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-The innocent Asari? No.
-The cute Quarian? No.
-The femme fatale? No.
-The devastating biotic? No.
-The religious chick with a dislike for aliens? HELL YEAH!

It's not a dislike it's a concern for letting them around the vital systems of a human warship but that's a fair assessment of the other characters to points for not bashing.Posted Image

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A.C. Shepard and Williams by Crisurdiales as seen in Ashley-M-Williams on DeviantArt

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That looks like her face when you talk to the Terra firma guy. She HATES them like you wouldn't even believe. haha


Thanks that reminds me, I never played Bringing down the Sky or whatever, is there any new Ash dialogue in that over the main ME game?  I bought Pinnacle Station hoping there would be some new Ash dialogue, get to hear something she hasn't already said in ME, but nothing.  Only Shepard has a few new dialogues.


As far as I remember, there is no new dialogue with any of the squaddies, but it's great to play anyway. Do you play on Xbox or PC, because for the PC it's free to download or at least it used to be, if they didn't change t, but why would they.

Music:

I haven't really nailed down a song that captures their characters or relationship, but Ewan and Ash have a song. It's 'Recovering the satellites' by the Counting Crows.
When we discussed Rdubs' idea for a DLC, I started jotting down some notes for a reply that he wrote to Ashley, but never sent, in it he quotes some lines from the song. But Ewan is my KaraokeShep and he relates a lot of things to songs, especiallly Ash makes him want to sing all the time, as some of you might have noticed ;)

Anna, who is named after another Counting Crows song b.t.w., likes to listen to "Knock me out", a duett from Linda Perry with Grace Slick, when she is alone staring at pictures of Ashley thinking about what might/should be.

Those are my main Shepards, who alone have that level of detail in their headcanon, there are more, but I can't give any info like that for them, though I played them with great attention and love, I never went far beyond the game, when I think of who they are.

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since it's being discussed in the Kaidan thread, who's the best third squadmate to go with Shepard and Ashley?

For my Adept MShep it'd be either Legion or Tali so that the team can have a pure biotic, pure combat, and a pure tech for an all around beatdown with every type of power. plus with Legion's sniping skills Ashley can use all her weapons and not be stuck abck all the time as my sniper, maybe run into the enemy with her shotgun >:D

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Mesina2 wrote...

Hey guys, I already asked for this few months ago.


Anyway, I'm doing some video series and it's currently in writing stage.
It was halted for some time do to other thins, but I can finally start to do it again.

Anyway, Horizon is rubbish with Ashley/Kaidan so I need some assistance from you guys on how to make it good.
I know the problems( Ashley/Kaidan calling Shepard a traitor, Shepard's everything), but not sure how to make it good and that Ashley/Kaidan doesn't go with Shepard.



Come on guys.

I really want to do this.
I need help with Shepard.

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Mesina2 wrote...

Hey guys, I already asked for this few months ago.


Anyway, I'm doing some video series and it's currently in writing stage.
It was halted for some time do to other thins, but I can finally start to do it again.

Anyway, Horizon is rubbish with Ashley/Kaidan so I need some assistance from you guys on how to make it good.
I know the problems( Ashley/Kaidan calling Shepard a traitor, Shepard's everything), but not sure how to make it good and that Ashley/Kaidan doesn't go with Shepard.


If there originally was a dialogue option "I tried to find you!" after Ash claims Shep didn't, I'd forgive devs for all this Horizon scene. But no is no, so I'm still frustrated and I'll be good only when my Shep resumes his romance in ME3.

Modifié par UrusVerra, 15 septembre 2011 - 04:32 .


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I'd say do what Gilsa said in the Kaidan thread. Take the inventigative lines about cerberus and use those and avoid the emotional part of that where shepard gets called a traitor, that should do it.

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Mesina2 wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Hey guys, I already asked for this few months ago.


Anyway, I'm doing some video series and it's currently in writing stage.
It was halted for some time do to other thins, but I can finally start to do it again.

Anyway, Horizon is rubbish with Ashley/Kaidan so I need some assistance from you guys on how to make it good.
I know the problems( Ashley/Kaidan calling Shepard a traitor, Shepard's everything), but not sure how to make it good and that Ashley/Kaidan doesn't go with Shepard.



Come on guys.

I really want to do this.
I need help with Shepard.


Sorry, can't help you. The way it happens in the game is how it happens for my Sheps. Ashley and Shepard both skipped a heartbeat, when they saw each other again, resulting in the loss of blood pressure to the head and making them both sound like idiots. There is no other version for me, it happened the way it did, wether I like it or not.

