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otay. When I quoted Aurora I said I'd love rivalry-mance with the ME LI's. they looked fun when I watched them on youtube with DA.

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I have one word.

Shepley.

That is all.

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Aurora313 wrote...

I have one word.

Shepley.

That is all.

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It's a good sum up though. As for para or renegade romance: Renegade is less...romantic and looks less meaningful. Doesn't mean there isn't love between the 2 of 'm, They just know how to hide it better.

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Mr. Brainheart wrote...

Aurora313 wrote...

I have one word.

Shepley.

That is all.

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It's a good sum up though. As for para or renegade romance: Renegade is less...romantic and looks less meaningful. Doesn't mean there isn't love between the 2 of 'm, They just know how to hide it better.


I suppose. Renagade keeps his sensitive side under wraps and doesn't show it often if ever. Paragon can be openly affectionate if he wants to be, but knows when to put a leash on it.

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Sounds like a good idea but, I don't think mass effect 3 will have elements of dragon age 2 in it.

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What do you guys think Ashley's rank would be at the start of Mass Effect 1 if her family name wasn't blacklisted?

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um mm i'm not sure if this has been said or not. i heard somewhere that Shepard might have to worry about indoctrination squad mates what if and i hope in wrong and just clutching at straws here so bear with me here. Ashley is indoctrinated i mean on horizen and we saw her get stung and frozen but when Shepard went to that area she was nowhere to be seen and then later she appeared. could it be that she was taken and implanted and set freed when the collectors left. i really hope im wrong and like i said clutching at straws but it stills scares me to death.

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um mm i'm not sure if this has been said or not. i heard somewhere that Shepard might have to worry about indoctrination squad mates what if and i hope in wrong and just clutching at straws here so bear with me here. Ashley is indoctrinated i mean on horizen and we saw her get stung and frozen but when Shepard went to that area she was nowhere to be seen and then later she appeared. could it be that she was taken and implanted and set freed when the collectors left. i really hope im wrong and like i said clutching at straws but it stills scares me to death.


I've always thought that was a head scratcher and I've seen others feel the same way on the thread. One minute the VS is frozen then they appear as if they had just went for a walk in the park. It would have seem more real if they had looked a little worse for the wear and made some comment on what they had just been through.

Hmmmmmm. I hope that they aren't indoctrinated but I am keeping all paths open with all the characters from Ash to Zaeed on what ME3 holds. Excited and am keeping fingers crossed that Casey and his team make me feel like I did when I first saw Star Wars in '77! Like a kid bouncing on the seat, spilling the popcorn in excitement!

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um mm i'm not sure if this has been said or not. i heard somewhere that Shepard might have to worry about indoctrination squad mates what if and i hope in wrong and just clutching at straws here so bear with me here. Ashley is indoctrinated i mean on horizen and we saw her get stung and frozen but when Shepard went to that area she was nowhere to be seen and then later she appeared. could it be that she was taken and implanted and set freed when the collectors left. i really hope im wrong and like i said clutching at straws but it stills scares me to death.


I've always thought that was a head scratcher and I've seen others feel the same way on the thread. One minute the VS is frozen then they appear as if they had just went for a walk in the park. It would have seem more real if they had looked a little worse for the wear and made some comment on what they had just been through.

Hmmmmmm. I hope that they aren't indoctrinated but I am keeping all paths open with all the characters from Ash to Zaeed on what ME3 holds. Excited and am keeping fingers crossed that Casey and his team make me feel like I did when I first saw Star Wars in '77! Like a kid bouncing on the seat, spilling the popcorn in excitement!

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so im not the only one then  still makes me shiver though. i think its a real possibility bioware mustve known what they where doing  when making that scene. i think they implied it when making it.  and the fact jennifer hale said i think something bad happens to the VS. omg the more i think about it  the more it seems likely . rolls into fetual position saying  its not true,its not true not ash :unsure:

ethier way ME3 will be hell of emotional rollercoster. it can't come soon enough. ohhhh maaaan 77 i was born in 85        

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PMC65 wrote...

Grey34 wrote...

um mm i'm not sure if this has been said or not. i heard somewhere that Shepard might have to worry about indoctrination squad mates what if and i hope in wrong and just clutching at straws here so bear with me here. Ashley is indoctrinated i mean on horizen and we saw her get stung and frozen but when Shepard went to that area she was nowhere to be seen and then later she appeared. could it be that she was taken and implanted and set freed when the collectors left. i really hope im wrong and like i said clutching at straws but it stills scares me to death.


