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[Cossack72]

That picture of Liara makes me grin so much

Top Ash:



Giving a big hug to my Shepard

Modifié par Cossack72, 16 septembre 2011 - 05:19 .

[LessThanKate]

Cossack72 wrote...

That picture of Liara makes me grin so much

Top Ash:



Giving a big hug to my Shepard

I like how Garrus is looking on like he wants to get in on that hug. Can't blame him.

[xxSgt_Reed_24xx]

LessThanKate wrote...

Agreed. Recent tweets, about "love working with this lady" put me at ease and yet...I'm the tiniest bit worried this maturing will be taken too far. Calm and collected is fine, but...it's not something that should define Ashley. There's got to be some happy medium between handling herself in a way that honors and examplifies the Spectres, but still has echoes of her original self.

Plus, while I'll fight this to the bitter end...the whole "Mirandafication" is bad enough just dealing with appearances. If she's anything remotely like Miranda in terms of personality...it's only going to be a bigger problems.

What's that line she has with Kaidan, about Asari and their lighter armor? She says something funny about them avoiding bullets. I want to keep that bluntness. Just because she has newfound respect for aliens, doesn't mean they're suddenly flawless.

Now see... this is what I'm talking about.

Only she says it way more eloquently than I can and it makes more sense. 

[ChaplainTappman]

LessThanKate wrote...

Plus, while I'll fight this to the bitter end...the whole "Mirandafication" is bad enough just dealing with appearances. If she's anything remotely like Miranda in terms of personality...it's only going to be a bigger problem.

What's that line she has with Kaidan, about Asari and their lighter armor? She says something funny about them avoiding bullets. I want to keep that bluntness. Just because she has newfound respect for aliens, doesn't mean they're suddenly flawless.

Those are both incredible cognitive leaps, aren't they?

We don't know the context behind Ash's appearance. We've seen one render and one cutscene, and the cutscene makes it pretty obvious that she wasn't expecting a fight. A full combat load, with heavy armor, probably weighs 80-90 pounds. You're not going to wear that sitting around the Normandy. You're not even going to wear that for most missions. And as for the hair, most servicewomen I know are thrilled when the day's over and they can stop wearing the bun. As a new Spectre, I can see Ash taking advantage of the fact that she doesn't have to keep her hair up all day any more.

And the gulf between "not a priori disliking and distrusting anything nonhuman" and "aliens are perfect" is huge. Like, we're talking Marianas Trench big.

[Mr. Brainheart]

LessThanKate wrote...

Agreed. Recent tweets, about "love working with this lady" put me at ease and yet...I'm the tiniest bit worried this maturing will be taken too far. Calm and collected is fine, but...it's not something that should define Ashley. There's got to be some happy medium between handling herself in a way that honors and examplifies the Spectres, but still has echoes of her original self.

Plus, while I'll fight this to the bitter end...the whole "Mirandafication" is bad enough just dealing with appearances. If she's anything remotely like Miranda in terms of personality...it's only going to be a bigger problems.

What's that line she has with Kaidan, about Asari and their lighter armor? She says something funny about them avoiding bullets. I want to keep that bluntness. Just because she has newfound respect for aliens, doesn't mean they're suddenly flawless.

I don't think you should fear complete character change, they haven't done that before. (not as far as I'm aware anyway) Plus Ash already has a clear and strong personality, if her character is slightly off you and the writers will pick that up almost immediately...You can simply feel if somethings off with a character like Ash and so should the writers (unless they're completely incompetent, which I don't believe.) But I agree new personality changes shouldn't define her character.

Same goes for Mirandafication, just because she wears an outfit that slightly resembles Miranda's doesn't mean she'll resemble Miranda in any other aspect...at all. Miranda is already in the game, a writer should be able to pick up on it if two characters start looking/feeling the same, when they are both in the same game.

I suppose part of it comes down to a trust in the writers, they might have made a slip up with horizon (although Ashley's lines weren't the real problem there)...but now they have to work with Ashley for a long time, I think they have had to watch and study her carefully. I think they can do it.

Modifié par Mr. Brainheart, 16 septembre 2011 - 11:55 .

[Telemachus78]

elektrego wrote...

All the enemies fall to the floor.
Kaidan: "Why do I even draw my gun anymore?"
Ash:

[Aurora313]

Here's a nice little piece of Dialogue. Haven't done one in a while. Maybe a little after Ilos or so.

