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Lt. Commander Ashley Williams thread: "Don't 'Ash' me!" We're Back Baby!


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#1176
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TeenZombie wrote...

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I know his vocational code is D5 and at the bottom of your link it has an example that has D5 = Helmsman.


I remember when that pic was first made, and while N7 and B4 are canon, D5 was made up, because nobody knew what Kaidan's code was.

I'm sure Ashley's code has changed, since ME1, because of promotions.  Hope we get that kind of info again.




Oh yeah I totally forgot that it was made up. Whoops!

edit: Top page Ash

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Remember when Shepard told Kaidan that he couldn't see Ash in a miniskirt and Ash replied with "Damn right you don't"? Yeah...

Also, you know something's wrong when the Biotic blue skinned token fanservice girl with plotshield has more actual armor than the badass front-line soldier girl who shunned this sort of wardrobe...

And as if that isn't enough, it seems that ONLY the women Shepard picks up for his/her team are the ONLY ones with skimpy outfits. Vasir? Armor. Cerberus girl troopers? Armor. Blue Suns women? Armor. ALL males? Armor.
Miranda, Samara, Morinth and now Ashley? Catsuits, cleavage and high heels!
I'd like that, at least once, 16 year old horny teenagers wouldn't be the focus group on "creative decisions"...

PS: I LOVE this skirt/heels/garters as off-duty wear. As actual combat suits? good going there Bioware... Yep, I'm bitter as hell.

And I'd also LOVE to hear Casey explaining this...


Well, she clearly has a small strip of Armor just above her knee, right there on her thigh high boots under her tinfoil mini-skirt, and Shoulder "armor" with a giant freaking hole in the middle making it completely useless. 

I was saying from the time Casey tweeted that about Ash's "armor" that it was complete utter BS designed to get fans to shut up about it, and that the """armor""" he was talking about was her stripper's outfit.

Of course nobody wanted to listen to me.

But hey, look on the bright side, Bioware are going to bend you over and take 3 dollars out of your wallet so you can get some DLC armor for Ash that they damn well know should've (and easilly could've) been in the game in the first place. (It's probably already designed and ready to go) The Ash fans will pay for it after all, why not squeeze every dime out of this franchise that they can?  Most people seem to like seeing publishers make money off of this whole DLC scam after all (lord knows I've seen enough people have hissy fits when you criticize the practice), I mean, why respect your own characters and fanbase when you can sucker more people out of their money via the "wonderful" "innovation" that is DLC.   

I'm sure this mess will be followed up with more heaping BS about not compromising "creative vision" (which ironically is already very much compromised)

Modifié par CSunkyst, 04 juillet 2011 - 05:01 .


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I am afraid that this is Bioware's idea of Female armor:

http://www.collegehu...ale-armor-sucks 

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Telemachus78 wrote...

I am afraid that this is the Idea of Female armor:

http://www.collegehu...ale-armor-sucks 

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I'm sorry, but for some reason, I saw Jack in this commercial. (Not trying to be funny)

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Repearized Miranda wrote...
Are you kidding me? Vertigo thought the same thing.


Hey only because of the name...otherwise your OK in my book!

Anyway about Ashley's alternate outfit...it looks OK to me.

Also:

TobiTobsen wrote...

Mabye... we don't know that yet. It could be that Chris L'Etoile is crying somewhere and they changed Ashs personality to fit the new mainstream look.

I just need to nag about something. Don't mind me :innocent::lol:


This is still my worry, they can make Ash wear anything her personality is still something I hope they keep intact for ME3.

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 04 juillet 2011 - 05:16 .


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Still waiting for her to get Armor...

Though I have to say, I'll be giving her that outfit instead of the blue version on off duty hours.

Combat: Armor

Off-duty: Red/white catsuit

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Vertigo_1 wrote...

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Are you kidding me? Vertigo thought the same thing.


Hey only because of the name...otherwise your OK in my book!

