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[ADLegend21]

jeweledleah wrote...

for some reason I don't think Ash would wear fragrance at all. I don't know she just always came across as someone smelling of soap and flowers ( from shampoo). its just that her super casual know in ME1 and ME2 - that sort of knot takes barely any time to do and she wore almost no makeup. of course, it could change in ME3 - other things did. but I still think Soap and Shampoo.

maybe she's the spokeswoman for future head and Shoulders!

and Top Ash

Modifié par ADLegend21, 10 novembre 2011 - 06:17 .

[CptData]

Badpie wrote...

Funkcase wrote...

CptData wrote...

Hmm ... I'll pick the "Spectre Ash: is she a loner or does she have a team" one.

Lemme think about it - I guess she'll work alone or with only one other person to do her job. She's not the most social person and tends to make stuff on her own. Maybe because she's not that social like Shepard OR because she doesn't want to put someone's life in danger - the later one sounds good to me. Ash also seems to be too reserved towards people she doesn't know, plus being a "realist" she won't recruit a big team.

Does Spectre Ash have a ship, besides being interim CO of the Normandy? Most likely. Guess she'll have a special modified fighter for solo missions or a prototype long range shuttle.

My 2 cents

Ash actually strikes me as very social, she fit's in well when she joins the Normandy in ME1, it's only a matter of minutes before she starts teaing Joker. I think it depends on the situation, most cases she'll probably work by herself, but other times in thick combat situations she'll probably have a squad of other Alliance marines, we know Ash is a great Leader already, one who's strict but fair.

Ash has the Normandy, atleast while Shepard's in chains, other than that? Who knows. I assume she would be given one after Shepard is reinstated (A Spectre needs a ship) but she chooses to stay onboard the Normandy and work with Shepard instead.

Slow day today, I guess some people are still upset about the spoilers?

Ashley is definitely a social creature.  She may lack some more subtle social graces but I figure there aren't many career soldiers that care much about that sort of thing.  She's always been talkative and clearly had a good relationship with her unit on Eden Prime.  The fact that Nirali Bhatia talked to her about personal things suggests she had a lot of friends.  I always saw her as the type who loved to go out for beers with her crew and dancing with her girls.  And is most definitely a shot instigator but doesn't usually get wasted.  She just likes a nice warm buzz.

I think Ash is also into semi-casual, semi- regular flings with men.  Something that fits her schedule on her terms she sets.  And I feel like none of those men, whoever she's dating at the time are military.  At least not within the same zip code.  hehehe.

And oh, I loved this.

Okay, maybe I stated things with the wrong words: she is a social person, but she generally doesn't trust someone that easily she doesn't know. She cares deeply for those she loves (her family, her friends), but she wouldn't give a Vorcha's ass *g* for anyone she doesn't trust.

Guess that makes difficult for her to build up her own team outside the military. However, she IS a good leader. She simply hates to put others in danger for her jobs, especially if those people are NOT military personal. Something like that.

About the flings - guess it depends on headcanon *g* My Ash sees all the romantic stuff and sex a bit more serious (and not because of religious reasons) so ... dunno if she's into that. I can see her having one or two, but not on a regular basis. I think I once wrote stuff about her ex boyfriends. Her preferred type is "well but not overly exercised man in uniform" so I guess she flirted with policemen and other uniform bearers from time to time. May I ask her? Whatever - one of her ex boyfriends in teen age was far off the scale "preferred type" but her first "true love". He died after a bit more than a year with her at the age of 19 or 20.

The one type she's looking for is someone who deeply cares for her without being too sappy. That's Shepard. And that's one of the reasons why she never had a date or fling after Shepard's death in two years (however, guys tried to date her).

Headcanon

In my version she loves dancing, Vogue magazine, shoots tequila better than most but prefers Irish coffee, is an avid runner & cyclist, would kill for a plate of sliced tomatoes, mashed potatoes and top sirloin steak, has a mad crush on the old matinee idol Gregory Peck (To Kill A Mockinbird is her favorite movie) so much that she dated an attorney briefly because of Peck's Atticus Finch portrayel.

I thought we were just speculating that Ash was on the Normandy, not that it had been confirmed that she has been commanding it.  Though I suppose it would make sense that she has the "keys" so to speak when she and Vega pick up Shepard.

Nah it's not confirmed, but I can see her as new CO or at least interim CO and future XO on the Normandy.

[Mr. Brainheart]

ADLegend21 wrote...

jeweledleah wrote...

for some reason I don't think Ash would wear fragrance at all. I don't know she just always came across as someone smelling of soap and flowers ( from shampoo). its just that her super casual know in ME1 and ME2 - that sort of knot takes barely any time to do and she wore almost no makeup. of course, it could change in ME3 - other things did. but I still think Soap and Shampoo.

maybe she's the spokeswoman for future head and Shoulders!

