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That is what makes ash shepard romanc ework so well. They are a perfect couple. Shepley 4 ever

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ADLegend21 wrote...

There's a fair share of cheesiness in the romance on both sides lol.


Guess that's why we love them so much *g*

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@ CPTData

Did you make this pic. Very nice.

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No. I'm just use google to find the pictures for the forums. I'm not that much of an artist ^^

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Still works.

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Ashley looks like she tastes good.

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D3MON-SOVER3IGN wrote...

Ashley looks like she tastes good.


What flavor is she:P Ok I will take my gutter mind over ------> to Kaidan thread=]

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I bet she is spicy. :P

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texanhusker wrote...

I bet she is spicy. :P


yet, with a hint of sweetness Image IPB

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This is no chat, guys. ^^
Ash tastes like strawberry and cream with a hint of chili.

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ADLegend21 wrote...

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

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ADLegend21 wrote...

I hate to break it but Miranda's a sentinel. No way in hell she loses to Ashley.


Heavily depends on the way they're fighting. Biotics are over- and underpowered at the same time. Miranda's direct fighting skills are reduced to Pistol- and SMG-usage - Ashley can use every weapon avaiable, including heavy weapons and sniper rifles.

First of all, keep in mind biotics got gimped - they can't be used against any kind of defense anymore. Don't have the table here, but I know several biotic attacks require shields lowered. As long as Ashley can keep her shield charged, Miranda relies only on her normal firepower.

SHORT RANGE (<50m)
Miranda may win. SMGs deplete shields quickly and once they're gone, Ashley is minced meat.

MEDIUM RANGE (<150m)
Almost even fight. Ashley might win this one since range of Miranda's SMG is limited and won't take down Ashley's shields fast enough. That gives her enough time to aim and take down Miranda with either her assault or the sniper rifle.

LONG RANGE (>150m)
Hands down - Miranda will be dead. There's no way she can deplete Ashley's shields - and Ash is a crackshot. Even if Miranda can reduce that range by several dozen meters, she'd be dead in the end.


As I said, biotics are heavily overrated sometimes since they're kinda situational. Just my -very- short analysis. In any of my playthroughs I rather rely on firepower than tech skills and biotics. They come in handy, sure, but they don't decide the battle that often I'm used from ME1.
In ME1 biotics were necessary ... that's why I always had either Wrex, Kaidan or Liara in most fights.

And that's the fair analysis - without making Miri "worse than she is" or raising Ashley to "incredible awesomeness". Just stats & knowledge and how things work in ME2 / ME3. Also I'd like to add to the record Miranda died quite frequently in combat: think not even Tali got downed that often, and she has the nasty tendency to go right into the middle of the fight like Grunt. Lets ignore ME2's poor squadmate AI ... Miranda's tactic skills are more theoretical than practical - which also might turn the favor towards Ashley.



I think Data has hit the nail on the head here. It's definitely a situational thing. I mean, just b/c someone has biotics doesn't make it an insta-win against someone who doesn't. And Ashley, being the veteran soldier that she is, is smart enough to know not to take her on up-close, but to take her out from her effective range. 

You're both forgetting that sentienls are biotic/tech class. Miranda picked up an Asari (natural biotic) and hurled her nealry a hundred feet, her tech attackscan be used to shut down every gun in ashley's aresenal and strip away her armor to get better shots making her allthe more lethal as she's a jill of all trades. ashley relies on her weapons and that is the downfall of the soldier class. All guns nothing else.


That doesn't help her at all if she's taken by surprise...

see Wrex in ME1. Taken by surprise, one shot, dead. (if you choose that route)

Now, Ashley knowing that Miranda is a biotic and close range combatant isn't going to go pick a fight she knows she can't win. She's going to set up a sniper trap for her and take her by surprise... snipers (the good ones) aren't seen or heard until they fire their first shot. And Ashley only needs one shot. 

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Silverpearl1977 wrote...

