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[Aurora313]

Ashley: John...?
Shepard: Hey Ash. Come in.
Ashley: Yeah, actually I'm here to kick you out.
Shepard: Who to what. now?
Ashley: Down in Starboard Observation, the crew's having a party.
Shepard: What? Why?
Ashley: Uh, because it's the new year this evening?
Shepard: Really? Holy sh - I didn't even realise.
Ashley: So do you want to move your ass, or do I have to drag you?
Shepard: Throw in a spanking and we have a deal.
Ashley: *punches him lightly on the shoulder* Coming, yay or nay?
Shepard: This is totally not gonna be fun.
Ashley: Oh come on!
Shepard: What? I have an addicting personality Ash. Me and drugs don't mix.
Ashley: Don't worry, there's plenty of soda and non-alcoholic stuff.
Shepard: Good. If anyone tries to slip me anything though, I'll gut them like a fish and flush their innards out the airlock.
Ashley: You're a very creepy kill joy.
Shepard: Give me ten minutes, I'll see you there *leaves for bathroom*
Ashley: *to omni-tool* Joker, abort plan. I repeat, abort plan!

----

Joker: What the ****? After everything -!
Ashley: Do you want to be gutted?
Joker: ... He's a goddamned kill-joy.
Vega: What happened?
Joker: Shepard's being a sulk. Doesn't want to get drunk.
Vega: After all the planning?!
Joker: I know!
Vega: What a wuss!
Shepard: I'm listening in, you know. And I heard everything.
A+J+V: *screams/yelps*

Top Ash

Modifié par Aurora313, 31 décembre 2011 - 09:15 .

[CptData]

ADLegend21 wrote...

@Data: even though you're gone I'v egot to say, Miranda doens't blindly follow anyone. She even cut the Illusive man off and he was responsible for protecting her from her father her wntire adult life.
Both speak their minds and need their loyalty earned.

I must say Miranda earned most respect from me by just two points in the entire game: her loyalty mission (she cares for people) and the fact she's speaking her mind in front of TIM.
Those two situations also made me liking her. Without both, I'd say "meh" or even dislike.

Badpie wrote...

This may be the unpopular opinion here, but I think Miranda is more cut out for second in command. She's less reactionary than Ash. Miranda is always thinking, always calculating and she seems to have a very black and white notion of things. She can be counted on to make cold, logical decisions.

It's not that I don't think Ash would be great at the job. She would. She's smart, she's forceful, she doesn't take crap and she knows how to take initiative. But I feel like she fills the role because she has to, not because she's a natural at something like it, whereas Miranda was kind of groomed over the years for this exact thing.

I can hear you.
Never said Miranda is a bad XO. She's - in my eyes - not my first choice if Ash is a candidate as well. It kinda depends on the mission and also on the behavior of Ashley. Being the XO requires to keep emotions for the CO hidden as long as they're on duty. Maybe Ashley can do that, maybe she can't. If she can't, then I'll pick Miranda over her.

MisterJB wrote...

Speaking on behalf of pragmatism, sometimes sacrifices are necessary. That's just the way it is.

With
that being said, I do believe Miranda could stand to learn how to take
small risks. Shepard coming back with the crew to ensure their survival
would be a terrible decision but in a group of 12, surely there is
someone we can spare to help them.

I think Ashley can do that as well.
However, it depends how you do it. Remember Virmire? Shepard can pick the "paragon line" for the character s/he won't save. Although both know that one can't be saved in time, the character will feel less betrayed 'cause of that sacrifice. Shepard can also pick the "renegade option" which sounds far more harsh.

Sure, it depends on how you're playing your Shepard how you see that sacrifice on Virmire. Miranda will always pick the renegade line. I'm not sure if Ashley would also pick that line. She seems to be more the type for a paragon option here.

Modifié par CptData, 31 décembre 2011 - 09:24 .

[redbaron76]

@ AD Legend you are correct, but due to the fact that normandy is an alliance ship, and that Ashley is active duty officer while Shepard is supended untill anderson reactivates him. There fore since ahsley is going back to Normandy and waiting for orders from defense council, we can safely say That Ashley Williams is an actual CO Of SSV Normandy SR-2. We still have to see if Shepard is actually legaly restored to command of Normandy.

[CptData]

redbaron76 wrote...

Quick Question to all ashley fans like me. Do you think that ash and shepard will have a great opening conversation aboard normandy as they leave earth and what would you expect if they did get it.

Although I'd like to see something like that, I dunno if that's going to happen. Lets hope for a reunion for a romanced!Ashley with Shepard ...

Dr. Doctor wrote...