Only if Shepard introduced her into the commercial-world by making every story in the citadel his/her favorite

I think you're right though, she doesn't look like the kind of person to wear a fragrance. If she does it'd be for a very special occasion, but I don't think she'd wear 'tomboy' which was suggested, I think she'd use a more feminine fragrance when she does use one, but nothing too fancy.

About her having semi-regular flings, whilst I find it possible that she's had the occasional fling, when she had the oppertunity, desire and came across someone she liked and with whome she felt some sexual tension. Personally I don't think that'd be a lot of people, but a few.

[CptData]

Mr. Brainheart wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

jeweledleah wrote...

for some reason I don't think Ash would wear fragrance at all. I don't know she just always came across as someone smelling of soap and flowers ( from shampoo). its just that her super casual know in ME1 and ME2 - that sort of knot takes barely any time to do and she wore almost no makeup. of course, it could change in ME3 - other things did. but I still think Soap and Shampoo.

maybe she's the spokeswoman for future head and Shoulders!

Only if Shepard introduced her into the commercial-world by making every story in the citadel his/her favorite

I think you're right though, she doesn't look like the kind of person to wear a fragrance. If she does it'd be for a very special occasion, but I don't think she'd wear 'tomboy' which was suggested, I think she'd use a more feminine fragrance when she does use one, but nothing too fancy.

About her having semi-regular flings, whilst I find it possible that she's had the occasional fling, when she had the oppertunity, desire and came across someone she liked and with whome she felt some sexual tension. Personally I don't think that'd be a lot of people, but a few.

Haha ^^

Indeed, Brain, indeed. Ashley sees the "sexual stuff" more seriously than ... lets say Miranda. No bash here. Miranda is more the type of woman agressively using her body to get what she wants. I can't imagine Ashley doing the same. Heck with it, as I stated before, she has a special type of man she wants to get: well developed, intelligent, in uniform and not too clingy but deeply caring.

Shepard?

I doubt there are more Shepard!likes out there, but yeah, maybe she had some similar guy before. Without that hero-bonus of course.

Ashley uses make up and such, but not as long as she's in duty. We never saw her off duty so ... I guess she loves using make up & fragrance - on a subtle level.

[Mr. Brainheart]

@Data; I like to think so, I guess she's had some relationships where they both knew they were going to part again in a few weeks or so, so I wouldn't say she stands above having had a few rather 'shallow' relationships.

I wonder though, do you think she would hold off or call of a relationship if she knew it could get very serious? Not because she doesn't want a relationship, but because it might be problematic when they barely get to see each other and she might not be able to keep her focus.
In other words do you think she was ready for a long term relationship, or do you think she'd rather wait till she feels she can handle it, has time for it, etc.?

[CptData]

Mr. Brainheart wrote...

@Data; I like to think so, I guess she's had some relationships where they both knew they were going to part again in a few weeks or so, so I wouldn't say she stands above having had a few rather 'shallow' relationships.

I wonder though, do you think she would hold off or call of a relationship if she knew it could get very serious? Not because she doesn't want a relationship, but because it might be problematic when they barely get to see each other and she might not be able to keep her focus.
In other words do you think she was ready for a long term relationship, or do you think she'd rather wait till she feels she can handle it, has time for it, etc.?

Depends. I guess she ended at least one relationship because of a reason like this. She's in mid twenties however, meaning she already should know what she wants. Is Shepard more than just a short-term relationship for Ashley? Most likely not, but that's not for certain. The fact she took over a year to get OVER Shepards death seems to support this theory - she wanted Shepard for more than just a short therm relationship. Shepard was the "big deal" for Ash.

However, I think Ashley will NOT go for another long term relationship before ending the Reaper thread. Even if it's Shepard. She simply doesn't want losing him again and the less she allows feelings for him, the easier it is for her to do her job. At least that's what I can see.

[Deelane]

CptData wrote...
However, I think Ashley will NOT go for another long term relationship before ending the Reaper thread. Even if it's Shepard. She simply doesn't want losing him again and the less she allows feelings for him, the easier it is for her to do her job. At least that's what I can see.

Maybe yes, maybe no. Don't forget they have no confidence in the victory. Maybe she decides to use the last chance for a relationship?
I mean, it would be disappointing if Ashley will avoid Shepard throughout the game. However, even if so, for her it will be not easy, considering that she still loves him. 

[CptData]

Deelane wrote...

CptData wrote...
However, I think Ashley will NOT go for another long term relationship before ending the Reaper thread. Even if it's Shepard. She simply doesn't want losing him again and the less she allows feelings for him, the easier it is for her to do her job. At least that's what I can see.

