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Well then, in the meantime let's just try to discuss the topic I brought up (or any other topic brought up by anyone else) in order to push that image as far away from us as possible.

EDIT: YES, new page!!

To reiterate:

Well, in the effort to talk about something else and move away from the
trauma of this situation, let's go back to the discussion about
merchendising for the VS with the following question?
How would you
feel if you heard there was going to be a bishojou statue of Ashley
(something I'm sure is actually going to happen some day)?
Would you
be outraged, disgusted or maybe excited for some kind of merchendise
centered around one of your favorites being immortalized into statue
form?

Personally, I would have a mixed reaction and it would
depend on the nature of the statue itself. I wouldn't mind the existence
of a sexy statue of Ashley, provided it still actually captured her
personality and essence and gave her strength and dignity. I certainly
wouldn't be pleased if Kotako went the route of 'baby faced pornstar'
like the original design for Liara.
But then again the fact that
they actually reduced her bust size and gave her a face that actually
looked human and adult as a sort of response to the, righteous, response
to it and actually reduced her bust size and gave her an 'adult' face
gives me the ever so slight reason to believe that a anime style statue
of Ashley could (emphasis on could) not turn out to be a disaster.

That
said, I wouldn't be able to properly have an opinion on it until I
actually saw the thing and even then it would have to be pretty
dignified and respectful to the character for my reaction to not be
riddled with hostility. All the same, I have many pop culture icons
adorning my shelf, I certainly wouldn't mind Ashley being up there some
day.

But still, where would the rest of you stand on that?

P.S new page, new Ash. Vaguely risque, let me know if you think it's too much.

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V-rex wrote...

Well, in the effort to talk about something else and move away from the trauma of this situation, let's go back to the discussion about merchendising for the VS with the following question?
How would you feel if you heard there was going to be a bishojou statue of Ashley (something I'm sure is actually going to happen some day)?
Would you be outraged, disgusted or maybe excited for some kind of merchendise centered around one of your favorites being immortalized into statue form?

*snip*But still, where would the rest of you stand on that?

Well, I wouldn't be inclined to buy it, that's for sure, but I wouldn't be offended by it either since it is (atleast I think it is) the stye of those kind of statues. So someone who likes the style would probably appreciate that the characters have been converted into that style.

At the same time I'd rather see more realistic statues that are more fitting with the games. Such oversexualisation doesn't seem to fit Ash, but neither does it fit Liara. It's just inherently a problem/clash with the source material and I wonder how much market there really is for these statues. In the end I won't be outraged by it, nor would I be excited, it's just something that doesn't cater to me, so I'd have no reason to complain about it, although It's still weird that they choose for this style.

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Mr. Brainheart wrote...

At the same time I'd rather see more realistic statues that are more fitting with the games. Such oversexualisation doesn't seem to fit Ash, but neither does it fit Liara. It's just inherently a problem/clash with the source material and I wonder how much market there really is for these statues. In the end I won't be outraged by it, nor would I be excited, it's just something that doesn't cater to me, so I'd have no reason to complain about it, although It's still weird that they choose for this style.


Yeah, I agree with that. Personally I'd prefer a statue that's done in a 'realistic' style over the anime one (or hell even just a standard action figure) but I get the feeling it's going to be only Bishojou, at least for a while.

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V-rex wrote...

Well, in the effort to talk about something else and move away from the trauma of this situation, let's go back to the discussion about merchendising for the VS with the following question?
How would you feel if you heard there was going to be a bishojou statue of Ashley (something I'm sure is actually going to happen some day)?
Would you be outraged, disgusted or maybe excited for some kind of merchendise centered around one of your favorites being immortalized into statue form?

Personally, I would have a mixed reaction and it would depend on the nature of the statue itself. I wouldn't mind the existence of a sexy statue of Ashley, provided it still actually captured her personality and essence and gave her strength and dignity. I certainly wouldn't be pleased if Kotako went the route of 'baby faced pornstar' like the original design for Liara.
But then again the fact that they actually reduced her bust size and gave her a face that actually looked human and adult as a sort of response to the, righteous, response to it and actually reduced her bust size and gave her an 'adult' face gives me the ever so slight reason to believe that a anime style statue of Ashley could (emphasis on could) not turn out to be a disaster.