Anyway about Ashley's alternate outfit...it looks OK to me.


Thanks! Granted I made a minor mistake (I wish I could fix)

Is the blue her alternate? Because I keep seeing the loathing as if that's her default - not to mention this:

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Now, you see why I did what I did.

Modifié par Repearized Miranda, 04 juillet 2011 - 05:29 .


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I think that Ashley's outfit change has to do with her change in assignment. She's obviously been made a Spectre, but I think she's more of an inflitrator now instead of a soldier. I wouldn't surprise me if she's had some undercover, iknfiltration, or assasinationj missions under her belt and has been used for ops that require a "deft" (?) Touch that the council mentioned before they locked down the ship in ME1. She's no longer on the frontlines but used as a peacemaker in the form of ending things before they get started. Her armor needs to be silent, flexible but enough to protect her from the 2-3 squads she could face if things go sour, but even then she's not going try and absorb bullets and I'm sure it comes with shield generators as everyones armor does.

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^ Captain, I'm detecting high levels of derpface in this sector.

Hopefully she doesn't wear that expression the whole game.

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Vertigo_1 wrote...

This is still my worry, they can make Ash wear anything her personality is still something I hope they keep intact for ME3.



Why?  If they soften her and make her sexier more people will like her.  You need to start thinking like an executive.  Miranda was "hot" and popular, and all over the marketing for that game.  ME2 was a HUGE hit, so I'm sure the execs want someone to fill the "advertising sexpot" role, unfortunately because she's going to be a prominent character in the game, it's going to be Ash.  You can say I'm completely nuts if you want, but people thought I was off my rocker when I was saying Casey Hudson's tweet about Ash having armor was nothing but spin and BS.

Look at how many fans are saying they're sorry they cheated on her since seeing the new catsuit.  They certainly weren't won over by her character.  We're in line for a major character derailment.  Odds are the first lines of the new Ash romance are going to be "So Commander, do you like my new thigh high boots and tinfoil miniskirt" as she rubs her new enhancements all over Shep. 

I'm very rapidly losing my faith in Bioware, I'd probably be there already if I were a Dragon Age fan.

Pessimists are never let down, and more often than not we're right. 

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DaveExclamationMarkYognaut wrote...

^ Captain, I'm detecting high levels of derpface in this sector.

Hopefully she doesn't wear that expression the whole game.


Yeah that is the worst picture, I have ever seen of her.
I really was worried there for a while, until the E3 presentation.

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CSunkyst wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

This is still my worry, they can make Ash wear anything her personality is still something I hope they keep intact for ME3.



Why?  If they soften her and make her sexier more people will like her.  You need to start thinking like an executive.  Miranda was "hot" and popular, and all over the marketing for that game.  ME2 was a HUGE hit, so I'm sure the execs want someone to fill the "advertising sexpot" role, unfortunately because she's going to be a prominent character in the game, it's going to be Ash.  You can say I'm completely nuts if you want, but people thought I was off my rocker when I was saying Casey Hudson's tweet about Ash having armor was nothing but spin and BS.

Look at how many fans are saying they're sorry they cheated on her since seeing the new catsuit.  They certainly weren't won over by her character.  We're in line for a major character derailment.  Odds are the first lines of the new Ash romance are going to be "So Commander, do you like my new thigh high boots and tinfoil miniskirt" as she rubs her new enhancements all over Shep. 

I'm very rapidly losing my faith in Bioware, I'd probably be there already if I were a Dragon Age fan.

Pessimists are never let down, and more often than not we're right. 


I think changing her personality to fill the "sexpot" would be complete BS if Bioware did it. If her personality has a major shift in ME3 I will not bother finishing the game. And for those people who suddenly are sorry they cheated on Ash because of her new look shame on you.