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Ok I just made my 1st mshep and I want to romance Ashley. I do want spacer background for sure. I just notice it opens up a whole different dialouge about family. The question is do some of you paragon her or renegade her? What is that like on each one? I know if you Renegade Kaidan you can make him not like aliens as much. Paragon he pretty much stays the same. See I lean heavy towards paragon. So any advice on the Ashley romance seeing how I know nothing about it :lol:


Uhhmm ... lets say, Ashley is a pragmatist. That's a good thing since pragmatists are pretty much balanced between "paragon" and "renegade". I enjoy paragonized Ashley more than renegadized Ash, therefore I'd go for the paragon lines. Shepard is pulling some really cheesy stuff. :lol:

I'll pick paragon always for Ash. Fits better to her ...


Shepard pulls some cheesy lines with paragon? If so I'm all for cheesy:D Ok so paragon so far seems to be the verdict. Which is good seeing how renegade just really isn't me. Now I have to go thru Horizion with Ashley ugh! Well at least I know and I'm prepared this time:blush: Can't wait to experiences both the VS arcs!!


On the other hand, there is some very flirty and teasy (thats so not a word lol) lines when you go renegade. Honestly, I think I mix of each is best. 

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Just got copy of new game informer and the stuff that I read I like. That is very good, makes me very happy, and not concerned about spoilers to much.

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And sorry for second posting. Ashley and shepard need more time alone and time to kill plenty of reapers.

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Silverpearl1977 wrote...

D3MON-SOVER3IGN wrote...

Ashley looks like she tastes good.


What flavor is she:P Ok I will take my gutter mind over ------> to Kaidan thread=]


And what a lovely gutter it is! Image IPB

Kaidan thread has some really sexy pictures making me wish that some of those artists loved Ash so that they would spoil this crowd with some yummy pictures.

Why, oh, why can't IsaacShep do an Ashley? He is really talented.

 

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I think that IsaacSHep does not like ashley, that is why he writes not ashley fanfics or dialogues.

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xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

CptData wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

I hate to break it but Miranda's a sentinel. No way in hell she loses to Ashley.


Heavily depends on the way they're fighting. Biotics are over- and underpowered at the same time. Miranda's direct fighting skills are reduced to Pistol- and SMG-usage - Ashley can use every weapon avaiable, including heavy weapons and sniper rifles.

First of all, keep in mind biotics got gimped - they can't be used against any kind of defense anymore. Don't have the table here, but I know several biotic attacks require shields lowered. As long as Ashley can keep her shield charged, Miranda relies only on her normal firepower.

SHORT RANGE (<50m)
Miranda may win. SMGs deplete shields quickly and once they're gone, Ashley is minced meat.

MEDIUM RANGE (<150m)
Almost even fight. Ashley might win this one since range of Miranda's SMG is limited and won't take down Ashley's shields fast enough. That gives her enough time to aim and take down Miranda with either her assault or the sniper rifle.

LONG RANGE (>150m)
Hands down - Miranda will be dead. There's no way she can deplete Ashley's shields - and Ash is a crackshot. Even if Miranda can reduce that range by several dozen meters, she'd be dead in the end.


As I said, biotics are heavily overrated sometimes since they're kinda situational. Just my -very- short analysis. In any of my playthroughs I rather rely on firepower than tech skills and biotics. They come in handy, sure, but they don't decide the battle that often I'm used from ME1.
In ME1 biotics were necessary ... that's why I always had either Wrex, Kaidan or Liara in most fights.

And that's the fair analysis - without making Miri "worse than she is" or raising Ashley to "incredible awesomeness". Just stats & knowledge and how things work in ME2 / ME3. Also I'd like to add to the record Miranda died quite frequently in combat: think not even Tali got downed that often, and she has the nasty tendency to go right into the middle of the fight like Grunt. Lets ignore ME2's poor squadmate AI ... Miranda's tactic skills are more theoretical than practical - which also might turn the favor towards Ashley.



