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[Dr. Doctor]

ADLegend21 wrote...

I'd imagine there'd be wise cracks all around, maybe even more on Shepard "going soft".

Normandy Galley

Ash: Skipper, are you seriously eating again?

Shepard: Hey, you try running around at relativistic speeds and throwing people around with your mind and tell me if you get hungry.

Ash: Yeah, but you wern't exactly doing that while you were sitting on your butt back at HQ Commander Softie.

Shepard: (smirks) Bet I can still drop and give you twenty.

Ash: Bold talk Commander, but I do believe you still owe me forty.

Shepard: Well then, we better get to work.

[Aurora313]

Shepard: *Drops the 100 kilo weight back on the rack and sits up, panting and sweating. Ashley smirks.* God! Don't EVER let me do that again.
Ashley: Your fault for being such a lazy bum back on Earth.
Shepard: I was locked in a cell, Ash. I didn't have the space to jog or exercise.
Ashley: My ass. And speaking of. On the treadmill now.
Shepard: Wha?
Ashley: You heard.
Shepard: Yea, would totally get along with my ex-wife.
Ashley: Just for that, you're running 15km.
Shepard: What?!
Ashley: Keep b!tching, and I'll keep upping the distance.
Shepard: Son of a B!tch.
Ashley: 20.
Shepard: Oh Come on!
Ashley: I can do this all day, skipper.
Shepard: Ah - F*ck me!
Ashley: Later, if your lucky.
Shepard: What?
Ashley: What?

--- --- After 15 kms Shepard is still no the treadmill --- ----

Shepard: *pant* for the record? *pant* You're new outfit?
Ashley: What about it?
Shepard: I'd thought I had to buy you dinner first.
Ashley: I got tired of waiting. Figured you'd hurry up if I just wore the stupid skirt.
Shepard: Fat chance. 
Ashley: *turns the treadmill up a bit higher*
Shepard: I meant with the Reaper invasion!
Ashley: *turns it back to lower setting*
Shepard: Gez, you're pushy.
Ashley: I can keep this up all day skipper.

Modifié par Aurora313, 30 novembre 2011 - 05:39 .

[Aurora313]

 I spent my entire life trying to get to the top, clawing my way through media and political flake to get my family name restored. And now, in a blink of an eye, the Alliance who I've been fighitng for - the ones that finally approved of me and my efforts - has fallen. And my other job - The SpecTRes? It's just been made redundant.

There is no council. There is no citadel security, there is no Special Tactics and Reconniance anymore. Everything Ive fought for in my life is gone. Swallowed in a maelstrom of chaos called the 'Reapers'. That was a year ago now. Seems like a lifetime ago. Everything I earned is gone. Maybe this was how Jon felt? Coming back from the other side to find that nothing was as it should have been.

... I'd be lying if I said I didn't miss him. I left his side while he was still on that bed. Crippled and comatose. Something I regretted the instance I left. I want to go back, but I'm trapped. Stuck in between a rock and a hardplace as he would have said. I'm rolling my eyes as I think that, I can hear his voice saying that exact phrase and I used to tease him about being sappy and cliched. 

I don't have much more time I think. Attacks are getting worse every night. I've lost two more people. I don't know how much longer I can keep them alive. Maybe I won't. And in some morbid way, I don't care. I just want to end it. We have a brief respite now. Maybe they think we're dead already. Or they're getting ready to advance. I swore I heard some screaming a moment ago, and a few gunshots. But I'm not hopeful.

When I gaze does the scope of my rifle. I see a few mercs, loosely acting together, some in custom painted armors, others just wearing civi-cloths. One stands appart fromt he rest, maybe it was just the pitch black hue of his suit, or maybe the metal skeletal-looking arm covered in armor that stood out, bolted to his shoulder. Or maybe it was the Revanant on his back, the same make and model the Jon used. I laughed, almost out loud. There was no way it could be Jon, but I couldn't deny the excitement in my belly at seeing it. One thing is for certain though, with those numbers, I won't last long.

Maybe I'll have that final release and join my father at his side? When I say the black-clad hand move towards the nearest merc and wretch his head violently and snap his neck before pulling his side arm on another. I thought 'Maybe god is on my side tonight after all'.

Ashley's Diary. 
January 24th, 2189

[Lord Zeel]

You know? That wasn't too bad.

Surprisingly. the fanfic here tends to be garbage.

[CptData]

Guess my little fic was a tad too long ^^
No feedback, guys? Talking about Ashley's Spectre-introduction on page 480 ...

Aurora: Love your fics - great as usual :-)
I'm glad you're back. Thread was slow without you ...


Meeeh ... Lord, you don't need to read 'em, if you don't like that stuff <_<

Modifié par CptData, 30 novembre 2011 - 06:46 .

[Lord Zeel]

CptData wrote...



