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Rdubs wrote...

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I read the script. It has more lines.


I could make the same claim, of course there's no way to prove or disprove that.  However you haven't given us any reason to think you're making that up so all I have to say is....1) jealous of your contacts or however you managed to do so, and 2) that's great news that there's something more to look forward to, and I thank you for mentioning it.  I'm feeling a little better that maybe she'll act like she still feels something towards Shepard even before they have a chance to really talk.  Regardless, March 6th can't get here soon enough...now I look forward to seeing the differences between the beta (w/o romance) and the final (w/ romance) as much as I looked forward to seeing the opening.

I've been worried about what happens with Ashley ever since Chris L'Etoile (her original writer) left.


If you want spoiled, I could give you the link, if you're that interested.

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Thus is the way of the "ninjamance", it seems.

I don't think there's any help I can provide, seeing as how the only male Shepard I've made is romancing Ashley. I can, however, at least confirm she's not the only case. My first Shepard was a woman, and no matter how platonic I tried to keep the conversation, Kaidan kept thinking I was sending signals, and rumors would spread. Not that I didn't like the guy, but I had a certain turian in mind for this particular Shepard.

Then, in the sequel, I deliberately avoided saying things like "I want you, Thane", but I still got a "Siha" at the end. I don't even think there's any way around that, so I just had to stop talking to him. You can guess how many times I talked to Jacob. Sad, since I actually like the guy.

Also, with the manShep I was romancing Ash with, I thought I had made it very clear to Liara that I was not the least bit interested in her. I stopped short of yelling at her, even though that wouldn't have been too out of character. So even though I told her that I cared about Ash (a lot!) and that I did not see her in that way... I still got a confrontation.

Just seems to be an issue with the mechanics... if the character is romanceable, they automatically assume the fact that you're talking to them means you're interested, and rarely can you just dodge it. It's not really Ashley's fault, things were... a bit limited.


There's a bug with Liara where if you use the renegade rejection she keeps romancing you. Yeah my renedouche got caught up in that and I was pretty WTF about it. :blink: (worse because renedouche is extremely harsh to her [I think the comment is something about her species being disgusting] so her continuing to like him is just...mind boggling).

Oh and yeah...Ash pics to make up for me derailing Ash thread. Sorry guys.

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#12928
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MegaBadExample wrote...

If you want spoiled, I could give you the link, if you're that interested.


Okay so I just googled "mass effect 3 script" and see what you're getting at, apparently some pretty smart Russians looked into the Beta code and found a lot more script than shown in the video.  Interesting.  It also says they're changing the script a little post-leak.  I'm good for now, I didn't mind a little spoiler to take the edge off but much more and it would be too much.  Thanks for pointing that out though.

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MegaBadExample wrote...

Rdubs wrote...

MegaBadExample wrote...

I read the script. It has more lines.


I could make the same claim, of course there's no way to prove or disprove that.  However you haven't given us any reason to think you're making that up so all I have to say is....1) jealous of your contacts or however you managed to do so, and 2) that's great news that there's something more to look forward to, and I thank you for mentioning it.  I'm feeling a little better that maybe she'll act like she still feels something towards Shepard even before they have a chance to really talk.  Regardless, March 6th can't get here soon enough...now I look forward to seeing the differences between the beta (w/o romance) and the final (w/ romance) as much as I looked forward to seeing the opening.

I've been worried about what happens with Ashley ever since Chris L'Etoile (her original writer) left.


If you want spoiled, I could give you the link, if you're that interested.


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hmm interrting I always thought thermal clips prevented heat based explosions. go figure.

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She looks more mature in ME3. I didn't think I'd like her new look that much, I thought she'd look too much like Miranda and 'sex her up' too much. But they did a good job.

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I think someone in the comments said it's the eyebrows that do most of the damage and I have to agree.
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EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

hmm interrting I always thought thermal clips prevented heat based explosions. go figure.

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She looks more mature in ME3. I didn't think I'd like her new look that much, I thought she'd look too much like Miranda and 'sex her up' too much. But they did a good job.