Ash: *slightly troubled* Hey Skipper.
Shepard: Ash? What's the matter?
Ash: Nothing. Or at least, I hope its nothing.
Shepard: Don't mince words, just speak up Ash. What's the matter?
Ash: Well - I just wanted to ask something.
Shepard: Ok. Shoot.
Ash: Well, here goes... When you first heard that you were going to be a parent. How did you feel?
Shepard: How did I feel? Isn't that a little strange to ask.
Ash: Humour me.
Shepard: Um - Well - Gez... Not a question I get every day.
Ash: It's not public knowledge that you're a single father, either.
Shepard: Ah - yea, true. Again, just not an every day question.
Ash: It's not like you have to answer if you don't want to. I can totally respect it if you don't, but I'm just curious.
Shepard: To be fair - that was all the way back when I was just some street-rat on earth. Literally and metaphorically a lifetime ago. *sigh* I honestly barely remember my life back then. I'm literally a rags to riches case, Ash and all that sh*t I tried to bury as deep as I could.

But - um - To answer your question, I guess I felt both sides of the extreme... As an orphan, I wanted a family so I nearly leapt at the chance, but from a practical side of things, the kid'd probably die soon after birth. And his mother didn't give a damn about him. He was born when I was on my way to boot camp, so I was away. A friend took care of him in the mean time, but the reality of being a father didn't smack me in the face til I held the brat for the first time.
Ash: Wow...
Shepard: Yea - why'd you wanna know?
Ash: I um... *places hand on stomach*
Shepard: *looks at her hand, back at her* ... oh... um... wow.
Ash: Yea.

Modifié par Aurora313, 16 septembre 2011 - 03:23 .

[swordmalice]

Here's something I've been thinking about - the Alliance clearly has rules about fraternization (much like real-life military) and here we have Shepard in clear violation of those rules with seemingly no consequences (Ash herself is quick to tease Shepard about flirting with a junior office). Is it because of Shep's newfound Spectre status that made it easier for him to pursue Ash? Even with his Spectre status, he is still technically part of the Alliance military (as Admiral Hackett quickly points out to you after becoming a Spectre in ME1).

It'll be interesting to see in ME3 what becomes of Sheps who romance Ash, are no longer Spectres and are now ranked lower than she is in the Alliance...oh and with Ash also now being a Spectre. I smell drama

Modifié par swordmalice, 16 septembre 2011 - 04:40 .

[LessThanKate]

ChaplainTappman wrote...

Those are both incredible cognitive leaps, aren't they?

We don't know the context behind Ash's appearance. We've seen one render and one cutscene, and the cutscene makes it pretty obvious that she wasn't expecting a fight. A full combat load, with heavy armor, probably weighs 80-90 pounds. You're not going to wear that sitting around the Normandy. You're not even going to wear that for most missions. And as for the hair, most servicewomen I know are thrilled when the day's over and they can stop wearing the bun. As a new Spectre, I can see Ash taking advantage of the fact that she doesn't have to keep her hair up all day any more.

And the gulf between "not a priori disliking and distrusting anything nonhuman" and "aliens are perfect" is huge. Like, we're talking Marianas Trench big.

I'm thinking my attempt at humor is getting lost in text...

I'm well aware of where the character stood on things when we last saw her. What I described is an ultimate fear of mine...this bland, cold attempt at appeasing too wide a group. I'm confident that, for the most part, it will go unrealized. But until all the information is out in the open, it's so easy to speculate.

We've only gotten a little, which is still much more than any other given character. But maybe that's just it. When you get even the tiniest bit of information, it only makes one more curious.

So no, I don't think Ashley will be bouncing around talking about how she loves everyone now. That was an exaggeration. What I do fear is that the issues she'd dealt with until now will be glossed over. As much growing as she'll do, it's something she--and many people in this game--have dealt with. It's not...it shouldn't, just go away.

I'd like her to keep some sense of humor, personally; whether or not people actually thought she was funny is one thing, but she didn't take herself seriously 100% of the time. That's something Ashley has always had and some characters, like, say...Miranda, sorely lack. Any sign that that's being retained would be a great relief to me. 

As for appearances, I'm actually pretty forgiving. I don't know if I missed something or we're all assuming they'll do as she and Kaiden did in the first game; wear clothes when not on missions. I might dread the hate she'll recieve, but at this point it would be hard for me to stop loving her.

swordmalice wrote...