Maybe yes, maybe no. Don't forget they have no confidence in the victory. Maybe she decides to use the last chance for a relationship?
I mean, it would be disappointing if Ashley will avoid Shepard throughout the game. However, even if so, for her it will be not easy, considering that she still loves him. 

I dunno. Ashley had such moment in ME - Shepard and Ash knew they could die on Ilos. They already took the road "last time for love & sex". Also they did it because they were criminals now - after all, they stole the Normandy. So ranks and names meant nothing anymore to them.

I can't see a similar scene in ME3, plus you come with the burden of distrust from Horizon. Is Ashley ready to restart the relationship with a man that died once and came back working for the wrong team? It'll take time to fix that one already, even more if there's a war going on.

Whatever - Ashley will show feelings - I'm just not sure if she wants more than in ME. Or if she allows it.

[Deelane]

Fair enough. But I would prefer not to spend the whole game *again* building relationships and restoring trust. We already went through and so great as in the ME1 it will never be. Unfortunately, given what we know, it seems necessary. But what to do ... we'll play and see.

[CptData]

Deelane wrote...

Fair enough. But I would prefer not to spend the whole game *again* building relationships and restoring trust. We already went through and so great as in the ME1 it will never be. Unfortunately, given what we know, it seems necessary. But what to do ... we'll play and see.

Lets say it should be easier to continue LI with Ashley than staring one from scratch. Maybe some extra scenes, more dialogue, but I bet it will be "rebuild the romance" and not "continue the romance". As long as it's beautiful to watch, I'll enjoy it. If Ashley!LI turns out to be similar like one of ME2 I'll be utterly disappointed. I want the slow buildup of ME, not the "ONS like event" of ME2.

[CptData]

Ashley demands some dialogue. Aurora? Anyone?

Ashley: Silence. Long. Boring. Silence.
Vega: Yup.
Ashley: And I have no idea how to get out of here.
Vega: Yup.
Ashley: I wonder what's Shepard waiting for ...
Vega: No idea. We're here for one day or so. Speaking of, I feel a growing pressure ...
Ashley: Keep everything where it is now.
Vega: But I need to take a leak!
Ashley: *sigh*

[Aurora313]

I'm working at the moment. Have a presentation to finish off in the next hour and I've lost all my material. So a little bit busy atm.

Shepard: Ok. I'm confused, where the hell is this room?
Pierce: Uh. *checking through omni-tool data* According to this. *points towards locked doorway* They'll be on the other side of that access tunnel. It's a pretty straight run, but it's loaded with guards.
Shepard: How long is it?
Pierce: Um... Wow-wee - almost a kilometre.
Shepard: Got a few dozen hand grenades ready?
Pierce: Nope, but I got my trusty 'Aurora' with me. *brandishing sniper rifle.*
Shepard: Think you can hack the door.
Pierce: Sure thing.
Shepard: That's my girl.

---- ----

Vega: This is just loco.
Ashley: *Hears voices* Vega, back up a bit.
Vega: You heard that too?
Ashley: can you make em out?
Vega: There's two. That's about it.
Ashley: Alright, find something for cover, I guess?
Vega: Where? It's an empty room!
Ashley: I don't know, crowd up on the door?
???: *zap!* Ah! F*ck!
*Vega+Ashley, look at the door and to each other again.*
Ashley: Was that?
Vega: Music to my ears far as I'm concerned.

*Door snaps open, Shepard's standing with his weapon raised. The expression on his face more confused than anything else.*

Shepard: ... huh. *To Pierce* I thought you said this was a supposed to be an access tunnel? Not a bloody reunion. *To Ash and Vega* Though it is absolutely awesome to see you guys safe and sound, no offence intended.
Ashley: Bout bloody time, John.
Vega: No taken, sir.
Pierce: I swear it was *looks at map.* Oh.
Shepard: What's 'oh'?
Ashley: That map was upside down?
Pierce: ....
Shepard: Rox?
Pierce: Whoops.
*Shepard, Ash + Vega facepalm*
Shepard: Vega, Trade - My girl for yours?
Ashley: Oi! I'm not a commodity!
Pierce: Can we talk when we get the hell out of here? Please?
Ashley: Agreed.
Vega: I'm rather desperate to get back to the Normandy.
Shepard: Yea. The Shuttle is waiting. Let's go.
Ashley: Gladly.

Modifié par Aurora313, 10 novembre 2011 - 01:27 .

[CptData]

Finally they're out of that room. *g*
Seriously, Vega was about to do the "deed". I mean with the "leak". Poor Ash.

[Aurora313]

That's the only dialogue from me tonight. I've got work to do.

[CptData]

^ this.

Yeah, lets stay with the "headcanon" thingie. It's a little nice idea to keep everyone happy with Ashley's character. My Ashley needs more than just a fling to allow someone to get in her pants. I'm not even sure if she had ONS or so, and if she had, than just a few or because she had alcohol a bit too much. Can't see her in that state that often.