That said, I wouldn't be able to properly have an opinion on it until I actually saw the thing and even then it would have to be pretty dignified and respectful to the character for my reaction to not be riddled with hostility. All the same, I have many pop culture icons adorning my shelf, I certainly wouldn't mind Ashley being up there some day.

But still, where would the rest of you stand on that?


I'd buy it. lol

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The irony of this title is amazing.

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xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...


I'd buy it. lol




Strange, meaning no offence Reed but I'd figured you'd be much more likely to burn it at the stake. Given how openly (and rightfully) you spoke out about Ashley's casual outfit.

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V-rex wrote...

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...


I'd buy it. lol




Strange, meaning no offence Reed but I'd figured you'd be much more likely to burn it at the stake. Given how openly (and rightfully) you spoke out about Ashley's casual outfit.


Yes, but Ashley has no merch whatsoever and if she got one, I'd like to be able to own it. Show my love for the character and what not, ya know? 

That said, I would indeed prefer a phoenix armored or N7 armored Ashley statue over a ME3 hooker suit statue. 

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xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...



Yes, but Ashley has no merch whatsoever and if she got one, I'd like to be able to own it. Show my love for the character and what not, ya know?

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Yeah, that's my mindset as well. I just want some kind of Ashley figure on my shelf, to be honest.
Because I love Ashley but the day is going to come, years after I've played Mass Effect 3 and gotten my resolution where I'm going to move on and it would be nice if I could just have a little figure of her somewhere on my desk or shelf as a little permenant reminder of the character I grew to like so much, that I may look back with fondness.

Modifié par V-rex, 27 décembre 2011 - 12:53 .


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Michael: I'm back.
Ashley: Is that you, Michael?
Michael: Yep. Looks like not much happened since I left. Anything new?
Ashley: Nah, not really. Maybe your buddies tell ya, I've got plenty of stuff to do.
Michael: May I ask what "stuff"?
Ashley: New Year's Eve stuff. Garrus helps me calibrating the main gun and Tali is re-programming the shield pattern for some special effects. Just don't tell John.
Michael: I try my best. Glad to be back again. And also ... I really miss my homeland. Being in space for two years now ... mean, I always dreamed of being in space, but never thought it would feel like that. I'm not a spacer like you or John.
Ashley: Like me? Hey, I thought you know me better. All I want is to end that war and get a nice house on a colony with John and our friends. That's it.
Michael: And I still believe you love space ...
Ashley: I do. It's just no ideal place for a family and children. And maybe you'll realize it one day.
Michael: Think I did. Speaking of an ideal place to settle down ... my home colony is a great place. Even better than Eden Prime, but I'm biased.
Ashley: Think you said it's "New Dresden", right? A nearly pure Saxon colony.
Michael: Yeah ... home sweet home *smiles*
Ashley: We'll see, once this entire mess is over.
Michael: By the way ... did ANYTHING happen?
Ashley: As I said, ask the rest of the crew.
Michael: And what about Christmas?
Ashley: Oh that. Now that you're talking about ... sorry. We had something different to do lately. A mission ...
Michael: Whatever - merry christmas for you too. I even got a small present for you.
Ashley: *opens package* That's a ring!
Michael: It's a "best friends ring". Think it was appropriate ... Shepard got one from me too.
Ashley: Thank you, Michael *kisses on cheek*
Michael: :wub:

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I'd buy anything ashley realted from bioware as long as it wasn't something that made fun of her or something.

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ADLegend21 wrote...

I'd buy anything ashley realted from bioware as long as it wasn't something that made fun of her or something.


Lets hope BW won't do any funny stuff with her. At least nothing that's un-Ashley. We know Ash has a very enjoyable funny side lingering under her tough shell. Funny doesn't mean dumb. And Ash is one of few characters not acting dumb or naive in ME. With exception of the Beacon in ME1.