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Rdubs wrote...

I think someone in the comments said it's the eyebrows that do most of the damage and I have to agree.
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Indeed. I think they should just put the old eyebrows back on there and BIP, BAP, BAM! Image IPB

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Rdubs wrote...

I think someone in the comments said it's the eyebrows that do most of the damage and I have to agree.
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I think it's more that the facial and lip animations are just barely there since it's beta. 

Also every single mass effect character looks awful if you catch them mid sentence. (not saying ash looks awful in the above pic)

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she looks fine. 

Modifié par Complistic, 12 décembre 2011 - 06:55 .


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ADLegend21 wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

She looks more mature in ME3. I didn't think I'd like her new look that much, I thought she'd look too much like Miranda and 'sex her up' too much. But they did a good job.

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I choose "Both" - she looks more mature, and also looks like her eyebrows are busted. 
In talking about the leaked beta and how they were going to make changes based on feedback, the Bioware spokesman said they monitor the forums and listen to fan feedback and how it is so important them.  Well, here's a good test to see if that's even remotely true.  I think everyone on this thread wishes Ash's eyebrows would get fixed.  Hell I just looked at my avatar picture from that CGI trailer for the first game and look how much better her eyebrows look there than the beta.  It's sad actually - they capture PERFECTLY the way Ash turns around and looks at Shepard as he walks by, every possible human detail is captured in her face.  It's like one group is in charge of cutting edge cinematic realism, and another group in charge of horrendous facial features.
My money's on, everyone get ready for gorilla brows come March 6th and then hope there aren't a lot of shots which show them.

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ADLegend21 wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

hmm interrting I always thought thermal clips prevented heat based explosions. go figure.

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She looks more mature in ME3. I didn't think I'd like her new look that much, I thought she'd look too much like Miranda and 'sex her up' too much. But they did a good job.

Good to see I'm not the only one that thinks that.Image IPB


Hmm, I dunno. She's still Ashley, but her brighter skin bothers me a bit. I hope it's just a) either unfinished or B) the light. Seriously, I think old Ash is one of the sexiest women in the franchise, especially because of her darker skin and her hispanic influence.

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Complistic wrote...

Rdubs wrote...

I think someone in the comments said it's the eyebrows that do most of the damage and I have to agree.
http://www.gameranx....rilla-makeover/


I think it's more that the facial and lip animations are just barely there since it's beta. 

Also every single mass effect character looks awful if you catch them mid sentence. (not saying ash looks awful in the above pic)


she looks fine. 

True the pic in that article is less then favorable, but I have to say that the eyebrows are indeed a bigger issue then it seemed to me at first. I don't want to judge skin-tone yet, since that might've been due to some weird lighting, but the new eyebrows aren't exactly an improvement in looks for Ash.

Now where's that comparison-pic by Cheez? That really showed very clearly how much more Ash her face looks like with the brows.

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Okay, guys. It's been a darn long time, but here you go: Part V of Ashley's family dialogue.