I get the feeling that if Shepard
romanced Ash things onboard the Normandy are going to be awkward.
There's the whole Horizon thing, and the Cerberus thing, and the fact
that the killer robot apocalypse is going on. I think its going to take a
little while for the two of them to be able to talk about what went on,
much less where their relationship is going.

Indeed.

I think (uhhh ... no ... I -know-) they need some (quiet) situations so they can speak their mind. Being on a mission is bad timing. Being on board of the Normandy and preparing the next mission is also not the best time. And I doubt Ashley will simply forget what had happened on Horizon - neither Shepard does.
So whatever is going to happen before Ash & Shepard renew their love (and we know it's in ME3), it will take some time. I simply can't see Ashley jumping right into Shepard's bunk and doing snu snu out of the blue. That's not how Ashley works. That's not how Ashley's romance works. It doesn't fit. Shepard needs to regain her trust first. And that's already a difficult mission.

redbaron76 wrote...

@ AD Legend as we seen in the trailer
that they showed at the game, it does not look like they are giving the
normandy bad back to shepard. It is under command of Ashley. SHepard only
gets reinstated in aliance by Anderson. Ans as Ash is spectre normany
just might be her ship, not that my separd would compalain, but then
ashley just might geve normandy back to shepard. she did say Welcome
back shepard in trailer. So we will have to wait and see. And it also
seems that joker is back in alliance to. Miranda is still not an
alliance and even if she did she would not be an officer.

It becomes worse in case of Kaidan. He simply outranks Shepard. I wonder how BW explains that issue ...

Since Shepard gets reinstated by Anderson s/he also gets the rank back. In case of Ashley it means s/he outranks her - but only if Shepard is also reinstated as Spectre. Will it backfire if your Shepard never got reinstated? That might play a role here. Then again we asume too much: what if the VS is no Spectre yet? Sure, Ash had that uniform in the leaked Beta. But we also know that Beta wasn't finished yet - just check all those bugs, check the fact Anderson got his uniform changed from E3-beta to that leaked Beta (combat attire -> admiral's uniform) etc.

So just in case Shepard is a Spectre but Kaidan / Ashley are not, it shouldn't be too difficult to reinstate Shepard as CO again. Outranked by Spectre status.

Modifié par CptData, 31 décembre 2011 - 09:39 .

[AgitatedLemon]

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

Shepard's also a spectre

Not necessarily...

Shepard can tell the council to shove their spectre status up their ass if he/she wants...

Honestly who the hell would do that?

[Cossack72]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

Shepard's also a spectre

Not necessarily...

Shepard can tell the council to shove their spectre status up their ass if he/she wants...

Honestly who the hell would do that?

Ice Queen Femshep, depending on playthrough

[CptData]

^ Indeed.

There are a lot of ways to have a playthrough without Spectre status reinstated. Actually, it's far easier to have a non-Spectre Shepard than a Spectre Shepard at the beginning of ME3.

Maybe there is a "failsave" option in ME3 so your Shepard gets reinstated anyways at some point, but if not, Shepard won't regain that status and will be outranked by Kaidan (Major > Commander) or Ashley (Spectre > any rank). I can't see a way how Shepard can stay CO of the Normandy without Spectre status.

[AgitatedLemon]

I can't see a way how Shepard can stay CO of the Normandy without Spectre status.

Which is exactly why Spectre status should be reinstated, even mandatory.

[Aurora313]

Happy new years to all my good friends on the BSN.

Regards,
Ashley Madeline Williams + B 'Aurora313' Williams + Cameron Roxanna Pierce.

Modifié par Aurora313, 31 décembre 2011 - 01:04 .

[CptData]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

I can't see a way how Shepard can stay CO of the Normandy without Spectre status.

Which is exactly why Spectre status should be reinstated, even mandatory.

I'm really looking forward for that solution. I do have several scenarios in my mind, lets go through:

Scenario 1
Shepard: Spectre
Ashley/Kaidan: no Spectres
Result: Shepard will become CO of the Normandy since the Spectre status outranks any military rank.

Scenario 2
Shepard: Spectre
Ashley/Kaidan: Spectres
Result: Depending on "elder rights" (right word?). Since Shepard is Spectre for a longer time than Ashley/Kaidan, they should accept his/her orders - therefore, Shepard will be CO of the Normandy.

Scenario 3
Shepard: no Spectre
Ashley/Kaidan: no Spectres
Result: If Kaidan is alive, he outranks Shepard (Major > Commander). Since Shepard is no Spectre there is no way to become CO of the Normandy unless Anderson or any other Admiral orders Kaidan to obey Shepard's command.
In case if Ashley is alive, Shepard outranks her and becomes CO.

