Modifié par Ashley_SR2, 17 janvier 2012 - 02:44 .
android654 wrote...
CptData wrote...
android654 wrote...
Clone 071 wrote...
Edit: Yeah, that's true. Most who would see someone like Jack in reality would probably ignore her
If you've got bad taste in women, then yeah.
I can't see Ashley getting into an actual fight over Shepard. It doesn't look like its in her character.
She kinda did with Liara already - at least if you flirted with both and had to decide later in ME1.
A few snarky comments, but not an all out fist fight, which is what I meant.
android654 wrote...
Clone 071 wrote...
Edit: Yeah, that's true. Most who would see someone like Jack in reality would probably ignore her
If you've got bad taste in women, then yeah.
Sorry, I meant no offense.
Clone 071 wrote...
android654 wrote...
Clone 071 wrote...
Edit: Yeah, that's true. Most who would see someone like Jack in reality would probably ignore her
If you've got bad taste in women, then yeah.
android654 wrote...
CptData wrote...
android654 wrote...
Clone 071 wrote...
Edit: Yeah, that's true. Most who would see someone like Jack in reality would probably ignore her
If you've got bad taste in women, then yeah.
I can't see Ashley getting into an actual fight over Shepard. It doesn't look like its in her character.
She kinda did with Liara already - at least if you flirted with both and had to decide later in ME1.
A few snarky comments, but not an all out fist fight, which is what I meant.
Modifié par CptData, 17 janvier 2012 - 11:27 .
Hot...something hot I think and nothing too fancy, just a quite ordenary pizza, maybe indeed pepperoni.Ashley_SR2 wrote...
What would Ashley eat on her pizza?
I would like to guess a typical pepperoni and cheese but with some hot peppers and maybe some varren bacon for something out-of-this-world.
Varren bacon? It doesn't sound very yummy and I bet it would not taste like chicken!
I'm hoping for something more along the lines of ME1, I liked how they felt more sensual. The Miranda scene felt like it focussed to much on simply being sexual for my tastes. That and it felt slightly awkward to me.The Prince Zeel wrote...
Does anyone think we are going to get the same Miranda-esque sex scene with Ashley instead in ME3?
If so. No Mass.
Oh, Lord, no. I certainly hope not. ME2 romances just weren't that great, and Miranda's made me feel... dirty. *shudders*The Prince Zeel wrote...
Does anyone think we are going to get the same Miranda-esque sex scene with Ashley instead in ME3?
If so. No Mass.
Indeed, yes! She still needs to prove to Shepard that she's in prime condition.Mr. Brainheart wrote...
I'd like to see something that's emotional and unique to Ash..and if they won't do that..."Let's make it forty" perhaps?
Mr. Brainheart wrote...
I don't see Ashley as the kind of person that would fight with someone she doesn't like, just because she doesn't like him/her either. But she can make nasty comments, for instance about Liara, that wasn't snarky anymore, but down right mean, atleast to me.
PMC65 wrote...
Han Shot First wrote...
Ashley was hostile to Liara from the moment she stepped aboard the Normandy in ME1. Of course going into ME3 it may be that Ashley also has 'issues' with what went on in Redemption, but otherwise Ashley is confrontational with Liara for no other reason than she views her as a romantic rival. At least with MaleShep it is obvious that Ashley is digging him from the get go, and once Liara is aboard the Normandy it is also obvious that Ashley's hostility towards Liara is mostly (or entirely) motivated by jealousy.
Ashley admits to it if you pick her over Liara ... That she was really mad at Shepard and not Liara.
Once Ashley sees Liara, an asari, she is put on edge. But I could see where it would be a little intimidating to have a species known for being physically open and seductive suddenly on-board. The reputation of this species is not exaclty that of modesty & restraint ... so if they had made Ashley greet her with open arms that would have seemed really out of character.