Part I & II
Part III
Part IV
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Ashley: Okay, John will need some time. Need some minutes with you alone, Abby.
Abby: Yeah. Thanks. I like him much, he seems to be a really nice guy.
Ashley: Don't call him "nice guy" ... he hates that *laughs*
Abby: So it's true - he's that war hero everyone talks about?
Ashley: Yup.
Abby: And you don't think EVERY woman in this galaxy wants to get in his pants?
Ashley: I'm sure they want ... I met some of them already.
Abby: Jealous?
Ashley: Yeah ...
Abby: A bit, a bit more or really jealous?
Ashley: Hmm, guess "really jealous". I'm not stalking him or something - I just can't bear the thought he could lose interest in me one day ... there are so many more fascinating women out there ...
Abby: Now you're talking rubbish. The only women that can compete with you are your sisters *smiles*
Ashley: Never utter a humble statement, sis?
*laughter*
Abby: Nop. You know us. They called us "The Sisters". I mean, do you remember those times in college? You were almost done when Lynn finished high school.  We three - Sarah was too young - and at least one of us had a date every week.
Ashley: You forgot to tell the part when we dumped our so called "lovers". *laughs*
Abby: Uh yes. Not a single guy could bear us longer than a month or so. The boyfriend I had for the longest time was Fred ... and only because I told him I would break his arm if he ever breaks up with me.
Ashley: Oh, I remember him. Never saw a boy so much crying.
Abby: And Larry? Remember that guy? I think he was the son of one of the teachers ... Myers or so. I guess he tried to get in my pants for more than a year. And when I finally found out about that, I had to drag him off Lynn.
Ashley: That was the only time you two were yelling at each other. God, mom thought you two would kill each other. She threw me right in the middle of you two ...
Abby: I broke your arm.
Ashley: Yeah ...
Abby: Good ol' times, sis ...
Ashley: Good ol' times, indeed.
Abby: *sigh*
Ashley: Know what? I think none of those guys were good enough for us.
Abby: Guess so. The only one worthy was Lucas. What was his name? Lucas Diggory?
Ashley: Lucas DiCorian.
Abby: Ahh okay. Yeah, that guy was tough. His dad was a marine and he knew our dad.
Ashley: Yeah. Too bad Lucas was an ass. I mean, he tried to date me. When I said "no", he tried to date you. I think you said "yes" - until you found out his only interest was to give you a nice ride - and not with his bike. And after you kicked him off your list, Lucas went after Lynn. Thank god Sarah was too young, I bet he would have tried it with her too.
Abby: Yeah. Heard he became a marine, like his dad. Did you meet him?
Ashley: No. But I had to go through some of those lists ... he's MIA. No one knows where he could be. Most likely he's dead but ... who knows.
Abby: Hope he comes back. I mean, he was an ass, but no one deserves to die ...
Ashley: You're right.
Abby: So, and what about Shepard and those women you fear?
Ashley: I hoped you wouldn't start again with that ...
Abby: C'mon sis -
Ashley: Okay. Yes, I fear I could lose Shepard. 
Abby: Why that?
Ashley: Why? Because he's a goddamn hero, an idol and a living legend. That alone is enough.
Abby: But isn't it what you are?
Ashley: That doesn't count. Abby, you know me. I never had something serious that got any longer than a few months. And now I'm going to spend the rest of my life with one man.
Abby: That's a good thing, Ash.
Ashley: Yes. I just don't wanna lose him.
Abby: Then ensure you won't lose him.
Ashley: How?
Abby: Be a Williams. Fight for what you want and you'll earn it.
Ashley: Can hear dad speaking.
Abby: And he is right.
Ashley: Thanks sis. Sometimes I need to hear his words again ...
Abby: You're welcome, Ash.
Ashley: I'm thirsty. Where's is John?
Abby: He'll be here soon I guess.
Ashley: Hope so.
Abby: By the way, what women did you meet and fear?
Ashley: Actually, only two. I mean ... only two who definitely wanted something from John.
Abby: Names ...
Ashley: One of the was-
*door opens*
Shepard: I'm back. Who wanted the cappuccino? 

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#12939
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CptData wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

hmm interrting I always thought thermal clips prevented heat based explosions. go figure.

Top Ash

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She looks more mature in ME3. I didn't think I'd like her new look that much, I thought she'd look too much like Miranda and 'sex her up' too much. But they did a good job.

Good to see I'm not the only one that thinks that.Image IPB


Hmm, I dunno. She's still Ashley, but her brighter skin bothers me a bit. I hope it's just a) either unfinished or B) the light. Seriously, I think old Ash is one of the sexiest women in the franchise, especially because of her darker skin and her hispanic influence.

She's been in space for three years. You don't get alot of natural sunlight on starships and when you stay in inside long enough your skin lightens. taht and the lighitng is much better than the cave like SR-1.

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ADLegend21 wrote...

CptData wrote...

