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[Made Nightwing]

ChaplainTappman wrote...

Aurora and Nightwing, those are both awesome.

Also, I'm a 25 year old dude, I'm an infantry soldier, and I'm not afraid to admit I totally want a stuffed hanar.

17 year old guy, amateur kickboxer, Officer Selection Board in three weeks, and I would fight you to the death over posession of that stuffed hanar

TOP Ash coming...



Just love the lighting on Virmire!

Modifié par Made Nightwing, 11 septembre 2011 - 09:34 .

[Eyeshield21]

I APPROVE!!!!!!!
sorry, I meant the first thing on this article, not the death thing, my bad:D

Modifié par Eyeshield21, 11 septembre 2011 - 10:18 .

[ChaplainTappman]

Eyeshield21 wrote...

I APPROVE!!!!!!!

Of what? Ash, or the fight to the death?

Seriously though, Bioware. Stuffed hanar. Get on it.

[Made Nightwing]

ChaplainTappman wrote...

Eyeshield21 wrote...

I APPROVE!!!!!!!

Of what? Ash, or the fight to the death?

Seriously though, Bioware. Stuffed hanar. Get on it.

Agreed, I need some good Christmas presents for my nieces.

[ChaplainTappman]

Made Nightwing wrote...

Agreed, I need some good Christmas presents for my nieces.

Yeah, sure. Nieces. That's a good one. Whatever you have to tell yourself...

[ChaplainTappman]

elektrego wrote...

Well, as a trained chef, I probably could make you a nice recipe for a "Stuffed Hanar"

Can you stuff water?

[Made Nightwing]

By the way, I recently started a fanfic about General Williams and the Siege of Shanxi, it's up to Chapter Four now, feel free to check it out.

http://www.fanfictio...Siege_of_Shanxi

[ubermensch007]

ChaplainTappman wrote...

I feel like Ash would hate Miranda for her demeanor. "Get the f*ck over yourself, catsuit. Your sh*t stinks just like the rest of us."

Nah playa... Operative Miranda Lawson's genetic tailoring was so all-encompassing: That her ****** taste like wine and her sh!t smells like brownies.

Made Nightwing wrote... It's Nightwing dammit ../../../../images/forum/emoticons/policeman.png.Personally, I agree with you a hundred percent, but Bioware probably ain't gonna do it. Mind you, it'd make a heck of a reward for those who
stayed loyal.

Yeah, I forget sometimes you spell that like Dick Grayson's grown up crime fighter name.



As for the short story you and Aurora313 wrote: That's what's up

Modifié par ubermensch007, 11 septembre 2011 - 11:01 .

[Complistic]

[ADLegend21]

LessThanKate wrote...

That actually reminds me of a post I found rather irritating on a tumblr ask box. Basically, "What would you do if there was a Virmire 2.0 except harder because it would be between Wrex and Garrus?".

Uh, excuse me, I think you meant equally as hard as Virmire. Nerve of some people... 

THANK YOU. the nerve that if it was two different characters would make it harder. every character is equal in Mass Effect. Wrex can already be dead so he wouldn't be a choice all the time, but saying it's harder with the Aliens is just an insult to every human character including Shepard.

[Sepewrath]

Well whats harder depends on the person, remember not everyone likes Ashely and/or Kaidan. So that choice may have been nothing to them, since everyone who plays this game reaction is "I don't like you, here's the airlock"

[jeweledleah]

Sepewrath wrote...

Well whats harder depends on the person, remember not everyone likes Ashely and/or Kaidan. So that choice may have been nothing to them, since everyone who plays this game reaction is "I don't like you, here's the airlock"

true.  but as strange as it sounds - not everyone likes Garrus and Wrex either.  so for some people the only difficulty in that choice would come from- which one of those 2 I dislike more and/or which one of them will be easier to kill off later on.

granted - chances are, for people like that, both Garrus and Wrex are already dead.  but you get the idea.

in other words - virmire 2.0 could be JUST as hard or as easy as original Virmire.  claiming that it would be more difficult in general is a bit... generalized.

[ADLegend21]

I agree with Leah, it does depend on the person. like a person who doesn't lie Tali won't giv ea dman about hr loyatly and let her die with a rocket in the face, same with VS people they're glad the VS yelled at them ( or at least didn't wanna come on the normandy) but they're the people that are like "no they can't comback until they apologize (even though they did in the letter if you romance 'em)

[ChaplainTappman]

I want to preface this by saying that I'm not pointing at any one person or group of people when I say this.

If your reaction to Virmire is "boo, it would've been awesome if character x died," then you're missing the point. The whole point of the Mass Effect series, what makes it truly revolutionary, is that sometimes choices are unpleasant. Sometimes there isn't a good choice, or a right choice. I realize that they're just pixels, but you should never want someone dead, especially a teammate. Maybe it's just because my life experiences have given me a unique outlook on things like this, but consigning someone to death should never be easy, should never be joyful.

Just my two cents.

[ADLegend21]

That is a good point. I can't even justify not getting the upgrades for RP purposes. all of my Sheps want the best stuff sot hat everyone has a chance to survive the mission. Ic ould never send someone to their death in ME, the only reason it hapepns on virmire is because one of them has to stay and even that it's"well you lived last time so X is getting saved." so that I can have equal Ash and Kaidan saves :3

[Aurora313]

Gabriel: I will also be unashamed to admit that I want a stuffed Hanar... But Dad and Ms Ashley gave one to Mini Rivi (River) instead. *scoff* Complete and total favoritism!

[ChaplainTappman]

Aurora313 wrote...

Gabriel: I will also be unashamed to admit that I want a stuffed Hanar... But Dad and Ms Ashley gave one to Mini Rivi (River) instead. *scoff* Complete and total favoritism!