Is Shepard more than a fling? Hmm, maybe that's what Ashley thought for a while BEFORE that locker scene. Guess that's the "turning point" for her when she realizes there's more than just some fangirling and phantasy about getting humped by your CO with that sexy abs.
Ash claims she had feelings for Shepard (I loved you!) in that Horizon scene. So I guess she considers their short living relationship as "the real deal".

Is Shepard Ashley's "true love"? I doubt both consider their short relationship as "true love". It simply was too short for such development. It can, however, become one if BW allows more in ME3.

[Aurora313]

Spoilerish. WARNING!!!!
Spoilerish. WARNING!!!!
Spoilerish. WARNING!!!!
Spoilerish. WARNING!!!!


Ashley: *raises weapon* Stop right there, Shepard.
Shepard: Ashley? What are you doing?
Ashley: I know whats really going on here.
Shepard: Makes one of us.
Ashley: I'm holding a pistol Shepard, aiming right between your eyes. And you want to make jokes.
Shepard: I thought this was a joke.
Ashley: I know everything. I know about you. You've been indoctrinated.
Shepard: And here I was about claim the same about you. *starts walking towards here.*
Ashley: Don't make me shoot you.
Shepard: You not going to shoot me.
Ashley: How can you be so sure?
Shepard: 'Cause I'm the only hope the galaxy has left. I'm the one with the Prothean message in my head.
Ashley: *weapon powers up* Don't make me do it.
Shepard: *rips at her hand and aims it at his forehead, the barrel pressing against his skin. * You want to shoot me? SHOOT ME!
Ashley: *startled*
Shepard: Do it! Pull that trigger! It's what you want, right?!
Ashley: *Silent horror before relenting slightly, collapsing to her knees.*
Shepard: *silent looks down at her in pity. She's obviously too confused and disorientated for further conversation.* I'm sorry Ash...

Modifié par Aurora313, 10 novembre 2011 - 02:20 .

[CptData]

I thought you wouldn't do that ... Aurora.

However, I have something similar in my sleeves but I won't post it here because of spoilers. Just in case anyone is interested, PM me, I'll send you that dialogue later.

[sistersafetypin]

I support Ash realizing her love for my FemShep... I just hope it's done in a way that still feels like Ash.

[Aurora313]

Take it. That's the only one I'll give...

Besides, I've wanted to do something like that before we heard about the VS.

[YouthCultureForever]

Mr. Brainheart wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

jeweledleah wrote...

for some reason I don't think Ash would wear fragrance at all. I don't know she just always came across as someone smelling of soap and flowers ( from shampoo). its just that her super casual know in ME1 and ME2 - that sort of knot takes barely any time to do and she wore almost no makeup. of course, it could change in ME3 - other things did. but I still think Soap and Shampoo.

maybe she's the spokeswoman for future head and Shoulders!

Only if Shepard introduced her into the commercial-world by making every story in the citadel his/her favorite

I think you're right though, she doesn't look like the kind of person to wear a fragrance. If she does it'd be for a very special occasion, but I don't think she'd wear 'tomboy' which was suggested, I think she'd use a more feminine fragrance when she does use one, but nothing too fancy.

Oh, it's not a reference to Tomboys, it's just called Tommy Girl because it's from the Tommy Hilfiger collection. It's an inoffensive fruity floral scent. Cheap, readily available, and smells great. It's an everyday scent. It's a very popular signature scent. Now, I don't think she'd wear it everyday, but on the occasssion she felt like wearing perfume she'd take a few sprays from her sisters' bottle.

If not Tommy Girl, she might choose Thierry Mugler's Womanity.

Modifié par YouthCultureForever, 10 novembre 2011 - 04:23 .

[CptData]

Aurora313 wrote...

Take it. That's the only one I'll give...

Besides, I've wanted to do something like that before we heard about the VS.

Funny. I had a dialogue in my mind that happens on Horizon - the bad way. When I read the "cursed stuff" I decided against to write it down. I simply don't wanna spoil someone.

So ... either PM or not before ME3 launch. I guess I'll do it via PM for those who wants to read it.

[Mr. Brainheart]

@Youth; Although I just misread that one, that shows how much I know about scents

She could wear something like that, I think, but like you said, I don't see her putting it on every day, especially not when she's going on a mission or has a military assignment. Downtime though, I could imagine she'd wear it from time to time.

[WardenMaster]

Ash will want answers from shepard about everything that happened and why he was with cerberus and what not of course my shepard sent cerberus secrets to the alliance

[CptData]

I'm done with my spoilerish dialogue. Who wants one? I won't post it here. It's angsty & contains a lot of Ashley.