I think Data has hit the nail on the head here. It's definitely a situational thing. I mean, just b/c someone has biotics doesn't make it an insta-win against someone who doesn't. And Ashley, being the veteran soldier that she is, is smart enough to know not to take her on up-close, but to take her out from her effective range. 

You're both forgetting that sentienls are biotic/tech class. Miranda picked up an Asari (natural biotic) and hurled her nealry a hundred feet, her tech attackscan be used to shut down every gun in ashley's aresenal and strip away her armor to get better shots making her allthe more lethal as she's a jill of all trades. ashley relies on her weapons and that is the downfall of the soldier class. All guns nothing else.


That doesn't help her at all if she's taken by surprise...

see Wrex in ME1. Taken by surprise, one shot, dead. (if you choose that route)

Now, Ashley knowing that Miranda is a biotic and close range combatant isn't going to go pick a fight she knows she can't win. She's going to set up a sniper trap for her and take her by surprise... snipers (the good ones) aren't seen or heard until they fire their first shot. And Ashley only needs one shot. 

Miranda doesn't get surprised Niether does, you'd have to get up 5 days in advanced to even havea shot. Also Wrex was knocked DOWN by a Shot, Shepard And ashley put several rounds into him when they get their respctive kills. Miranda's older than Ashley (a very sexy 35) so she has more experience and is at a Spectre skill level when you meet her. More experience, wider skill set, and a more strategic mind would give Miri the Edge.Image IPB

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redbaron76 wrote...

I think that IsaacSHep does not like ashley, that is why he writes not ashley fanfics or dialogues.


It's a shame because he puts out some beautiful Kaidan artwork. I know that he is not a fan of Liara Image IPB but I've never seen him comment on Ashley. Oh, well. He is really talented.

I'd love a femshep with Ashley by him. Maybe them on the battlefield together.

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ADLegend21 wrote...

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

CptData wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

I hate to break it but Miranda's a sentinel. No way in hell she loses to Ashley.


Heavily depends on the way they're fighting. Biotics are over- and underpowered at the same time. Miranda's direct fighting skills are reduced to Pistol- and SMG-usage - Ashley can use every weapon avaiable, including heavy weapons and sniper rifles.

First of all, keep in mind biotics got gimped - they can't be used against any kind of defense anymore. Don't have the table here, but I know several biotic attacks require shields lowered. As long as Ashley can keep her shield charged, Miranda relies only on her normal firepower.

SHORT RANGE (<50m)
Miranda may win. SMGs deplete shields quickly and once they're gone, Ashley is minced meat.

MEDIUM RANGE (<150m)
Almost even fight. Ashley might win this one since range of Miranda's SMG is limited and won't take down Ashley's shields fast enough. That gives her enough time to aim and take down Miranda with either her assault or the sniper rifle.

LONG RANGE (>150m)
Hands down - Miranda will be dead. There's no way she can deplete Ashley's shields - and Ash is a crackshot. Even if Miranda can reduce that range by several dozen meters, she'd be dead in the end.


As I said, biotics are heavily overrated sometimes since they're kinda situational. Just my -very- short analysis. In any of my playthroughs I rather rely on firepower than tech skills and biotics. They come in handy, sure, but they don't decide the battle that often I'm used from ME1.
In ME1 biotics were necessary ... that's why I always had either Wrex, Kaidan or Liara in most fights.

And that's the fair analysis - without making Miri "worse than she is" or raising Ashley to "incredible awesomeness". Just stats & knowledge and how things work in ME2 / ME3. Also I'd like to add to the record Miranda died quite frequently in combat: think not even Tali got downed that often, and she has the nasty tendency to go right into the middle of the fight like Grunt. Lets ignore ME2's poor squadmate AI ... Miranda's tactic skills are more theoretical than practical - which also might turn the favor towards Ashley.



