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Lt. Commander Ashley Williams thread: "Don't 'Ash' me!" We're Back Baby!


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#49551
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It is. Too bad we got it back after we mostly ran out of stuff to talk about.

True. But I'm sure we can always find something. Someone is bound to be working on a fanfic or canon story, etc. Or if all else fails, we can speculate on the teaser of a teaser for the next ME.



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Yeah, sure that.

 

I'm not sure about ME4. Actually, if BW listens to the fanbase, they'll support importing old savegames from ME3 to set up the universe, so the player can continue "his" or "her" universe s/he created with ME1 - 3. That's the bare minimum I want to see here. But of course, I wish for a full reboot with a more consistent story, character development and so on ...

 

Also, if ME4 supports importing old savegames, I hope BW takes that chance and explains the fate of each character of the first trilogy. Especially I want to see what Shep/Ash became after the war if both survived and are LIs.



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Anyone heard of the 'Lost Ark' theory for ME4?



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It's... Ash!

 

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@von uber

 

Ah..A fellow fan of Getorex's work?

 

@CptData

 

Based on what they revealed at e3 so far, I'd say it be at least another two years before they release ME4.

 

I'd think they'd wait at least another four years before they release a 'remastered' edition of the ME series.



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Ah..A fellow fan of Getorex's work?

 

 

Yep. Shame I'm not romancing her (or shame she wasn't bi in ME1 like she was supposed to be).



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@von uber

 

I can see Bioware deciding not to go down that route in a bid to avoid the butch female soldier stereotype....



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@von uber

 

I can see Bioware deciding not to go down that route in a bid to avoid the butch female soldier stereotype....

 

The dialogue is all there in ME1, so.. wonder what made them change their minds?

Any I thought I'd see what it was like with an old shep I had saved before Chronos:

 

http://forum.bioware...ots/?p=16726228



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I'm neutral on whether they should have made Ash bi from the start, since I honestly don't think it would have changed her character that much. But I do think it was the right decision not to establish her as bi in ME3. It would have been nice for people who wanted Fem Shep/Ash romances, but on the other hand, having "set" orientations keeps the characters from all seeming "Shepardsexual."

 

I do have to wonder why they decided that Kaidan is bi and not Ash, though. There was a pretty negative reaction in the Ash fan forums when the idea came up (it really split the fan base, at least on the BSN) so I have to wonder if maybe that played a role. That said, only having one of the two "original" marines as bi seems also seems a little more realistic, and helps keep them separate characters, which I appreciate. They became too interchangeable after ME1.



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"Ash, its always been you"

"When we didn't see eye-to-eye, I gave you as much time as I could."

"But that's done now. I'm not doing this without you. I need you."



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Anyone heard of the 'Lost Ark' theory for ME4?

 

Is that the theory about ME4 being focused on a Reaper War defeat contingency plan where a ship of survivors from all the races, is put into cryo and sent on a journey through Deep Space and into the Andromeda galaxy?



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I gotta say... I wouldn't be too enthusiastic about that. At least not the idea.

 

I want to stay in the Milky Way. If they're going to change the setting that much, they should just do a new IP instead of calling it Mass Effect.



#49563
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Von Uber, Ash and Alenko were not supposed to be "bi" in ME1. What happened is that there was a mistake with the scripts when they were recording and some Fem-Shep only lines were also read by Mark Meer, and some Male-Shep lines were also recorded for Jennifer Hale. Although the lines made it  to the game sound files, there was no in-game event to trigger them. This was a really funny mistake, and the both VA's have talked about it in several interviews.



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Is that the theory about ME4 being focused on a Reaper War defeat contingency plan where a ship of survivors from all the races, is put into cryo and sent on a journey through Deep Space and into the Andromeda galaxy?

 

Like an Space Arc? ;)

 

Dunno if that's working in this universe, thanks to the limited FTL range of each ship. Besides that, I rather want to see the galaxy post!war - based on decisions in the first trilogy. Either Shepard's dead or alive, the Reapers controlled or hybrids ... you name it.



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@CptData

 

Sounds like Bioware would have to write three different 'games' altogether. Though do bear in mind that according the Codex 'less than 1%' of the Milky Way had been surveyed or explored in ME1.

 

though Bioware has contradicted the codex before though...



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Sounds like Bioware would have to write three different 'games' altogether. Though do bear in mind that according the Codex 'less than 1%' of the Milky Way had been surveyed or explored in ME1.

 

though Bioware has contradicted the codex before though...

 

Not really. Main differences?

 

Destruction: Shepard may have / have not survived the end of the war. The Reapers are gone.

Cure / no cure: either the Krogans have their own realm with a couple of systems and Wrex/Wreav in charge, or they're still fighting for survival in their home system with no hope for a cure. They're still everywhere in the universe and a lot of them are still mercenaries.

Quarians: if helped, they're still there. If not, only a few small colonies survived that war, and they do no longer have a fleet.