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anywhozits......I wonder if Ashley's killed anyone Shepard knows, like maybe she kills Balak if you let him go during bring downt ehs ky.

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I have a fun and random activity for the members of this forum. Try to find one song, and only one song that captures their respective Shepard (and Ashley if you so wish.) personality and relationships. :D

Sound cool?

*de-lurks*
"Waiting for a Girl Like You" by Foreigner :D

My main colonist Shepard has had a lot of curve balls thrown his way. Ashley is the one bright spot he's been waiting for. Words cannot describe how excited I am to see the continuation of this romance in ME3!!!

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Song?

This song comes to mind during shepard's death and horizon

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Mesina2 wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Hey guys, I already asked for this few months ago.


Anyway, I'm doing some video series and it's currently in writing stage.
It was halted for some time do to other thins, but I can finally start to do it again.

Anyway, Horizon is rubbish with Ashley/Kaidan so I need some assistance from you guys on how to make it good.
I know the problems( Ashley/Kaidan calling Shepard a traitor, Shepard's everything), but not sure how to make it good and that Ashley/Kaidan doesn't go with Shepard.



Come on guys.

I really want to do this.
I need help with Shepard.


Shepard acted like an unemotional jerk that's what was wrong with Horizon. He stood there like a plank "I don't want to re-open old wounds."

Really Shepard? That's what you say to the woman who mourned you for two years? Wow. No wonder she walked away. Posted Image

.....So don't do that. How about showing a little tenderness? Posted Image

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MegaBadExample wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Hey guys, I already asked for this few months ago.


Anyway, I'm doing some video series and it's currently in writing stage.
It was halted for some time do to other thins, but I can finally start to do it again.

Anyway, Horizon is rubbish with Ashley/Kaidan so I need some assistance from you guys on how to make it good.
I know the problems( Ashley/Kaidan calling Shepard a traitor, Shepard's everything), but not sure how to make it good and that Ashley/Kaidan doesn't go with Shepard.



Come on guys.

I really want to do this.
I need help with Shepard.


Shepard acted like an unemotional jerk that's what was wrong with Horizon. He stood there like a plank "I don't want to re-open old wounds."

Really Shepard? That's what you say to the woman who mourned you for two years? Wow. No wonder she walked away. Posted Image

.....So don't do that. How about showing a little tenderness? Posted Image


Yes that is an important point, Shepard stood there almost like he didn't care. Also, I don't mind it being a bit of row, like couples do, but it wasn't all that emotional, which it should've been. I would suggest a longer convo...giving both of them more time to explain themselves (and if it fits into your story...I would make Shepard less of a Cerberus fan.)

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Mesina2 wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Hey guys, I already asked for this few months ago.


Anyway, I'm doing some video series and it's currently in writing stage.
It was halted for some time do to other thins, but I can finally start to do it again.

Anyway, Horizon is rubbish with Ashley/Kaidan so I need some assistance from you guys on how to make it good.
I know the problems( Ashley/Kaidan calling Shepard a traitor, Shepard's everything), but not sure how to make it good and that Ashley/Kaidan doesn't go with Shepard.



Come on guys.

I really want to do this.
I need help with Shepard.

Good luck, the dialogue on Horizon was a mess.

Ashley: Why didn't you try to contact me? Why didn't you let me know you were alive?
Shepard: Not my choice. I spent the past 2 years in some kind of coma while Cerberus rebuilt me.

Wtf? Yeah, don't even mention that you were basically DEAD, you freakin' dummy... AND drop the Cerberus bomb on her with the second thing you say to her. Nice one.

What might as well have been said: I totally would have, Ash, but when I asked about you, Anderson stonewalled me and the game parameters won't allow me to send e-mails to people. Also, I'm having this weird mental block that's preventing me from explaining my stance in a detailed and understandable way. So sorry, but I guess you're just not supposed to be like me in this scene nor be on my squad in this game... see you again in the next game, hopefully!

Anyway, I'm confident that Bioware will fix this in ME3. Can't wait to see it! :D

Modifié par Omega Torsk, 15 septembre 2011 - 07:04 .


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^ It went a little like this....

Ash: "We had something Shepard I loved you!"

Option 1 - I don't want to hurt you.

"I don't want to re-open old wounds." Yeah, and now that ME3 has come around Shepard has changed his mind.

Jesus christ BioWare....Writing at its finest.