If you liked someone and suddenly there appeared what is potentially a rival for the affection of someone you really liked how would you react? I would like to think that it wouldn't bother me and that I'd be polite ... but who knows. Ashley acts like some women & men would in that situation ... why do I hear Carrie Underwood's "Before He Cheats".
Even if Shepard tells Liara that Ashley is special that doesn't stop her from asking how he feels about her as well. So Ash is a little justified in her concerns about Liara. Ashley, in my opinion, understands Liara before anyone else does. Female to female the match starts from the moment that they meet. It made me love both characters that much more!
Emotions aren't always pretty or nice, unfortunately.
Xilizhra wrote...
That would be fine and dandy (well, kind of) if Shepard was always male, but it occurs if Shepard is female as well. Unless of course Ashley is actually bisexual.
PMC65 wrote...
Xilizhra wrote...
That would be fine and dandy (well, kind of) if Shepard was always male, but it occurs if Shepard is female as well. Unless of course Ashley is actually bisexual.
We could only hope that Ashley was bisexual ...
Olive Oomph wrote...
PMC65 wrote...
Xilizhra wrote...
That would be fine and dandy (well, kind of) if Shepard was always male, but it occurs if Shepard is female as well. Unless of course Ashley is actually bisexual.
We could only hope that Ashley was bisexual ...
I just posted a reply to your post in the Liara thread.
And I always thought Ashley's b*tchiness towards the Asari as a race, an all-female-race, might come from ... unresolved issues. As you said...we can only hope!
Xilizhra wrote...
That would be fine and dandy (well, kind of) if Shepard was always male, but it occurs if Shepard is female as well. Unless of course Ashley is actually bisexual.
Mr. Brainheart wrote...
You bring up some fair points PMC, although I don't think all of her anger/dissapointment was indirectly aimed at Shepard. It's likely that some of it was, after all he or she let's Liara, daugther of a probable enemy onboard without a doubt then brainmelts with her, like it's no big deal. With male Shepard it goes a little further with the romance ofcourse.
But would she really propose asking Liara about her sex life if she wanted to display her disapproval of Shepard? I think Ashley would rather try to confront Shepard directly and with tact. Shepard initially trusting someone she initially distrusts causes her distrust to amplify, but it doesn't create the distrust, in my opinion.
(So I agree that she's probably mean because of Shepard, but I think she would still be cold and distant to Liara without Shepard's presence. But despite this all I realise she still respects Liara, which clearly shows when she expresses her concerns about Liara after her mothers death.)
I guess she was taught to dislike aliens from an early age and that scar would be a barrier between her and Liara regardless of Shepard. The way the issue can be resolved is if Ashley's dislike of Aliens has lessened and if Shepard didn't try to romance both of them and then chose Liara in the end.
In the end though, a big part of this issue is that they misunderstand each other. In ME3 it's likely that Ashley has had more experience with Aliens and became more tolerant of them. Liara has changed from the socially awkward girl she was into someone less awkward and stumbly in conversations. This would create a new oppertunity for both of them to get along. I know my Shepards will try to help them get along, they are two of my fav characters and I'd love to see them go from very distant in ME1 to friends in ME3.
Happened to me once. I had to comfort a guy I basically didn't like. We never became friends, not even after that event, but at least the tension between both of us got eased a bit.PMC65 wrote...
I've always given credit to Ashley for telling Shepard to check in on Liara after Benezia's death, but that in no way means that she softened on Liara. During loss people, decent people, can temporarily "bury the hachet" for that moment. Ashley is a decent person to me and this moment showed it. Even though she does not like Liara she can empathize with her and show kindness.
Here I believe Ashley felt like most human women in that time. The Alliance wasn't part of the Citadel races for more than a couple of decades. A lot of stuff changed. And the Asari, a race full of beautiful women and no one knows the effects of aging, getting fat etc, being beautiful for a thousand years?Her bringing up the sexual "looseness" of the asari is just one more dig by Ashley that was a truly honest moment to me ... She was trying to discredit her competition in a way. Not a nice moment but an honest moment. Ashley is not an angel to me but closer to a real woman. Faults and all ... and I like that.