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No I meant like something some of her haters would say. like a shirt with her picture on it and it says "xenophobes anonymous" or something aboutt her being a religious zealot or a man. that sort of thing.

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ADLegend21 wrote...

No I meant like something some of her haters would say. like a shirt with her picture on it and it says "xenophobes anonymous" or something aboutt her being a religious zealot or a man. that sort of thing.


Ahh okay. Guess I consider this as "lost in translation" :P


Ashley: What is this, Skipper?
Shepard: It's my new mug.
Ashley: I see. And why does it say: "I'm betrothed to an alien hating religious zealot with family issues?"
Shepard: Uhh ... because I got it from one of those fans ... you know ... the guys in the "Official Shepard Fanclub" Conrad Verner founded three years ago.
Ashley: Guess those fans are no big supporters of our relationship, huh?
Shepard: Maybe. Do you care?
Ashley: No. I just don't wanna see that offending mug in your hands again, Sir.
Shepard: No problem. What about this one? *shows another mug*
Ashley: "I love to do blue squidheads." ... uhh ... no.
Shepard: And this one?
Ashley: "I'm in your bed banging your Gunnery Chief."
Shepard: Still a no-go? Hmm ... this one is great!
Ashley: "Miranda ... Ashley ... Miranda ... Ashley ... a f*ck it, I do both!" - I hope this isn't real.
Shepard: I give up. Still have some T-Shirts left, but ...
Ashley: Your current one says: "She calls me Skipper. I call her Ash." ... I can accept this.
Shepard: Check out my backside.
Ashley: *sees an entirely naked Ashley* ... oooookay ... think that's a no-go, Mister.
Joker: Hey guys, look what I found! *shows T-Shirt*
Shepard: It says "BURN IT WITH FIRE!" - and shows a Phoenix Armor with a skull?!
Ashley: Seriously, someone wants to get me on my bad side. Who brought you that stuff?
Verner: Guess it's bad timing if I say that was me?

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Lol, Data, watch out! you're giving people ideas! The t-shirt with the entirely naked ash on the back though...That's not so bad.
(well maybe it is)

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I don't know why this popped in my head, but I was thinking about Ash and poetry and then it somehow got related to Ash talking to Jack about poetry and what they might of written in the past, what their favourites are, etc. Good icebreaker for future banter.

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spiros9110 wrote...

I don't know why this popped in my head, but I was thinking about Ash and poetry and then it somehow got related to Ash talking to Jack about poetry and what they might of written in the past, what their favourites are, etc. Good icebreaker for future banter.


Jack & Ash talking about stuff instead playing matter-antimatter? Hmmm, nice idea - I support this. And most likely because I start liking Jack ...


Goodnight Ashley:
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Shepard: 'We're oft to blame, and tis too much proved, that with devotion's visage and pious action we do sugar o'vr the devil himself.'
Ashley: Wait, I know this one. It's...
Shepard: Go on, take your time.
Ashley: Sounds very Shakespearian.
Shepard: On the right track.
Ashley: It's... uh, Hamlet?
Shepard: That's my girl.
Ashley: Why that?
Shepard: More elegant than saying 'Eat Sh!t and die, dirtbag'.
Ashley: That's what you're gonna say when you see Kai Leng again.
Shepard: Yeah. Screw interrogating him. I'm gonna shot him through the gut with a bolt gun then in the head.
Ashley: ... is it me, or your elaborate revenge fantasies are getting more elaborate.
Shepard: Two weeks stuck on a bed because that ****** nearly broke my spine? What do you think?
Ashley: Testy. But don't you think that's a little much?
Shepard: ...
Ashley: ...
Shepard+Ash: Nah!

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Preordered ME3 today, just have to wait till the release date... can't wait for it, mainly can't wait till i have Ashley back on my squad, she is my favorite squad member. best person to take along with my Shepard in ME (he was an adept and was seriously too nice).

Also - Love all the dialogue that everyone posts, awesome stuff. keep the good work up :)

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Ashley disapproves slow thread. Where are you guys? Holidays? Family stuff?