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anywhozits......I wonder if Ashley's killed anyone Shepard knows, like maybe she kills Balak if you let him go during bring downt ehs ky.

That'd be a real nice assignment for a Spectre. It would tie up that loose end nicely if you let him go.

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^ It went a little like this....

Ash: "We had something Shepard I loved you!"

Option 1 - I don't want to hurt you.

"I don't want to re-open old wounds." Yeah, and now that ME3 has come around Shepard has changed his mind.

Jesus christ BioWare....Writing at its finest.

ME3 hasn't happened yet so no, he didn't change his mind.

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^He will.

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jreezy wrote...

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anywhozits......I wonder if Ashley's killed anyone Shepard knows, like maybe she kills Balak if you let him go during bring downt ehs ky.

That'd be a real nice assignment for a Spectre. It would tie up that loose end nicely if you let him go.

yeah. I wouldn't put it passed Hackett to put Ashley and Kaidan to work like that, similr to how Shepard got hit with side quests.Posted Image

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So considering that the time between ME2 and ME3 isn't likely to be years (I get the impression ME3 is pretty much a direct sequel), is Horizon a trial mission for Ash/Kaidan? My guess is that it was probably the last, or one of the last missions they did before becoming a full-fledged Spectre.

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^He will.

He might. It is Ashley.

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ME3 start's 6 months after ME2's ending. since the Repaers have to travel by FTL again becausse the Alpha Relay is destroyed it takes months to get to Earth and the Charon Relay. I think Horizon is the VS's first mission as a Spectre, like how Shepard's was a shakedown run on the Normandy that turned into colony defense. Since then I think the VS might have been given aship similar to how Shepard was and gone on various missions with a new crew and such and had several epic missions that earned them the respect of the brass and the council while they were agnoizing over Shepard being with Cerberus. The galaxy does move without Shepard in it and I think the VS has stepped into their own spotlight. I hope there's a scenario where Shepard gets saved by the playable VS. That'll make the game for me.

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jreezy wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

anywhozits......I wonder if Ashley's killed anyone Shepard knows, like maybe she kills Balak if you let him go during bring downt ehs ky.

That'd be a real nice assignment for a Spectre. It would tie up that loose end nicely if you let him go.

yeah. I wouldn't put it passed Hackett to put Ashley and Kaidan to work like that, similr to how Shepard got hit with side quests.Posted Image

"Williams this is Admiral Hackett. We've detected that you're in the Exodus Cluster. The terrorist batarian Balak has been detected near Terra Nova in the Asgard System. We believe he's making another attempt to crash an asteroid into the planet. Shepard was forced to let him escape last time so we need you to deal with this permanently."

I could imagine him saying something like that.

Modifié par jreezy, 15 septembre 2011 - 07:57 .


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jreezy wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

jreezy wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

anywhozits......I wonder if Ashley's killed anyone Shepard knows, like maybe she kills Balak if you let him go during bring downt ehs ky.

That'd be a real nice assignment for a Spectre. It would tie up that loose end nicely if you let him go.

yeah. I wouldn't put it passed Hackett to put Ashley and Kaidan to work like that, similr to how Shepard got hit with side quests.Posted Image

"Williams this is Admiral Hackett. We've detected that you're in the Exodus Cluster. The terrorist batarian Balak has been detected near Terra Nova in the Asgard System. We believe he's making another attempt to crash an asteroid into the planet. Shepard was forced to let him escape last time so we need you to deal with this permanently."

I could imagine him saying something like that.


Ash: with Pleasure. I'll be sure to bring you his head.Posted Image

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@ADLegend: Ah. I couldn't remember hearing a definitive timeframe between the two, but that sounds about right. I'd love to know more about the VS's jobs as a Spectre. In general, I'd like to see more of what a "typical" Spectre's life is like. Not that I expect it in ME3 (maybe in whatever comes afterwards).

And yes, that would be all kinds of awesome.

Edit: The CIA Jawbreaker team that was the first American presence in Afghanistan after 9/11 brought dry ice with them so they could mail bin Laden's head back to Langley.

*Arcturus Station*

Aide: Admiral? This box arrived from Spectre Operative Williams. It's addressed to you. It's heavy.
Hackett? What? What did Williams send- OH GOD
Aide: Sir? There's a mission report stapled to his forhead.

Modifié par ChaplainTappman, 15 septembre 2011 - 08:04 .


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Writers have said ashley and Kaidan will wtell Shepard what they've been up to in the past 3 years so I think we'll get story time with Ashley! :D