I feel your pain, Gabe.

Bioware, seriously. Get on this. I'm not kidding.

[Quething]

There's a pattern to make your own stuffed hanar somewhere on DevArt, if you're the crafty type (sadly I'm not, so I didn't bookmark it).

I wonder if there's a difference in the way people see the Virmire deaths vs the Suicide Mission deaths. The place they hold in their respective stories is certainly different; the Suicide Mission is built as a challenge and gives you a reward (in the form of an achievement) for "beating" it, it comes at the very end of the game and there are no real "consequences" for losing characters, and you can orchestrate exactly the survivors you want. You can hit Virmire as early as a third of the way into the game if you want, and even if you put it off as late as possible there's still anywhere between 1-2 hours of gameplay past that with that squaddie missing. You get no choice in whether anyone survives, or even who you have to select between.

To me, losing Ash or Kaidan (something I absolutely hate, and would totally mod around if it wouldn't break the game) certainly feels very different from losing squaddies in the SM (something I treat really academically, and routinely set up in different ways in the interest of telling different stories with my different Sheps and seeing the ME3 consequences). And it's not because I like Ash and Kai more than the ME2 guys. I like most of the characters, and certainly don't dislike any of them enough to want to kill them.

[Aurora313]

Random hanar: This one does not appreciate the child-like recontruction of our image.
River: *lip wobbles and eyes well up in tears, clutching the hanar toy closer*
Gabriel: THIS one does not appreciate a big stupid jellyfish making Mini-Rivi cry over a toy! *glare face*

[Made Nightwing]

Hey guys, have the first bit of 'Undisclosed Acts of Badassery', written, first chapter should be ready by the end of the week.

Have a sneak peek:



JANUARY 7TH, 2186
KITHOI WARD, CITADEL

SPECTRE CANDIDATE #HSA 2: PERSONAL LOG:

Hey...I’m not sure how to start this. Agent Coz said that keeping a diary, of sorts, would help me improve my meditative state, and enhance my sense of personal identity, important for when I’m undercover...you know what? How about we star there. My identity.

My name is Ashley Madeline Williams. Up until a few months ago, my life was going pretty great. I’ve been a Marine for a long time. It’s a good job. Keeps you active, fit, healthy...mostly healthy. Three hot meals a day, a bed to sleep on at night, a uniform to wear, and a code by which to live your life. The Corps is my home, my extended family...my whole world.

Up until two years ago, I’d only ever seen the surfaces of four planets. Earth, Mars, Amatesaru and Eden Prime. Now I’ve travelled to most major planets in the galaxy, along with more than a few completely obscure moons, and engaged in firefights of varying intensity on every one of them. Up until two years ago, all I knew about aliens was what I read on the extranet. Now I’m the first human to ever be awarded the Turian Nova Cluster and the Salarian Silver Dagger. I’m the first human to have ever led a Salarian Special Tasks Group into battle...and I’m pretty sure I’m the first human to backhand a krogan warlord and walk away without a scratch. That last one was pretty recent.

I’ve seen some crazy **** in my lifetime. Amazing though it may seem, having my whole platoon slaughtered by geth, under the orders of a rogue Spectre, who was in turn being mind-controlled by some kind of giant machine/organic lifeform named ‘Sovereign’, is the sane stuff. At least then I was fighting against a recognisable enemy, with a just cause to pursue. Things aren’t so black and white nowadays.

No, nowadays, I’m stuck with an old turian Spectre who thinks he’s my surrogate father because he accepted Grandad’s surrender at Shanxi, an asari Spectre who’s been kicking ass and taking names since before my ancestors were duking it out with the Confederate Army at Gettysburg., and a salarian Spectre with a morbid fascination for famous human assassinations. Every day, I’m being ordered around by politicians, beaten into the ground by my trainers/handlers, and taking care of pretty much every dangerous covert operation that the Council entrusts into my hands.

Does this make any sense to anyone? No? I didn’t think so. How about I start at the beginning?



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You like?

[JedTed]

Looks like a good start Nightwing, I can't wait to read the rest of it.

[ChaplainTappman]

Quething wrote...

There's a pattern to make your own stuffed hanar somewhere on DevArt, if you're the crafty type (sadly I'm not, so I didn't bookmark it).

I wonder if there's a difference in the way people see the Virmire deaths vs the Suicide Mission deaths. The place they hold in their respective stories is certainly different; the Suicide Mission is built as a challenge and gives you a reward (in the form of an achievement) for "beating" it, it comes at the very end of the game and there are no real "consequences" for losing characters, and you can orchestrate exactly the survivors you want. You can hit Virmire as early as a third of the way into the game if you want, and even if you put it off as late as possible there's still anywhere between 1-2 hours of gameplay past that with that squaddie missing. You get no choice in whether anyone survives, or even who you have to select between.

To me, losing Ash or Kaidan (something I absolutely hate, and would totally mod around if it wouldn't break the game) certainly feels very different from losing squaddies in the SM (something I treat really academically, and routinely set up in different ways in the interest of telling different stories with my different Sheps and seeing the ME3 consequences). And it's not because I like Ash and Kai more than the ME2 guys. I like most of the characters, and certainly don't dislike any of them enough to want to kill them.

I'm crafty, but I'm the wrong kind of crafty for that.

I don't personally view the SM deaths as any different as Virmire. I, as Shepard, failed. It doesn't matter to me that you don't have a choice on Virmire. Keeping everyone alive is my responsibility as a leader, and I failed in that task. I get treating it academically, as you put it, setting up deaths for storytelling purposes. I'm just not wired to do that.

[MegaBadExample]

Nightwing that was great. You got Ash spot on. I totally pictured Ash talking awkwardly to herself.