What I am basically saying is this: neither Miranda nor Ashley - at least I hope so for ME3 - are over-sexed characters. The whole art style is. People, who make Miranda out to be some sex-crazed vixen, just because in their very own superficial approach can't see passed the outfit and the ass-shots, are not getting the point of the character. And the same goes for Ashley in ME3.
I know the problems with the new Mass Effect art style, therefore I don't necessarily see how Ashley will be oversexed.
Of course there is a conncetion between the design and the character, and we are, to a point, how we dress, but it has to be judged within the art style and not the style of ME1 or real-life aesthetics and yes, you can reject the art style as a whole.
I agree with everything you have said, brain, but strictly seen in the confines of the style, there is no problem with the character, not in my opinion at least.
Gaming has also become a very visual art form in general and of course, their looks say something about the characters, but you have to be aware of the language code. The language they chose is very blunt and simple and not the more sublte approach, I normally prefer, but I also see how it helps them sell more copies, which in turn secures a great budget for new great games, which is in my interest and allows me to compromise my own taste a little.
In terms of the Mass Effect art language, I think, obviously sexy always went along with powerful, sophisticated, mature female characters - Benezia, Miranda, Samara (I am aware, that IRL that is mostly the opposite, but again real life is not the relevenat language - it makes a difference if I use the word "chef" in a german or an english sentence, in german it means boss. )
Besides we have only ever seen Ashley on duty as a gunnery chief/operations chief before, we don't know how she behaves off-duty, which, given the way she acts in the semi-private atmosphere of Shep's quarters, may very well be a little more outgoing, than you would like to believe. The only thing, that is sure, is that she does things on her own terms, everything else is rather open to interpretation.
In the same way, the phoenix armor might very well be something she got issued by the Alliance military and not something she chose herself. At least she never had a problem when I put her into something different like the heavy duelist armor.
Anyway, I mostly had a problem with the annoyingly repetative flaunting of the words "sexy" and "sex" on the one hand and the derogatory comments about supposedly "over-sexed" characters on the other, which led me to my comment and not a direct comparison of the characters or wether or not you like them. Miranda was simply used as an example of how people misjudge the character based on the way, she is visually presented.
@data: I was talking about Ashley's dialogue in ME1 and I mean every piece of possible dialogue, regardless of your own playthrough and not ME3.
Modifié par elektrego, 18 novembre 2011 - 12:14 .
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