Meeeh ... Lord, you don't need to read 'em, if you don't like that stuff <_<

Oh don't be sour CptData. I consider your fanfics one of the better ones.

But yeah, I don't usually read them unless I'm really really bored. Like right now.

[CptData]

Nahhh, don't get me wrong, Lord Zeel. It's not about my stuff (8 out of 10 fics / dialogues from me are awful tbh) or Aurora's ... there are not many guys writing atm here and those who do are good. It's entertaining to read other ppl's headcanon.

My fav headcanons are from Aurora, Brain & AD btw. :-)

[Olive Oomph]

Gabriel Stelinski wrote...



by alireya
Here's the page.

Saw this and I went 'HOLY CRAP! Only if I could get Williams to look that way...' Man, oh, MAN do I HATE that blue skunk outfit!

Omg! :wub:She looks awesome in that picture. The side parted bob looks amazing on her and if the armor we get will look anything like that, I will be very happy.

I do however don't understand, why a lot of people feel the need to use certain words in their description of the blue uniform - I have infrequently dropped into some of the threads, dscussing her appearance in the general discussion section and it's basically the same guys stating their opinion like it's fact in such a rude way over and over again. If anything is really ugly about that design, it's the way poeple talk about it and I don't want to get involved in that fundamentalist war over what is acceptable for Ashley, but this is now the perfect opportunity to part with my two cents, since this thread generally seems to favor a more positive attitude towards the blue outfit. In my opinion, apart from the unfortunate color choice for the pants it looks good, not as awesome as something else might, but good.
Funny side effect of the discussion: The more the same people keep insulting the uniform, the more I start to love it. The mind is a curious thing.

[snfonseka]

jreezy wrote...

AllianceN7Marine wrote...

Here the other 4 pages I've been working on for the Ashley magazine.

....
I'm still reworking the first 2 pages. Please let me know what you think.

Looks nice but why is her suit pink in that picture?

Exactly my thoughts. Pink is not suitable for a soldier.

AllianceN7Marine wrote...

I recoloured the picture. Still working on trying to match the pink to Ashleys phoneix armor.

Even BW doesn't understand that pink is not suitable for a military armor.

Modifié par snfonseka, 30 novembre 2011 - 07:23 .

[AdmiralCheez]

Olive Oomph wrote...

I do however don't understand, why a lot of people feel the need to use certain words in their description of the blue uniform - I have infrequently dropped into some of the threads, dscussing her appearance in the general discussion section and it's basically the same guys stating their opinion like it's fact in such a rude way over and over again. If anything is really ugly about that design, it's the way poeple talk about it and I don't want to get involved in that fundamentalist war over what is acceptable for Ashley, but this is now the perfect opportunity to part with my two cents, since this thread generally seems to favor a more positive attitude towards the blue outfit. In my opinion, apart from the unfortunate color choice for the pants it looks good, not as awesome as something else might, but good.
Funny side effect of the discussion: The more the same people keep insulting the uniform, the more I start to love it. The mind is a curious thing.

That puritanical BS bugs the hell out of me, too.  It really is just as sexist as only valuing a female character for her looks.  Cleavage and heels are impractical, sure, but it's not like they're evil and degrading 100% of the time.  It's not how a character looks, but how they act and how they are treated by the game (camera angles, etc.) that is demeaning.

This isn't, of course, an excuse to sex up everything, but seriously, it's not a chain mail bikini.

The only thing that bugs me about the outfit itself is the goddamn pants.

[CptData]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Olive Oomph wrote...

I do however don't understand, why a lot of people feel the need to use certain words in their description of the blue uniform - I have infrequently dropped into some of the threads, dscussing her appearance in the general discussion section and it's basically the same guys stating their opinion like it's fact in such a rude way over and over again. If anything is really ugly about that design, it's the way poeple talk about it and I don't want to get involved in that fundamentalist war over what is acceptable for Ashley, but this is now the perfect opportunity to part with my two cents, since this thread generally seems to favor a more positive attitude towards the blue outfit. In my opinion, apart from the unfortunate color choice for the pants it looks good, not as awesome as something else might, but good.
Funny side effect of the discussion: The more the same people keep insulting the uniform, the more I start to love it. The mind is a curious thing.

That puritanical BS bugs the hell out of me, too.  It really is just as sexist as only valuing a female character for her looks.  Cleavage and heels are impractical, sure, but it's not like they're evil and degrading 100% of the time.  It's not how a character looks, but how they act and how they are treated by the game (camera angles, etc.) that is demeaning.

This isn't, of course, an excuse to sex up everything, but seriously, it's not a chain mail bikini.

The only thing that bugs me about the outfit itself is the goddamn pants.