Hmm, I dunno. She's still Ashley, but her brighter skin bothers me a bit. I hope it's just a) either unfinished or B) the light. Seriously, I think old Ash is one of the sexiest women in the franchise, especially because of her darker skin and her hispanic influence.

She's been in space for three years. You don't get alot of natural sunlight on starships and when you stay in inside long enough your skin lightens. taht and the lighitng is much better than the cave like SR-1.


I'm not sure if ppl with a darker base complexion can lose it. Ashley is clearly hispanic (at least 25%) and comes with a darker skin color. I don't think it'll turn to almost white within a few years. I mean, Anderson is still black :blink:


Whatever, maybe it's just the light.


--- edit ---

Part VI anyone? :police:

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CptData wrote...

Hmm, I dunno. She's still Ashley, but her brighter skin bothers me a bit. I hope it's just a) either unfinished or B) the light. Seriously, I think old Ash is one of the sexiest women in the franchise, especially because of her darker skin and her hispanic influence.

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CptData wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

CptData wrote...

Hmm, I dunno. She's still Ashley, but her brighter skin bothers me a bit. I hope it's just a) either unfinished or B) the light. Seriously, I think old Ash is one of the sexiest women in the franchise, especially because of her darker skin and her hispanic influence.

She's been in space for three years. You don't get alot of natural sunlight on starships and when you stay in inside long enough your skin lightens. taht and the lighitng is much better than the cave like SR-1.


I'm not sure if ppl with a darker base complexion can lose it. Ashley is clearly hispanic (at least 25%) and comes with a darker skin color. I don't think it'll turn to almost white within a few years. I mean, Anderson is still black :blink:


Whatever, maybe it's just the light.


--- edit ---

Part VI anyone? :police:


THere' a diference between a tan and an actual skin color. Anderson's ethnicity black, period. Ashley is of mixed ethinicity and was stationed on eden prime where she had plenty of time to get a tan. with no natural light and no tanning booths on alliance ships, I'm guessing her tan faded over 3 years (heck mine fade in september haha) so she's just a little lighter than she was 3 years ago. She's still got most of her color and she's not pale.

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Hm, I believe, I showed this comparison screenshots. It's just a play of light.
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As for the eyebrows ... Well, I sincerely hope they will fix this. It is simply unrealistic to her eyebrows were so lighter than before.

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Deelane wrote...

Hm, I believe, I showed this comparison screenshots. It's just a play of light.
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As for the eyebrows ... Well, I sincerely hope they will fix this. It is simply unrealistic to her eyebrows were so lighter than before.




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@CptData great part V well worth the wait. I can just see it now at the Williams house Shepard sitting at the dinner table surounded on all sides by the "Williams Women". He'll be wishing he was facing an entire reaper fleet single handed than sitting at that table.

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Burneye Is God wrote...

wow Image IPB graphics look insane



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Complistic wrote...

Burneye Is God wrote...

wow Image IPB graphics look insane



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Graphics and buns

Two things that are forever intertwined :D

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So I recently wrote a one shot for my friend where Kaidan found her on the citadel and sang a odified version of Elton John's "tiny dancer" to Shepard. Since Ashley seems like a woman who goes after the things she wants, anyone think she'd do something romantic For him/her?

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ADLegend21 wrote...

So I recently wrote a one shot for my friend where Kaidan found her on the citadel and sang a odified version of Elton John's "tiny dancer" to Shepard. Since Ashley seems like a woman who goes after the things she wants, anyone think she'd do something romantic For him/her?


Think Ash will write a poem or something. I mean, she loves poems, why shouldn't she try writing one on her own? However, she's a crappy writer in my headcanon, therefore it doesn't work out well. Shepard doesn't mind, he thinks it's cute :lol:

Another idea is that Ash simply shows a secret location she had visited in her childhood. Some special place only she knows of and she wants to share it with Shepard.


Uhh and gn8 guys. Last Ash from me. Also fixed some issues with Part V.

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Will write a short Horizon dialogue tomorrow for you ^^

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... *shrug?*

Don't mind me, just entertaining myself.  =]