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I like her ^^

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Well, I'm dealing with a severe case of writer's block, coupled with bored, laziness and the annoying desire to get fit and healthy again. I don't know about these other guys.

Unfortunately, I've not got a lot of ideas at the moment. All my big discussion topics are gone and all my good dialogue subjects are already used up. Got nothing.

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Ouch, sorry to hear that, Aurora ... :(

Still have some ideas, but I fear I'm going to run out of them before March. Which is bad. Still have that Ashley-family-chapter for flirty Sarah on my desk, besides that: nothing.

Fit? Oh yes, I hope I'll get rid of 20 lbs ...

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Ashley: ... The Beast.
Shepard: Nope.
Ashley: Belle.
Shepard: Nada.
Ashley: Uh... who else is there? Maurice?
Shepard: Not him.
Pierce: What are you two doing?
Shepard: She's trying to guess who I hated most out of a Disney movie.
Pierce: Which one is it this time?
Shepard: Beauty and the Beast.
Pierce: I LOVE that movie!
Ashley: Care for some insight here, Roxi?
Pierce: Sorry, on your own.
Ashley: But do you know at least?
Pierce: Oh gosh, yes. But If I tell you then Jon'll take away my gun-privilages.
Shepard: I'm a mean brother.
Ashley: I get that impression. Uh... Darn it! I can't remember any other characters: Lumiere?
Shepard: Nope. Give up.
Ashley: Yes, I give up.
Shepard: Gaston.
Ashley: Seriously?
Shepard: God yes!
Pierce: Come on, that guy is freaking creepy!
Shepard: And a dick. What kind of rat-bag treats the woman he has his eye on like that?
Ashley: Well - Jon.
Pierce: To be fair, you did die-slash-disappear for two years.
Shepard: ... What kind of rat-bag INTENTIONALLY treats the woman he wants like that?
Ashley: Better.

Modifié par Aurora313, 28 décembre 2011 - 12:20 .


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Don't ask me why they're talking about Disney movies... pretty sure Ash and Shepard just got bored on morning and starting asking about childhood stuff over breakfast.

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either that or they run out of things to shoot. Keep up the good work Aurora313. Your dialogues gett better and better.

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redbaron76 wrote...

either that or they run out of things to shoot. Keep up the good work Aurora313. Your dialogues gett better and better.


Impossible. When you reach max level, you stop levelling and Aurora's already max level +1 when it comes to dialogues :lol:


Ashley: He loves me, he loves me not, he loves me, he loves me not, he loves me ...
Shepard: Hey Ash. What's up?
Ashley: Skip! Why do you always sneak up from behind?!
Shepard: Just an old habit. Used to do that since N7 training camp.
Ashley: It's an awful habit.
Shepard: Guess so. Now, what's up? Why the flower?
Ashley: Uh ... that's nothing. And how are you?
Shepard: I'm fine. And I saw you.
Ashley: *sigh* okay, Skip. I still wonder if you're honest to me - or if I'm just another prize. Another f*ck for Mr. Handsome.
Shepard: Yes.
Ashley: You sound like Legion. Do you mind to answer that question?
Shepard: Sure. I'm just not sure if you like it.
Ashley: You said you're not playing games. And now I'm not sure if that's still true. You changed, I changed. And since I've got you back, our nights are filled with passion, but ... I miss that one feeling. The burning desire to be with me in your eyes.
Shepard: It's still in there, Ashley ... I feel like in our first night. When a dream became true.
Ashley: You never told me about that dream. I mean, every officer in the Alliance dreams of that - doing it with someone under their command.
Shepard: I can hear the cynic. And you're wrong, Ash. It's not that selfish dream. It's more ... 
Ashley: Yes?
Shepard: People like me don't have families. My mother and my father rarely saw (and still see) each other. Sometimes I was with dad, then with mom - I wouldn't call it a family. When I met you, a dream became true. Because I found something in you ... I found the feeling of family. I felt right not because of the sex - it was that feeling of "being home, with my family".
Ashley: ... err ... wow. No idea what to say ...
Shepard: Then don't. Enjoy the view *hits a button and the shutter opens, revealing a beautiful sight on Thessia*

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