Here's something I've been thinking about - the Alliance clearly has rules about fraternization (much like real-life military) and here we have Shepard in clear violation of those rules with seemingly no consequences (Ash herself is quick to tease Shepard about flirting with a junior office). Is it because of Shep's newfound Spectre status that made it easier for him to pursue Ash? Even with his Spectre status, he is still technically part of the Alliance military (as Admiral Hackett quickly points out to you after becoming a Specter in ME1).

It'll be interesting to see in ME3 what becomes of Sheps who romance Ash, are no longer Spectres and are now ranked lower than she is in the Alliance...oh and with Ash also now being a Spectre. I smell drama

Well, in the first game they were...suspended, and about to go on a mission that would get them all in trouble if it didn't succeed so...the romance took place in a very rare situation.

It is an interesting thought, though Shepard may or may not still be a Spectre himself. In addition to the whole, you know...universe being wiped out situation...Ash might not want to even think about it at first. It'll take some doing, to be sure.

Modifié par LessThanKate, 16 septembre 2011 - 06:55 .

[MegaBadExample]

Aurora313 wrote...

Here's a nice little piece of Dialogue. Haven't done one in a while. Maybe a little after Ilos or so.

Ash: *slightly troubled* Hey Skipper.
Shepard: Ash? What's the matter?
Ash: Nothing. Or at least, I hope its nothing.
Shepard: Don't mince words, just speak up Ash. What's the matter?
Ash: Well - I just wanted to ask something.
Shepard: Ok. Shoot.
Ash: Well, here goes... When you first heard that you were going to be a parent. How did you feel?
Shepard: How did I feel? Isn't that a little strange to ask.
Ash: Humour me.
Shepard: Um - Well - Gez... Not a question I get every day.
Ash: It's not public knowledge that you're a single father, either.
Shepard: Ah - yea, true. Again, just not an every day question.
Ash: It's not like you have to answer if you don't want to. I can totally respect it if you don't, but I'm just curious.
Shepard: To be fair - that was all the way back when I was just some street-rat on earth. Literally and metaphorically a lifetime ago. *sigh* I honestly barely remember my life back then. I'm literally a rags to riches case, Ash and all that sh*t I tried to bury as deep as I could.

But - um - To answer your question, I guess I felt both sides of the extreme... As an orphan, I wanted a family so I nearly leapt at the chance, but from a practical side of things, the kid'd probably die soon after birth. And his mother didn't give a damn about him. He was born when I was on my way to boot camp, so I was away. A friend took care of him in the mean time, but the reality of being a father didn't smack me in the face til I held the brat for the first time.
Ash: Wow...
Shepard: Yea - why'd you wanna know?
Ash: I um... *places hand on stomach*
Shepard: *looks at her hand, back at her* ... oh... um... wow.
Ash: Yea.

Oh sh!t moment right there!

[Mr. Brainheart]

MegaBadExample wrote...

Aurora313 wrote...

Here's a nice little piece of Dialogue. Haven't done one in a while. Maybe a little after Ilos or so.

*Snip*

Oh sh!t moment right there!

And saving the galaxy just went down another spot on the priority list...

Nice dialogue Aurora!

Modifié par Mr. Brainheart, 16 septembre 2011 - 04:51 .

[swordmalice]

[quote]swordmalice wrote...

Here's something I've been thinking about - the Alliance clearly has rules about fraternization (much like real-life military) and here we have Shepard in clear violation of those rules with seemingly no consequences (Ash herself is quick to tease Shepard about flirting with a junior office). Is it because of Shep's newfound Spectre status that made it easier for him to pursue Ash? Even with his Spectre status, he is still technically part of the Alliance military (as Admiral Hackett quickly points out to you after becoming a Specter in ME1).

It'll be interesting to see in ME3 what becomes of Sheps who romance Ash, are no longer Spectres and are now ranked lower than she is in the Alliance...oh and with Ash also now being a Spectre. I smell drama [/quote]

[quote]LessThanKate wrote...

Well, in the first game they were...suspended, and about to go on a mission that would get them all in trouble if it didn't succeed so...the romance took place in a very rare situation.

It is an interesting thought, though Shepard may or may not still be a Spectre himself. In addition to whole, you now...universe being wiped out situation...Ash might not want do even think about it at first.[/quote]

Good point - I never thought about it like that. Kudos.

At any rate, I hope BioWare does something with this little situation of rank vs Spectre status in their relationship. Could be awesome. [/quote]

Modifié par swordmalice, 16 septembre 2011 - 05:50 .

[ADLegend21]

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

LessThanKate wrote...