Concur.In my view Liara was never "innocent" and her awkwardness was just around Shepard. In all other conversations with other characters she does not hesitate or stumble. Liara can also lie when needed (see her response on Noveria when she says that she does not know the Matriarch) and so Ashley is correct when she says that Liara isn't always honest. Ashley and Liara see each other very clearly and that makes the match more interesting.
Respect? Definitely. Friends? Maybe. It kinda depends on the story. There is a chance they might become friends. They won't ever become close friends; Ashley and Tali are far closer and I can see Ashley becoming a friend of Miranda over the time.Do I see the two as becoming friends? No. They are two completely different individuals with no common ground. Unless you count Shepard, but that is part of their problem. But I can see them respecting each other after that dust settles. It will be interesting to see how Bioware plays this out in the male Shepard world.
Headcanon ftw, buddyAs to FShep ... I've just focused on the fact that Ashley does not trust other species' and sees the asaris as something even worse ... space seducers. Think a Monica Bellucci in blue.
This works in my Mass Effect canon but it is not meant to apply to yours. We all color the canvas as we see fit or just shoot things and forget the rest.
I do agree, but it was more important to me because it clearly showed me she respected Asari just like she would respect humans, atleast at a basic level. Earlier in the game this was kind of ambiguous. But you're also right that it would be an assumption to say she softened on her.PMC65 wrote...
I've always given credit to Ashley for telling Shepard to check in on Liara after Benezia's death, but that in no way means that she softened on Liara. During loss people, decent people, can temporarily "bury the hachet" for that moment. Ashley is a decent person to me and this moment showed it. Even though she does not like Liara she can empathize with her and show kindness.
My interpretation was a little different, I felt that that moment showed her upbringing more than her own independed character, at this stage Liara has not done anything that upsetting to Ashley to warrant that response. Atleast I wonder if she would be talk quite like that about a fellow human, if they were in the same situation. That's a very multi-interpretable thing though. I can see where you ae coming from.Her bringing up the sexual "looseness" of the asari is just one more dig by Ashley that was a truly honest moment to me ... She was trying to discredit her competition in a way. Not a nice moment but an honest moment. Ashley is not an angel to me but closer to a real woman. Faults and all ... and I like that.
I do like your take on Ashley and Liara seeing each other more clearly than Shepard does, or I do. But the way she introduced herself to the others doesn't seem very tactful to me, although her being more tactful is arguably not a realistic expectation.In my view Liara was never "innocent" and her awkwardness was just around Shepard. In all other conversations with other characters she does not hesitate or stumble. Liara can also lie when needed (see her response on Noveria when she says that she does not know the Matriarch) and so Ashley is correct when she says that Liara isn't always honest. Ashley and Liara see each other very clearly and that makes the match more interesting.
Do I see the two as becoming friends? No. They are two completely different individuals with no common ground. Unless you count Shepard, but that is part of their problem. But I can see them respecting each other after that dust settles. It will be interesting to see how Bioware plays this out in the male Shepard world.
As to FShep ... I've just focused on the fact that Ashley does not trust other species' and sees the asaris as something even worse ... space seducers. Think a Monica Bellucci in blue.
This works in my Mass Effect canon but it is not meant to apply to yours. We all color the canvas as we see fit or just shoot things and forget the rest.
That quote only sounds vaguely familiar, I never took much notice of it either. Also, interesting challenge, buut school stuff to do as well..*ponder, ponder*. I guess I'll have to let school come first occasionally.Martin the Warrior wrote...
Shepard was telling her that she's a valuable part of the crew and all that, and Ash was like "I also play a mean game of pool." No matter how many times I've seen that conversation I've never noticed that line, and this time around, it made me lol. So that gave me an idea for a little challenge for our dialogue writers: a dialogue of Ashley and Shepard (male or female) playing pool.
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