who have been through so much hell together breaking apart so easily. Perhaps they're find happiness, or perhaps they're never be happy without one another. As I said earlier, its really up to the person holding the pen. 

 

That being said, in my own personal verse: Shepard goes independent anyway after he recovers. He leaves the Alliance with the post-recognition rank of 'Commander' and fully dedicates himself to Spectres. So, the whole fraternisation thing doesn't really apply. Secondly, his relationship with Ashley does suffer due to issues with PTSD, conflicting interests, goals and mopping up the war's aftermath. Eventually however, it does smooth out and they are married in basically everything but name. Its not particularly healthy, in fact, its pretty pathetically co-dependant on Shepard's part... then again, I tend to pile n the mental agony for my characters, so who knows. 

 

 

Summing this all up: Its really up to the individual writer about whether the relationship is maintained or becomes a train wreak... I prefer them together even if its not particularly happy.