Agreed. Recent tweets, about "love working with this lady" put me at ease and yet...I'm the tiniest bit worried this maturing will be taken too far. Calm and collected is fine, but...it's not something that should define Ashley. There's got to be some happy medium between handling herself in a way that honors and examplifies the Spectres, but still has echoes of her original self.

Plus, while I'll fight this to the bitter end...the whole "Mirandafication" is bad enough just dealing with appearances. If she's anything remotely like Miranda in terms of personality...it's only going to be a bigger problems.

What's that line she has with Kaidan, about Asari and their lighter armor? She says something funny about them avoiding bullets. I want to keep that bluntness. Just because she has newfound respect for aliens, doesn't mean they're suddenly flawless.

Now see... this is what I'm talking about.

Only she says it way more eloquently than I can and it makes more sense. 

So Calm and collected shouldn't define Ashley? Calm and collected is possibly the most valuable trait you can have in a soldier. while everyone around them is losing their **** Ashley's calm and thinking of the next move to lead to victory or to solve a problem. I want that to define Ashley after becoming a Spectre. you don't get far in life by being hotheaded and impulsive, just ask Garrus. The great Characters in Mass Effect are calm and collected the majority of the time. Mordin, Samara, Wrex, and yes even the "oh no don't be like her" Miranda.

"Mirandafication" is bs and jsut reaching for something to complain about. Ashley was here before Miranda and they're both badass female leads in their respective games but are their own characters. It's an insult to both characters to even call them the same because it says neither is good enough to retain their individuality and must be compared to the other every hour of every day.

Also her quip about lighter armor can be taken as an insult to Kaidan. Liara, Tali, and Shepard's of Engineer, Vanguard, Adept, infiltrator, and sentinel class becuase they wear light armor as well. that's condescending and I want that gone. It's also why I stick her in light armor now evne though it still doesn't keep her from saying it in the elevator.

Ash: can it make them dodge bullets? I'll stick with heavier armor.
Shep: *cough hypocrite cough*

[ChaplainTappman]

LessThanKate wrote...

I'm thinking my attempt at humor is getting lost in text...

I'm well aware of where the character stood on things when we last saw her. What I described is an ultimate fear of mine...this bland, cold attempt at appeasing too wide a group. I'm confident that, for the most part, it will go unrealized. But until all the information is out in the open, it's so easy to speculate.

We've only gotten a little, which is still much more than any other given character. But maybe that's just it. When you get even the tiniest bit of information, it only makes one more curious.

So no, I don't think Ashley will be bouncing around talking about how she loves everyone now. That was an exaggeration. What I do fear is that the issues she'd dealt with until now will be glossed over. As much growing as she'll do, it's something she--and many people in this game--have dealt with. It's not...it shouldn't, just go away.

I'd like her to keep some sense of humor, personally; whether or not people actually thought she was funny is one thing, but she didn't take herself seriously 100% of the time. That's something Ashley has always had and some characters, like, say...Miranda, sorely lack. Any sign that that's being retained would be a great relief to me. 

As for appearances, I'm actually pretty forgiving. I don't know if I missed something or we're all assuming they'll do as she and Kaiden did in the first game; wear clothes when not on missions. I might dread the hate she'll recieve, but at this point it would be hard for me to stop loving her.

Everything there is perfectly reasonable, and I defintely agree.

The internet's inability to convey sarcasm is, I think, I substantial concern for it going forward.

[LessThanKate]

ADLegend21 wrote...

So Calm and collected shouldn't define Ashley? Calm and collected is possibly the most valuable trait you can have in a soldier. while everyone around them is losing their **** Ashley's calm and thinking of the next move to lead to victory or to solve a problem. I want that to define Ashley after becoming a Spectre. you don't get far in life by being hotheaded and impulsive, just ask Garrus. The great Characters in Mass Effect are calm and collected the majority of the time. Mordin, Samara, Wrex, and yes even the "oh no don't be like her" Miranda.

"Mirandafication" is bs and jsut reaching for something to complain about. Ashley was here before Miranda and they're both badass female leads in their respective games but are their own characters. It's an insult to both characters to even call them the same because it says neither is good enough to retain their individuality and must be compared to the other every hour of every day.

Also her quip about lighter armor can be taken as an insult to Kaidan. Liara, Tali, and Shepard's of Engineer, Vanguard, Adept, infiltrator, and sentinel class becuase they wear light armor as well. that's condescending and I want that gone. It's also why I stick her in light armor now evne though it still doesn't keep her from saying it in the elevator.