I concur so far that it's sexist to reduce Ashley's character to her looks. I think her new uniform is okay, BW just needs to get rid of those "white panties". Easiest way is to edit that texure so it's no longer white - make it dark blue. "Panties" are gone and the uniform is fine. Also those other concept art uniforms look fine. I don't mind thigh high boots - if Ash likes them, why not?

The only thing that bugs me is Ashley's nose. It was perfect. Why changing her nose? Ash isn't that type of woman that wants (or needs) a cosmetic surgery. Her eyebrows are like her "panties" - it's just editing a texture. Can live with her new brows - after all, women tend to change their looks and style from time to time. Seems as if Ash has decided to plug her brows and make them thinner.

Over all - I don't think there's any reason to lash out against BW or call Ashley "no longer being Ashley" because of her new looks. She'll be Ashley as long as her character feels like the one we know from ME1. The only thing is her nose, and that's only a detail. Maybe BW reviews that issue right now - after all, the character faces are still WIP as long as the game is not done yet.

[xxSgt_Reed_24xx]

Olive Oomph wrote...

Gabriel Stelinski wrote...



by alireya
Here's the page.

Saw this and I went 'HOLY CRAP! Only if I could get Williams to look that way...' Man, oh, MAN do I HATE that blue skunk outfit!

Omg! :wub:She looks awesome in that picture. The side parted bob looks amazing on her and if the armor we get will look anything like that, I will be very happy.

I do however don't understand, why a lot of people feel the need to use certain words in their description of the blue uniform - I have infrequently dropped into some of the threads, dscussing her appearance in the general discussion section and it's basically the same guys stating their opinion like it's fact in such a rude way over and over again. If anything is really ugly about that design, it's the way poeple talk about it and I don't want to get involved in that fundamentalist war over what is acceptable for Ashley, but this is now the perfect opportunity to part with my two cents, since this thread generally seems to favor a more positive attitude towards the blue outfit. In my opinion, apart from the unfortunate color choice for the pants it looks good, not as awesome as something else might, but good.
Funny side effect of the discussion: The more the same people keep insulting the uniform, the more I start to love it. The mind is a curious thing.

B/c it doesn't look like something she would wear. She even speaks out against outfits like that in ME1. It looks terribly unprofessional and it clashes with itself as well. The concept arts are way better, IMO, and look more professional. Sure BW can take Ashley in whatever direction they want, but that doesn't mean I'm just going to accept and roll with it. I'm going to let them know how I feel. The more posts in that thread, the better. 

To me, it's not even really about the outfit... it's what that outfit says about the direction they could be taking her character. Everything from the new brows, eyes, facial structure tweaks, and that outfit say they're taking her into a more feminine roll or eye candry roll... ie an Ashley that's not the Ashley we knew and loved in ME1. I don't want a complete 180 turn around in her character. 

And don't try to say it's character development and with no development characters are bad... she's had plenty of development... hell, she's a spectre... I don't see the reason for changing her looks so drastically. 

I'll leave this quote to end my post,

"Kaidan's look emphasizes what a tough marine he is.  Every shot we've seen of him has been in some form of heavy armor.  Bioware is emphasizing Kaidan's masculinity and Ash's femininity.  Essentially turning them into cliched stereotypes to make them appear more attractive." 

^ Ashley was pretty much the opposite of that in ME1... as a strong, independent type woman. 

THAT is why I'm against that outfit. If it all turns out to be fine and it's just a stupid design idea and they didn't change her character up... I'll be happy.

Modifié par xxSgt_Reed_24xx, 30 novembre 2011 - 08:03 .

[CptData]

I think everything has been said about that outfit.

Seriously, I'd like to now if I can improve something in said fanfic I wrote on p480 - I mean, it was about Ashley's introduction to the Spectres and was following the dialogue between Hackett and Ashley. I just don't wanna repost it here since it can be considered as spamming.

My main issue with Spectre Ashley is, that I can't really imagine how BW wants to explain it canonical. Is Ash a replacement of Shepard or not? In case she is, why her? After all she could be in touch with Shepard and since he's working for Cerberus, is not more trustworthy than the one she has to replace.

Just wondering. Thoughts?

[Aurora313]

My net is stil unreliable atm. Will be lurking, not commenting. But thanks Lord Zeel for the compliment. It's part of my Halcyon series, which will hopefully debut soon.

[Mr. Brainheart]

@Data; I'd love to say something about yout p480 fic, but I'm really busy atm. Oh time where art thou?..Oh and thanks

I like the ldesign of those pages Alliance, again though no time to read the text.

About the outfit: It's casual wear, she's wearing it at an Alliance HQ. Times have changed in since ME1. Nobody in the universe had a problem with Miranda's outfit, so apparently it's not that weird to wear something impractical..Why can't Ashley have changed her opinion on clothes, maybe she likes something a little out of the ordinary. This does not require an enormous leap in logic on her side, but only a subtle change in opinion/a slight progression in character can warrant for it.