I've always thought that was a head scratcher and I've seen others feel the same way on the thread. One minute the VS is frozen then they appear as if they had just went for a walk in the park. It would have seem more real if they had looked a little worse for the wear and made some comment on what they had just been through.

Hmmmmmm. I hope that they aren't indoctrinated but I am keeping all paths open with all the characters from Ash to Zaeed on what ME3 holds. Excited and am keeping fingers crossed that Casey and his team make me feel like I did when I first saw Star Wars in '77! Like a kid bouncing on the seat, spilling the popcorn in excitement!

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I always figured that it was because the collector ship left and that the remaining colonists defroze because of it. Or something along those lines.

But god no! If the VS is reaperized..that's just like kicking a dog while it's down....Having only one of them surviving virmire was bad enough, then killing off the surviver is..No, just no. I'm ot sure what I would do in response to that and I do not intend to find out.

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Indoctrination comes from being around a Reaper for too long. Ashley was put in stasis on Horizon, there was not a Reaper anywhere near Horizon and even if there was she was only stung for at the most a few hours which is nowhere near long enough to become indoctrinated. Ashley's not indoctrinated and hopefully she won't be indoctrinatedin ME3.

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Mr. Brainheart wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

Grey34 wrote...

um mm i'm not sure if this has been said or not. i heard somewhere that Shepard might have to worry about indoctrination squad mates what if and i hope in wrong and just clutching at straws here so bear with me here. Ashley is indoctrinated i mean on horizen and we saw her get stung and frozen but when Shepard went to that area she was nowhere to be seen and then later she appeared. could it be that she was taken and implanted and set freed when the collectors left. i really hope im wrong and like i said clutching at straws but it stills scares me to death.


I've always thought that was a head scratcher and I've seen others feel the same way on the thread. One minute the VS is frozen then they appear as if they had just went for a walk in the park. It would have seem more real if they had looked a little worse for the wear and made some comment on what they had just been through.

Hmmmmmm. I hope that they aren't indoctrinated but I am keeping all paths open with all the characters from Ash to Zaeed on what ME3 holds. Excited and am keeping fingers crossed that Casey and his team make me feel like I did when I first saw Star Wars in '77! Like a kid bouncing on the seat, spilling the popcorn in excitement!

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I always figured that it was because the collector ship left and that the remaining colonists defroze because of it. Or something along those lines.

But god no! If the VS is reaperized..that's just like kicking a dog while it's down....Having only one of them surviving virmire was bad enough, then killing off the surviver is..No, just no. I'm ot sure what I would do in response to that and I do not intend to find out.

New Ash-art-thingy: Posted Image

 


thats what i figured at first  but thinking about the other possibility makes sense as well and like i said  Jennifer hale said i believe  that something bad happens to VS. when hearing that it only strenghtens my theory. i think its a excellent way to drive our emotions and they bioware did say ME3 will make you cry.... oh god im doing it again :blink:. i don't want this to happen cause my Shepard has suffered enough Mindoir athen Akuze, puting a bullet through the only girl he loved  will destroy him. and poor Ashley too:(

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Grey34 wrote...

thats what i figured at first  but thinking about the other possibility makes sense as well and like i said  Jennifer hale said i believe  that something bad happens to VS. when hearing that it only strenghtens my theory. i think its a excellent way to drive our emotions and they bioware did say ME3 will make you cry.... oh god im doing it again :blink:. i don't want this to happen cause my Shepard has suffered enough Mindoir athen Akuze  enough puting a bullet through the only girl he loved  will destroy him. and poor Ashley too:(

I refuse to believe Bioware would kill the VS, that's just to bitter, unless it's not a forced death, but one depending on your choices. In this scenario perhaps there would be a countemeisure to the indoctrination, or something like that.

Also I agree with ADL that it would be very unlikely in the short time span, though if there was already reaper tech aboard the thing not impossible.

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VS getting indoctrinated = eject disk and break it in half

For me, anyway.

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That's the thing Ashley didn't make it to the Ship. She wasn't anywhere near it.Unless she was sent on Repaer hunting Missions and found one there's 0% chance she's indoctrinated.

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Mr. Brainheart wrote...