Just because I don't want calm to be the one trait any given person would pick when describing her, doesn't mean I want her to be overly emotional or erratic. It can be part of her, of course I excpect a greater amount of level headedness in the upcoming game, that should go without saying. But she's always had a certain way of doing and saying things that I'd rather she keep.

Garrus is actually a pretty practical guy, and he was doing well on Omega, all things considered. He later admitted he let his feelings get in the way, which led to the deaths of his team. Still, I don't recall a time when any of the characters were "loosing" their anything. Almost all of the characters are professionals. But they still retain individuality; their backgrounds factor how they feel about certain things, how they react to certain situations.

"Mirandafication" is an insult to Miranda, too, you realize. That any character should come to resmble another too closely cheapens the original and the overall writing. They are their own characters, I don't want one to come too close to the other. I'm not her biggest fan, but if Miranda were drastically different in the third game, even if it were something more in my tastes, I'd be more confused and put off than anything else.

Condescending? So...Ashley should just be totally PC and hold everyone's hands? There's some truth to it, isn't there? She wasn't afraid to speak her mind...maybe it wasn't in her place, and sometimes Shepard has the option of telling her to stop, so I don't really see the problem.       

Maybe you should just tell me, what do you think Ashley's flaws are going to be? What they should be?

Modifié par LessThanKate, 16 septembre 2011 - 06:57 .

[ADLegend21]

alright thanks for clarifying but I wouldn't mind an impression Ashley leaves is being calm under fire just like Shepard is. By now the VS and Shepard should be on equal footing in terms of skill so that Shepard can lose a bit of that mary sue Mystique She/He's got going on.

I know Mirandafication is an insult to both that's what I said.

What Ashley's forgetting is that the Asari commandoes are the most feared warriors in the galaxy. If hte Asari were to every turn extremely aggressive and conquer planets on foot there's pretty much no one that can stop them. Imagine an army of Liara's led by scores of Benezia's and units of samara's rolling through cities and continents. Whos' going to stop them and their "light" armor? While it's a funny line there's also disrespect in it and I hope that being a spectre and working with aliens has tempered making fun of people's customs/traditions.

[Mr. Brainheart]

ADLegend21 wrote...

alright thanks for clarifying but I wouldn't mind an impression Ashley leaves is being calm under fire just like Shepard is. By now the VS and Shepard should be on equal footing in terms of skill so that Shepard can lose a bit of that mary sue Mystique She/He's got going on.

I know Mirandafication is an insult to both that's what I said.

What Ashley's forgetting is that the Asari commandoes are the most feared warriors in the galaxy. If hte Asari were to every turn extremely aggressive and conquer planets on foot there's pretty much no one that can stop them. Imagine an army of Liara's led by scores of Benezia's and units of samara's rolling through cities and continents. Whos' going to stop them and their "light" armor? While it's a funny line there's also disrespect in it and I hope that being a spectre and working with aliens has tempered making fun of people's customs/traditions.

Well that's part of the bluntness, sometimes she's too quick to judge. But I agree that's one of the things that should change, now that she has more knowledge of what's out there in the galaxy. It shouldn't stop her from saying something blunt when she sees something that she finds ridiculous. that character trait shouldn't be thrown out of the window, just be there in a different form. (and I think that should count for all of her character traits). Change is good as long as it's easy to recognise that this is Ashley we are seeing and hearing.

And I think you're giving the commandoes a little too much credit, Shepard and co faced them...and survived, so they are not unstoppable.

[Arokel]

So glad I stayed faithful to Ash with my mainshep. One of my favorite characters. As a religious person I have to say its nice to see a religious character who isn't a "bible (or equivelant text) basher". Plus she kicks ass. I bet she would give Shepard a run for his money.

Modifié par Arokel, 16 septembre 2011 - 08:12 .

[ADLegend21]

well no one said they weren't beatable and to be fair in the benezia fight there's only 4 commandoes the rest are Geth and we spend the entirey of ME1 wiping them out. If the Krogan's fear them that's enough for me to know they aren't to be trifled with. and I hope Ashley knows that.

[Nashiktal]

Asari commandos are the most feared in the galaxy because of their biotics. They don't need armor because they can form a barrier that block bullets without adding any weight to them. They also don't need their armor to hold extra ammo because they can killl with their minds.

Asari commandos are not feared because they wear light armor, and Ashely can't emulate any of that. So I don't see why she would start copying them all of a sudden in a matter of months. :/

Aside from that Ashley is an alliance soldier to the bone. If she is going to do any changing, she would improve upon current doctrine not copying other species. Especially when their methods of combat are ill suited (or in this case impossible) for her.