Even then as we all know, later in the game she'll get some armour. I'm not very fond of the new outfit myself, but it certainly doesn't have to be out of character, that's pretty assumptious. I don't see what the big deal is here.

[ADLegend21]

Preach brainheart. 3 years does a lot to a person.

[ADLegend21]

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

B/c it doesn't look like something she would wear. She even speaks out against outfits like that in ME1.

Yeah and She also speaks out against Wrex and Garrus having free roam of the ship, I'm guessing that's a deeper held belief than "Light armor sucks yo"

[CptData]

Mr. Brainheart wrote...

@Data; I'd love to say something about yout p480 fic, but I'm really busy atm. Oh time where art thou?..Oh and thanks

I like the ldesign of those pages Alliance, again though no time to read the text.

About the outfit: It's casual wear, she's wearing it at an Alliance HQ. Times have changed in since ME1. Nobody in the universe had a problem with Miranda's outfit, so apparently it's not that weird to wear something impractical..Why can't Ashley have changed her opinion on clothes, maybe she likes something a little out of the ordinary. This does not require an enormous leap in logic on her side, but only a subtle change in opinion/a slight progression in character can warrant for it.

Even then as we all know, later in the game she'll get some armour. I'm not very fond of the new outfit myself, but it certainly doesn't have to be out of character, that's pretty assumptious. I don't see what the big deal is here.

Feel free to post whenever you want ^^

I think it has nothing to do with Miranda's outfit Ashley is wearing her new "hawt" uniform. Guess she simply wanted something new for off duty / official duty. For combat she'll pick a good ol' armor. Want have!

[ADLegend21]

Ashley's a grown owman who can wear whatever she wants. Shepard doesn't have a say over her outfit outside the game mechanics of fitting the squad for missions. I pty the foo' that tells her what to wear.

[SilentK]

I like the fanfics that you guys post here =) lurk sometimes just to get a better idea of who Ash is.

Keep em coming, love it.

[ADLegend21]

Question for you guys. Would Arrival have been a better DLC if the VS had shown up to save Shepard after they were knocked out by Object Rho?

[PMC65]

Okay .. I was not going to come back to the BSN until after the release of ME3 due to the spoilers but the urge to check in here was too great. And once again we are talking about Ashley's clothes?

I come from the Ellen Ripley generation. Where we finally saw a female that outlasted everyone in combat against the toughest enemy ever seen in movies ... Alien. I was almost 14 when that movie released and it was inspiring to a young girl who had always seen men playing the hero/survivor. 

It was Ripley's determination, wits, fearlessness and a little singing that got her through ... not armor or even big guns.

So I personally don't care if Ashley comes out in a Jane Fonda 60's Sci-Fi inspired outfit as long as her willingness to get back into the fight like on Eden Prime, her sense of humor like on Noveria and her soldier ability is still there.

And am I the only one who when playing Mass Effect rolled their eyes when she appeared in WHITE & PINK armor? Really? A soldier in that outfit? But her personality made me like her not what she was wearing. So whatever she wears is A-OK with me ... even if it is white & pink.

And Ripley is still the toughest gal to date in my book ... She don't need no stinkin' armor!



Just my 2-cents and back to not reading what is on the BSN to avoid spoilers. OPA!!!!!!

[CptData]

Hey, another Ripley fan ^^ I dunno how old I was when first Alien got released, but I was certainly too young. ^^

ADLegend21 wrote...

Question for you guys. Would Arrival have been a better DLC if the VS had shown up to save Shepard after they were knocked out by Object Rho?

I'd say that entire mission would have been better with the VS being part of that from the beginning. The VS and Shepard get separated so Shepard can sneak in while the VS is covering his/her back and sabotaging the prison. Shepard frees Kenson and there's a brief meeting with the VS. Both go to the asteroid, but the VS stays back at the shuttle to upload mission summary of freeing Kenson.

From there on everything happens like we know: Shepard gets defeated by Object Rho. The VS fled when sensing the trap and prepares to bust Shepard out - at that moment, you can take control over the VS and rescue Shepard. For the rest of the game Shepard and the VS work together.

The finale of the DLC includes a meeting in Shepards loft.

By the way: i think the DLC should have TWO versions of Arrival. The first one picked directly after Horizon; the VS is not part of the mission. If you do "Arrival" after the SM, the VS is part of the mission.

Just my thoughts.

[ADLegend21]

Well, I'm thinking more along the lines of Hackett Sends Shepard in, no respose for 2 days so he sends in the VS to check on Shepard and the VS finds Shepard knocked out and helps them out of the thing and will testify for Shepard during the trial. As well as getting a reunion scene and maybe getting to visit the VS's apartment on the citadel or something.