Shep: Hey look, I am so sorry I cheated on you. I mean you look so good now.
Ash: WTF!! *clocks Shep in the jaw*

I am a DA fan and I lost hope in the DA team for that disaster that was DA2. But I am still hopeful that the ME team has more sense than the DA team. As far as character development goes for examples look at the development of Anders and Merril.  

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i'm probably gonna get a lot of hate for saying this lol but i have to ask... did anyone feel like ash was extremely man like in the first one? i mean not really now with her whole makeover and what not. but seriously i felt like everything about her was just a man in a womans body haha

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Saw this in the thread the images came from.

THIS is what she needs:

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The C Trayne wrote...

i'm probably gonna get a lot of hate for saying this lol but i have to ask... did anyone feel like ash was extremely man like in the first one? i mean not really now with her whole makeover and what not. but seriously i felt like everything about her was just a man in a womans body haha


Uhhhh, no?

If you think that's "man-like", wow, wait to you finish college and get to meet women in the real world, kid.

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Cossack72 wrote...
Saw this in the thread the images came from.

THIS is what she needs:
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This is headed in the right direction...

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The C Trayne wrote...

i'm probably gonna get a lot of hate for saying this lol but i have to ask... did anyone feel like ash was extremely man like in the first one? i mean not really now with her whole makeover and what not. but seriously i felt like everything about her was just a man in a womans body haha


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No, she felt like a real woman and not some idealised cardboard cut-out fantasy.

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Ashley would look better in armour. I won't complain about it though, Im just glad Ash is back in ME3.

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I agree with her transformation being so people would gain interest; however, I wonder if they are trying to make up for her attitude in ME2? (not to say that she may still have it or not)

"You made me mad - not to mention you don't look all that hot!"

Whereas Miranda gets mad and folks loved it - not necessarily because she looked gorgeous, but it fit her personality. I wouldn't say Ash is "sexed-up" (minus the parts that were); however, many felt she was quite "bland" in appearance and personality two games ago.

There's the other side though: people not forgetting the Horizon scene. She could wear what she is now, but her venom in ME2 just sucks that right off. Whereas, again, with Miranda, she could still wear her outfit egardless of what she spat out. (Jack's outfit was BEYOND appropriate for her character, too. Don't mellow her out just because you covered her up)

I, too, hope there isn't a drastic personality change like with wardrobe, but I also hope she isn't as "bland" as she was in the first two games either.

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Ugh, trolls will be trolls. Best to just ignore them.

@MegaBadExample: I couldn't agree with you more.

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Telemachus78 wrote...

Ugh, trolls will be trolls. Best to just ignore them.

@MegaBadExample: I couldn't agree with you more.


If that was aimed at me, I am not one.

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Nobody is a troll! OK! We are all sexy ass people having a discussion.

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Repearized Miranda wrote...

Telemachus78 wrote...

Ugh, trolls will be trolls. Best to just ignore them.

@MegaBadExample: I couldn't agree with you more.


If that was aimed at me, I am not one.

NO! I am sorry it wasn't directed at you at all. It was aimed The C Trayne who asked if we thought Ash was manish.

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The C Trayne wrote...

i'm probably gonna get a lot of hate for saying this lol but i have to ask... did anyone feel like ash was extremely man like in the first one? i mean not really now with her whole makeover and what not. but seriously i felt like everything about her was just a man in a womans body haha


It can be confusing some times...

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We are talking about Ashley M. Williams here...

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I personally like this look over big clunky armor ... But maybe there will be an option for the armor that others like as well. But no matter how she dresses, I am glad that she is finally back for the whole game and on the Normandy.

Is she being "updated" to appeal to a wider audience? Don't really care, she does need to be updated though. Mass Effect came out in 2007 so everyone needs to be updated from that time frame. As long as they don't change her swagger attitude, lips, eyes or VA ... I'm a happy camper!

And this is not a skirt & garter outfit ... Her pants are made of the same material as Liara's with a seam/pleat type appearance. Her top reminds me of a modified nehru jacket.