Grey34 wrote...

thats what i figured at first  but thinking about the other possibility makes sense as well and like i said  Jennifer hale said i believe  that something bad happens to VS. when hearing that it only strenghtens my theory. i think its a excellent way to drive our emotions and they bioware did say ME3 will make you cry.... oh god im doing it again :blink:. i don't want this to happen cause my Shepard has suffered enough Mindoir athen Akuze  enough puting a bullet through the only girl he loved  will destroy him. and poor Ashley too:(

I refuse to believe Bioware would kill the VS, that's just to bitter, unless it's not a forced death, but one depending on your choices. In this scenario perhaps there would be a countemeisure to the indoctrination, or something like that.

Also I agree with ADL that it would be very unlikely in the short time span, though if there was already reaper tech aboard the thing not impossible.



Maybe if you didn't kill Shiala you can get her to help the VS beat it? But wait, something funky is going on with her and the Feros colonists as well ... Dear God help us.

*places hands on railing as the rollercoaster dips down and screams* Posted Image

I won't mind any emotional rollercoaster as long as it makes sense and there are ways to save the character. Having the characters not make it as an option is okay with me for re-play purposes as well as story potential.

Is it March yet?

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I'm starting to write....Stealth Ashley...Posted Image

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AD; I wish you good lu...Wait where did Ashley go?! The pics are still here, but she's gone! Did she really need to cloak now, I didn't even know she had that ability. Posted Image

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Maybe if you didn't kill Shiala you can get her to help the VS beat it? But wait, something funky is going on with her and the Feros colonists as well ... Dear God help us.

*places hands on railing as the rollercoaster dips down and screams* Posted Image

I won't mind any emotional rollercoaster as long as it makes sense and there are ways to save the character. Having the characters not make it as an option is okay with me for re-play purposes as well as story potential.

Is it March yet?

Yes, I wouldn't even mind if it was hard to save a character, infact that would be better than how it was in ME2, were it was hard to not save a character. Or if a characters live depends on one of the previous games, that would be interesting too.
As long as no important character has to die, zero % survival chance. That I wouldn't accept (Not gladly and/or without tears in my eyes anyway.)

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Mr. Brainheart wrote...

AD; I wish you good lu...Wait where did Ashley go?! The pics are still here, but she's gone! Did she really need to cloak now, I didn't even know she had that ability. Posted Image

PMC65 wrote...


Maybe if you didn't kill Shiala you can get her to help the VS beat it? But wait, something funky is going on with her and the Feros colonists as well ... Dear God help us.

*places hands on railing as the rollercoaster dips down and screams* Posted Image

I won't mind any emotional rollercoaster as long as it makes sense and there are ways to save the character. Having the characters not make it as an option is okay with me for re-play purposes as well as story potential.

Is it March yet?

Yes, I wouldn't even mind if it was hard to save a character, infact that would be better than how it was in ME2, were it was hard to not save a character. Or if a characters live depends on one of the previous games, that would be interesting too.
As long as no important character has to die, zero % survival chance. That I wouldn't accept (Not gladly and/or without tears in my eyes anyway.)


I'd be a giddy kid if saving the rachni resulted in XYZ dying and the krogan, along with Wrex, turning on you ... Others would cry foul but I would think, "Yep. You can't have everyone as an ally just like WWII. Friends with one country? You lose another country. Friends with one species? You lose another species. Don't align with XYZ then {insert character her} dies in the battle (potentially since some wouldn't like the 'not everyone lives' option).

If BW is mirroring WWII then we are set for many battles not one and characters should have the potential to die and stay dead. I love Liara but if she had really died in that demo battle then my femshep would have torn the scenery apart ... as well as a part of me would have been in awe of Bioware's taking the kid gloves off. Then I would hit replay and do everything I could to keep Liara away from that 'soon-to-be-dead' mech.

Ash could be implanted with some type of reaper tech by the Collector's. After all she was the reason that they hit Horizon so why would they leave her? They took the colonists all around her. It is one of the mysteries that I hope gets answered in ME3 and just isn't one of those overlooked moments.

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PMC65 wrote...

Ash could be implanted with some type of reaper tech by the Collector's. After all she was the reason that they hit Horizon so why would they leave her? They took the colonists all around her. It is one of the mysteries that I hope gets answered in ME3 and just isn't one of those overlooked moments.


While I think it's possible, I think it'd be more the writers going, "oooh, those forum folks have a great idea!  let's use that!" rather than what was originally intended.