[ADLegend21]

Well Shepard's paragoning is that the Allaince shouldn't refuse it's allies. since humanity is either running or part of theocuncil the other three species are allies. I wouldn't be surprised if her armor and weapons were made by alien companies. She's possibly worked with STG so they might be feeding her intel, or maybe the Shadow Broker's helping her out a bit ;D

[Aurora313]

MegaBadExample wrote...

Aurora313 wrote...

Here's a nice little piece of Dialogue. Haven't done one in a while. Maybe a little after Ilos or so.

Ash: *slightly troubled* Hey Skipper.
Shepard: Ash? What's the matter?
Ash: Nothing. Or at least, I hope its nothing.
Shepard: Don't mince words, just speak up Ash. What's the matter?
Ash: Well - I just wanted to ask something.
Shepard: Ok. Shoot.
Ash: Well, here goes... When you first heard that you were going to be a parent. How did you feel?
Shepard: How did I feel? Isn't that a little strange to ask.
Ash: Humour me.
Shepard: Um - Well - Gez... Not a question I get every day.
Ash: It's not public knowledge that you're a single father, either.
Shepard: Ah - yea, true. Again, just not an every day question.
Ash: It's not like you have to answer if you don't want to. I can totally respect it if you don't, but I'm just curious.
Shepard: To be fair - that was all the way back when I was just some street-rat on earth. Literally and metaphorically a lifetime ago. *sigh* I honestly barely remember my life back then. I'm literally a rags to riches case, Ash and all that sh*t I tried to bury as deep as I could.

But - um - To answer your question, I guess I felt both sides of the extreme... As an orphan, I wanted a family so I nearly leapt at the chance, but from a practical side of things, the kid'd probably die soon after birth. And his mother didn't give a damn about him. He was born when I was on my way to boot camp, so I was away. A friend took care of him in the mean time, but the reality of being a father didn't smack me in the face til I held the brat for the first time.
Ash: Wow...
Shepard: Yea - why'd you wanna know?
Ash: I um... *places hand on stomach*
Shepard: *looks at her hand, back at her* ... oh... um... wow.
Ash: Yea.

Oh sh!t moment right there!

Well, it's River in there, so they must of figured it out. Lol.

[ADLegend21]

yay Shepley baby!!!!

[xxSgt_Reed_24xx]

ADLegend21 wrote...
So Calm and collected shouldn't define Ashley? Calm and collected is possibly the most valuable trait you can have in a soldier. while everyone around them is losing their **** Ashley's calm and thinking of the next move to lead to victory or to solve a problem. I want that to define Ashley after becoming a Spectre. you don't get far in life by being hotheaded and impulsive, just ask Garrus. The great Characters in Mass Effect are calm and collected the majority of the time. Mordin, Samara, Wrex, and yes even the "oh no don't be like her" Miranda.

"Mirandafication" is bs and jsut reaching for something to complain about. Ashley was here before Miranda and they're both badass female leads in their respective games but are their own characters. It's an insult to both characters to even call them the same because it says neither is good enough to retain their individuality and must be compared to the other every hour of every day.

Also her quip about lighter armor can be taken as an insult to Kaidan. Liara, Tali, and Shepard's of Engineer, Vanguard, Adept, infiltrator, and sentinel class becuase they wear light armor as well. that's condescending and I want that gone. It's also why I stick her in light armor now evne though it still doesn't keep her from saying it in the elevator.

Ash: can it make them dodge bullets? I'll stick with heavier armor.
Shep: *cough hypocrite cough*

No it shouldn't... like Kate said, Ash has a way of doing and saying things (even if it's in bad taste or at the wrong time) but that's what makes her a unique and real feeling character and I want her to keep that feel. It's not Ash if she's some mature, serious, and yes ... boring... character all the time. Samara, for me, is boring b/c of this very reason... she needs to learn to lighten up.

and for the love of god, combat situations have nothing to do with what we're talking about. Ash is already calm and collected on the battlefield as seen throughout ME1, described by her subordinates, and if you let her lead the STG team. That isn't under question.

It's not condescending, its called joking and being sarcastic. That's just part of Ash's character, she likes to poke fun at things like that. If someone gets their feelings hurt b/c of it.... boo freakin who. Besides it's actually true in a non-biotic's case... heavier armor is better than light armor.

As for the whole BS hypcrite remark, that's on you. You're the one who put her in light armor. If it were up to Ashley she'd being wearing medium or heavy armor.