Scenario 4
Shepard: no Spectre
Ashley/Kaidan: Spectres
Result: There's no way Shepard becomes CO without the Spectre status. Either Kaidan or Ashley accept his/her role as CO out of loyalty, or they won't. There's no authority that may order them to follow Shepard.

In the end it's much easier for Shepard to become CO with his/her Spectre status. I really wonder what solution BW will use in case Shepard is no Spectre anymore.


Too bad this is not really Ashley related

[CptData]

Aurora313 wrote...

Happy new years to all my good friends on the BSN.

Regards,
Ashley Madeline Williams + B 'Aurora313' Williams + Cameron Roxanna Pierce.

We still have 9,75 hours left on this side of the globe, Aurora

Happy new year to you

Modifié par CptData, 31 décembre 2011 - 01:16 .

[YouthCultureForever]

What does everyone make of Ashley and Shepard's lovestory thus far? Is this couple in it for the longhaul? And in the interest of fanning the flames of controversy, when it comes to survivability is a Miranda/Shepard union a better option?

Ashley's short lived love affair with the Commander was snuffed out two minutes into the reunion on Horizon. Granted, Ashley sends Shepard a heartfelt letter after the incident, but the refrain is I don't want to lose you. Loss is absolutely difficult and she has dealt with of it regarding Shepard. Of Course she didn't want to lose her Commander, her friend when the Normandy went down, she didn't want to lose the person she trusted and respected most in the galaxly to Cerberus' clutches, she certainly doesn't want to endure the loss of Shepard to another woman, but does a fear of loss translate into love? Was it ever love to begin with? Their relationship always had the potential for something great, but oppurtunity is not a lenghty visitor and after a two year hiatus is reviving the remnants of a decaying relationship even plausible? Of Course it would break my heart if it weren't, but is ME3 an easy stroll into the sunset or at most a new beginning for this couple?

Miranda and Shepard have the advantage of being on a more even keel and a happy ending seems much more like a legitimate possibility for them.

[ADLegend21]

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

Shepard's also a spectre

Not necessarily...

Shepard can tell the council to shove their spectre status up their ass if he/she wants...

I've only done that once. and it was on a ME2 only PT so technically I din't meet said council so he's not a spectre. Every other Shepard though is a Spectre so my ship my rules!

[UrusVerra]

HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!!!))))

[JeffZero]

OK, so posting warm wishes in every single character's thread is going to get old fast so I'll actually add some meat to the bones on this post. But yes, happy new year to all fellow Ashleyans.

I'm curious how many lines will be separated based on the "who's who" in ME3 concerning the Virmire Survivor, as I know full-well many of us have been. The devs claim it won't be as bad as Horizon with all its word-for-word, and that's good for me. It's a rock in a hard place for the writers and I look forward to seeing how it's handled.

[ADLegend21]

yeah I do hope Ashley has her own set of lines seperate from Kaidan so they aren't the same person as they both were on Horizon. that said I would like them to have some similarities so they they both act like they've been romanced by Shepard that was with them in ME1.

[saMoorai]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

Shepard's also a spectre

Not necessarily...

Shepard can tell the council to shove their spectre status up their ass if he/she wants...

Honestly who the hell would do that?

I would. I'd rather just work for the Alliance, an organization that trusts and listens to me. 

[ADLegend21]

redbaron76 wrote...

@ AD Legend you are correct, but due to the fact that normandy is an alliance ship, and that Ashley is active duty officer while Shepard is supended untill anderson reactivates him. There fore since ahsley is going back to Normandy and waiting for orders from defense council, we can safely say That Ashley Williams is an actual CO Of SSV Normandy SR-2. We still have to see if Shepard is actually legaly restored to command of Normandy.

Normandy was an alliance ship, but it's under spectre authority which means it's a council ship and council authority overrules the alliance which means the spectre's are in charge and my spectre's want Miranda as the XO end of story.

[AgitatedLemon]

ADLegend21 wrote...

redbaron76 wrote...

@ AD Legend you are correct, but due to the fact that normandy is an alliance ship, and that Ashley is active duty officer while Shepard is supended untill anderson reactivates him. There fore since ahsley is going back to Normandy and waiting for orders from defense council, we can safely say That Ashley Williams is an actual CO Of SSV Normandy SR-2. We still have to see if Shepard is actually legaly restored to command of Normandy.

Normandy was an alliance ship, but it's under spectre authority which means it's a council ship and council authority overrules the alliance which means the spectre's are in charge and my spectre's want Miranda as the XO end of story.

Is it still under Spectre authority since it was rebuilt by Cerberus?

[ADLegend21]

saMOOrai182 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

Shepard's also a spectre

Not necessarily...

Shepard can tell the council to shove their spectre status up their ass if he/she wants...