I think Data has hit the nail on the head here. It's definitely a situational thing. I mean, just b/c someone has biotics doesn't make it an insta-win against someone who doesn't. And Ashley, being the veteran soldier that she is, is smart enough to know not to take her on up-close, but to take her out from her effective range. 

You're both forgetting that sentienls are biotic/tech class. Miranda picked up an Asari (natural biotic) and hurled her nealry a hundred feet, her tech attackscan be used to shut down every gun in ashley's aresenal and strip away her armor to get better shots making her allthe more lethal as she's a jill of all trades. ashley relies on her weapons and that is the downfall of the soldier class. All guns nothing else.


That doesn't help her at all if she's taken by surprise...

see Wrex in ME1. Taken by surprise, one shot, dead. (if you choose that route)

Now, Ashley knowing that Miranda is a biotic and close range combatant isn't going to go pick a fight she knows she can't win. She's going to set up a sniper trap for her and take her by surprise... snipers (the good ones) aren't seen or heard until they fire their first shot. And Ashley only needs one shot. 

Miranda doesn't get surprised Niether does, you'd have to get up 5 days in advanced to even havea shot. Also Wrex was knocked DOWN by a Shot, Shepard And ashley put several rounds into him when they get their respctive kills. Miranda's older than Ashley (a very sexy 35) so she has more experience and is at a Spectre skill level when you meet her. More experience, wider skill set, and a more strategic mind would give Miri the Edge.Image IPB


Spectre skill level? LOL NO.

Soldier experience > behind the desk experience (or quarterback and armchair quarterback)

Wrex > Miranda . And Ashley took him off guard with a few words of planning.

You're exaggerating b/c she's your favorite. ;)

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You msut not have been paying attention to her dialogues, her father had her doing military training and she ran away as a teen. She's pretty much a Spartan II from the Halo series Ashley's 26-29 and joined the alliance at 18. Miranda's trained longer, has a better build, wider skill set, higher regeneraive skill so it'll be hard for Ashley to defeat her in combat. Hopefully I will never have to find out because then my Shepard's are going into the fetal position if their XO for life has to fight either VS.

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Military training and being in the action all the time are two entirely different things.

Her build looks no better than Ashley's, but I give you the part where she has been grown to be perfect.

lol @ regeneration... she's not wolverine. Shoot her in any vital area and she's just as dead as everyone else.

Not to mention she's extremely full of herself and overestimates her abilities. See SM with the biotic bubble or any part on the SM actually (pick me! pick me! *eye roll*)

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Miranda's an absolutely awful character.



I'm sorry but it had to be said. I could go on a enormous rant but that's offtopic. 

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jsut as dead? You know that bullet to the gut that takes out unloayal or unfit fire team leaders? (Grunt, Samara, Zaeed, Thane, Kasumi, Unloyal Garrus and Jacob, etc) She survives even if she's not loyal to the cause! She survives a lethal blow for everyone else. Even in her skin tight suit.

Also you really DIDN'T pay attention to her as she herself has confidence issues that she confides with Shepard. Same as Ashley. They're confident but neither are cocky.

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That's plot armor, no if's and's or but's about it (and game mechanics unloyal/loyal). I guarantee she wouldn't survive a shot to the head, heart, vital artery.

And if you want to get really technical about it... people survive shots to the gut all the time.

Yet, she always brags about her skills. "I can do it too!  theoretically any biotic could do it." Nevermind the fact that we have a justicar and the universe's most powerful human biotic here... no, pick me for the job cause I'm that awesome.

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xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

Not to mention she's extremely full of herself and overestimates her abilities. See SM with the biotic bubble or any part on the SM actually (pick me! pick me! *eye roll*)

Haha, true. In theory, any biotic can do it... NOT. The hell you talking about, Miranda? Only a true biotic aka adept can manage a field like that for so long without dropping it.
Not bashing on Miri or anything though. I do admit she's very useful in the field of battle.