I don't think the Collectors were there for Ashley: I think that tIM let slip that Shepard would be on Horizon, which got the Collectors there, while he told Shepard that the Collectors have an interest in Ashley, which got Shepard there.  That she didn't get picked up along with Lilith and co. was "good luck" or "bad writing/bad animation."  :huh:

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@PMC; Yes it would be pretty awesome if they took that approach, it would also cause bring in more emotional weight, which is needed/realistic in a story of fighting against all odds, I think. It would also bring some drastic differences to the outcome of situations in different playthroughs, which would make having multiples all the more rewarding.

As for the horizon thing, wasn't there a tweet about it, some time ago? I can't remember.

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FireEye wrote...

PMC65 wrote...

Ash could be implanted with some type of reaper tech by the Collector's. After all she was the reason that they hit Horizon so why would they leave her? They took the colonists all around her. It is one of the mysteries that I hope gets answered in ME3 and just isn't one of those overlooked moments.


While I think it's possible, I think it'd be more the writers going, "oooh, those forum folks have a great idea!  let's use that!" rather than what was originally intended.

I don't think the Collectors were there for Ashley: I think that tIM let slip that Shepard would be on Horizon, which got the Collectors there, while he told Shepard that the Collectors have an interest in Ashley, which got Shepard there.  That she didn't get picked up along with Lilith and co. was "good luck" or "bad writing/bad animation."  :huh:


You could be right. There are many ways that the writers of ME could take this story. As long as it has some great surprises, fun combat and more "friendship" interactions then I will be a happy camper.

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Mr. Brainheart wrote...

@PMC; Yes it would be pretty awesome if they took that approach, it would also cause bring in more emotional weight, which is needed/realistic in a story of fighting against all odds, I think. It would also bring some drastic differences to the outcome of situations in different playthroughs, which would make having multiples all the more rewarding.

As for the horizon thing, wasn't there a tweet about it, some time ago? I can't remember.


I thought that there was a tweet about Horizon being explained like Liara's coldness on Illium. I'd have to look through the tweets later this eve to see if I can find it.

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Couldn't find it after a short search so I threw the question into the twitter thread aswell. :)

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Mr. Brainheart wrote...

AD; I wish you good lu...Wait where did Ashley go?! The pics are still here, but she's gone! Did she really need to cloak now, I didn't even know she had that ability. Posted Image

PMC65 wrote...


Maybe if you didn't kill Shiala you can get her to help the VS beat it? But wait, something funky is going on with her and the Feros colonists as well ... Dear God help us.

*places hands on railing as the rollercoaster dips down and screams* Posted Image

I won't mind any emotional rollercoaster as long as it makes sense and there are ways to save the character. Having the characters not make it as an option is okay with me for re-play purposes as well as story potential.

Is it March yet?

Yes, I wouldn't even mind if it was hard to save a character, infact that would be better than how it was in ME2, were it was hard to not save a character. Or if a characters live depends on one of the previous games, that would be interesting too.
As long as no important character has to die, zero % survival chance. That I wouldn't accept (Not gladly and/or without tears in my eyes anyway.)


I'd be a giddy kid if saving the rachni resulted in XYZ dying and the krogan, along with Wrex, turning on you ... Others would cry foul but I would think, "Yep. You can't have everyone as an ally just like WWII. Friends with one country? You lose another country. Friends with one species? You lose another species. Don't align with XYZ then {insert character her} dies in the battle (potentially since some wouldn't like the 'not everyone lives' option).

If BW is mirroring WWII then we are set for many battles not one and characters should have the potential to die and stay dead. I love Liara but if she had really died in that demo battle then my femshep would have torn the scenery apart ... as well as a part of me would have been in awe of Bioware's taking the kid gloves off. Then I would hit replay and do everything I could to keep Liara away from that 'soon-to-be-dead' mech.

Ash could be implanted with some type of reaper tech by the Collector's. After all she was the reason that they hit Horizon so why would they leave her? They took the colonists all around her. It is one of the mysteries that I hope gets answered in ME3 and just isn't one of those overlooked moments.


As long as they don't do stuff like that in combat. As someone else said in one of the big ME3 threads, that sort of thing would make combat a chore and not as fun.

Now if they do that in certain scenarios which are clearly distinct (like the SM at ME2's end) then fine, they can kill characters off like that. But not a small little skirmish where the AI gets dumb and runs headlong into the enemies.

/ranting