Geth: not gone, thanks to some surviving Geth post-war in a remote system not touched by the Reapers or the de-reaperize-shockwave. They helped to reboot the other Geth.

 

Synthesis: Shepard's dead. Reapers returned to the core of the galaxy and work as some kind of guardians. Not much of 'em is heard so far.

Cure / no cure: Krogans are cured always, thanks to the synthesis magic.

Quarians: if Shepard decided for 'em, they rebuilt the Geth. if Shepard decided against them, the few survivors are incorporated into the new Geth realm and full citizens as well.

Geth: either got rebuilt or survived the war.

 

Control: Identical to Destruction in most cases, except Shepard's fate (always new avatar of the Reapers) and the Reapers returned to the core of the galaxy, no longer interacting with the galaxy.

 

The BIGGEST difference in my eyes is the texture!mod for synthesis ending and how to explain the whereabouts of all those races influenced by Shepard's decision. Since nearly no decision is absolutely killing a species (except the Rachni), the Geth/Quarians/Krogans are still around in the next game even if Shepard decided against them.



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Yeah, sure that.

 

I'm not sure about ME4. Actually, if BW listens to the fanbase, they'll support importing old savegames from ME3 to set up the universe, so the player can continue "his" or "her" universe s/he created with ME1 - 3. That's the bare minimum I want to see here. But of course, I wish for a full reboot with a more consistent story, character development and so on ...

 

Also, if ME4 supports importing old savegames, I hope BW takes that chance and explains the fate of each character of the first trilogy. Especially I want to see what Shep/Ash became after the war if both survived and are LIs.

eek...idk Cpt....this sounds too good to be true...I saw the very vague meagre stuff they showed in E3 just now (was ill for most of the week and missed the livestreams) and its too little to predict where exactly this new game will drop us in. all things considered, it could very well have nothing to do with shepard's story. what you're asking for  - the fate of each character, importing saves - sounds like stuff that brings concrete closure to shepard's story. these things sounds like it will or it should (if done correctly) make it so that shepard has a heavy impact on the new game. barring the fact that the basic outcome involving the reapers will or should have some influence in the new game, i dont think much else will. that's just my opinion and i'm not bashing you in anyway. but sincerely, the time for these smaller details becoming fully weaved parts of a story...is gone.. and i dont think bioware will give a heavy nod to shepard in this new game, if anything at all. 

 

ideally, i'd love these things as well. but i've grown to have as little expectations of bioware as possible. and my idea for this new game, is that they'll just plop us down in some planet, the very same way ME1 began. that said, look how that worked out for us. =\

 

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#49568
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I can see an arguement for both. While it would be nice to have complete closure for everyone and the fate of the galaxy, I will be perfectly happy if the only thing that carries over are some of your major decisions; i.e. Cure the Genophage, Destroy, Control, Sysnthesis, fate of the Geth and Quarians. Things like that I would like to carry over and I can be left to canonize (or whatever) what happened to Shepard and friends.


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#49569
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Is it just me, or if  you stop the image at :58 (in what appears to be a galaxy map shot), the character on the far right seems to have the head of a salarian...



#49570
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Is this the Ashley thread from the old forums? Been searching for it on the new forums, couldn't find the name.

 

This one http://social.biowar...on/24889/&p=301



#49571
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Is this the Ashley thread from the old forums? Been searching for it on the new forums, couldn't find the name.

 

This one http://social.biowar...on/24889/&p=301

 

That is the link to the Ash group which was started when the Character section was originally closed. But this is open again, so we have been talking here.



#49572
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Aye. Ashley's thread is back in action, 'though the action is quite reduced thanks to the lack of any news on Ash. :(



#49573
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I've been doing a playthrough with my Shepard and squadmates only use one power and I use no weapons. I have used Ashley and Liara together since the coup. It the first time I've had both characters together for more than a couple of missions. I will most likely use the two for the rest of the game. For Ashley's one power, she is using concussive shot



#49574
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I think if casey Hudson rly wanted to, he could make the game in a way to accommodate ME3 save files, and by effect accommodate the decisions people have made. if we wanted more Ash, we'd have saved her on Virmire, and then not shoot her in ME3, and so we'd get more Ash. the same applies for everyone. and some things could not have been changed in ME3. like Jacob, Mordin, Thane etc. in that aspect, kinda makes it easier.

 

personally I'd love to see Ash in the next game. but this next game is, as they said, gonna be based on brand new content based in what we know as a general "mass effect "world". so the only things I guess we can confirm, is the major species, humans, asari, turians, krogans. and mass relays. everything else seems to be in progress by Hudson.



#49575
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Aye. Ashley's thread is back in action, 'though the action is quite reduced thanks to the lack of any news on Ash. :(

Yes, I can understand that, it's too bad really. As time progresses I've gradually lost interest in Mass Effect as Shepard's story is over and no more Ashley.

I do play it at times and whenever I start a new playthrough, it's always Ash I romance.