Honestly who the hell would do that?

I would. I'd rather just work for the Alliance, an organization that trusts and listens to me. 

the same organization that abandoned you, didn't bother searching for your corpse, disavowed you and all teh work you did in your chase for Saren, the used you as a recruitment add before replacing your actual face with a compsoit image (sheploo) even if you were female and then when you actually do put a dent in the reapers plans want to lock you up? That same organization? even when you come back the VS is the new face of the Alliance so Ashley is now in your spot while you've just been swept aside and labeled mentally unstable to the public. I guess Ashley must like her partners to be crazy then

[ADLegend21]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

redbaron76 wrote...

@ AD Legend you are correct, but due to the fact that normandy is an alliance ship, and that Ashley is active duty officer while Shepard is supended untill anderson reactivates him. There fore since ahsley is going back to Normandy and waiting for orders from defense council, we can safely say That Ashley Williams is an actual CO Of SSV Normandy SR-2. We still have to see if Shepard is actually legaly restored to command of Normandy.

Normandy was an alliance ship, but it's under spectre authority which means it's a council ship and council authority overrules the alliance which means the spectre's are in charge and my spectre's want Miranda as the XO end of story.

Is it still under Spectre authority since it was rebuilt by Cerberus?

when you take back your status yeah. even though people still call it a cerberus ship.

[AgitatedLemon]

ADLegend21 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

redbaron76 wrote...

@ AD Legend you are correct, but due to the fact that normandy is an alliance ship, and that Ashley is active duty officer while Shepard is supended untill anderson reactivates him. There fore since ahsley is going back to Normandy and waiting for orders from defense council, we can safely say That Ashley Williams is an actual CO Of SSV Normandy SR-2. We still have to see if Shepard is actually legaly restored to command of Normandy.

Normandy was an alliance ship, but it's under spectre authority which means it's a council ship and council authority overrules the alliance which means the spectre's are in charge and my spectre's want Miranda as the XO end of story.

Is it still under Spectre authority since it was rebuilt by Cerberus?

when you take back your status yeah. even though people still call it a cerberus ship.

Even though it has the Cerberus emblem emblazoned on it? And still is equipped with EDI?

[Mr. Brainheart]

YouthCultureForever wrote...

What does everyone make of Ashley and Shepard's lovestory thus far? Is this couple in it for the longhaul? And in the interest of fanning the flames of controversy, when it comes to survivability is a Miranda/Shepard union a better option?

Interesting question, but in the end I think it comes down to one thing: Shepard. Some Shepards just fit with Ash, they're different but it would seem like they really are in a long term relationship, albeit a rocky one. Another regards it maybe as less long term and more an act in a desperate moment that didn't stand fo a long term commitment perse. Other Shepards...I haven't fleshed out enough. Same goes for Miranda I guess. I think we'll get our happy ending in ME3 though, if we want it enough.

@Jeff; I basically think the same as AD on this.


Happy new year! (in 1hour and 40 min for me)

[ADLegend21]

AgitatedLemon wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

AgitatedLemon wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

redbaron76 wrote...

@ AD Legend you are correct, but due to the fact that normandy is an alliance ship, and that Ashley is active duty officer while Shepard is supended untill anderson reactivates him. There fore since ahsley is going back to Normandy and waiting for orders from defense council, we can safely say That Ashley Williams is an actual CO Of SSV Normandy SR-2. We still have to see if Shepard is actually legaly restored to command of Normandy.

Normandy was an alliance ship, but it's under spectre authority which means it's a council ship and council authority overrules the alliance which means the spectre's are in charge and my spectre's want Miranda as the XO end of story.

Is it still under Spectre authority since it was rebuilt by Cerberus?

when you take back your status yeah. even though people still call it a cerberus ship.

Even though it has the Cerberus emblem emblazoned on it? And still is equipped with EDI?

yeah, the first Normandy had the alliance all over it but it was still a Spectre ship as evidence by the admiral you talk to on your first visit tot eh citadel after being a spectre. he says you've been handed over to the council and were supposed to be transfered to his fleet but you weren't. You also can't tak eorders form him, even though Ashley or Kaidan wil salute when you bring them to that coversation.

[Rdubs]

Hey friends,
As you all know I'm a huge Shep/Ash fan and recently started trying to write some fan fiction.  Only problem was, it's pretty clear from the leak that Shepard and Ashley don't have any contact between ME2/Arrival and ME3, so in order to have a romance subplot I set it up to be a romance with Miranda.  Kill me, I know, but it's just something to add some mushy-ness.  Anyway here it is if you want to read it, just two chapters in.  I love the technology aspects of the ME universe so delve into that quite a bit.
http://www.fanfictio...ffect_Aftermath