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[Sylvianus]

The question is not IF they are gay. The statement is that it is something that is taught against. I know you disagree with the idea but it is still a major teaching throughout ALL the major monotheistic religions. Many Christian, Jewish, and Muslim gamers have attached themselves to Ashley because they feel she represents them. So making her bi would be like a slap in the face.

Oh thanks, you understood. You can think about it without to be against Ashley turning bi. Bioware could think about that, because they could want the best representation of religious people, that is the only thing I thought. I could be wrong, but again it is just speculation. No need to be upset.

We don't know what Ashley is.

Ashley is hispanic, and her lines about religion are very close to those of real life. ( christians, jews ). Hispanics are christians. Bioware didn't think at all about another religion to me, that's obvious. Otherwise they would  say more and would be more original, something like Thane for example. They totally wanted Ashley believed as a representation for those who are conservative. I don't have any doubt on that, and that's why some folks also hate ashley.

Also before you making accusations nick, you *forget* that I said I wasn't trying to start something, just *informing* that homosexuals can be religious but if you want to try and demonizing me for spreading information go right ahead, take all the time you need, I'll wait. 

Nobody said here that homosexuals can't be religious, do not worry.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 10 février 2012 - 11:24 .

[PMC65]

Is it possible for this thread to follow Tali's thread example ... We drop the topic of her sexuality until ME3 is released?

If she is unlocked to love both Shepards then we can discuss why in each players "world" they have RP'ed her as (put sexual preference here).

Until then it just seems that the debate gets derailed on religion ... that never ends well.

Just a suggestion ... peace out.

[CptData]

Sylvianus: not correct. Ash has Hispanic traits, but she's more "mixed" than "pure". Think her original writer stated it once.

Think she's 1/2 or 1/4 Hispanic, the rest is Caucasian. Someone even said there is a hint of African origin in her, but that doesn't work with her nose: her nose is quite petite and narrow while noses of an African is wider and bigger overall.

I think Ashley's religion is Christian, most likely Protestant. She could also be Jewish. Dunno if Catholics are less conservative in the 22nd century, but if they are, Ash wouldn't admit she's a "hellcat on and off the battlefield". She's far too proud and confident of her own sexuality - so "Catholic" doesn't work for me.

[Sylvianus]

CptData wrote...

Just a word or two regarding that topic (again):

I think it was you Sylvianus who said, Ashley represents a character religious people can identify with. I say, that's not a correct - better - it's not a complete statement.

Ashley represents more than just religious people. She represents several groups but NOT extreme positions. Looks like this:

Represented by Ashley:
- med religious people
- slightly religious people
- agnostics
- monotheists AND polytheists
- religious atheists (Buddhists - Buddha isn't considered as god).

She does not represent:
- strong religious people
- non-religious atheists

In a way she does represent me - and she doesn't. I'm an atheist and not an Buddhist - despite I'm leaning towards that religion. I don't believe in God but also don't feel offended by those who do. As long as everyone keeps his/her belief private and doesn't start to baptize or something everything is okay for me (which means only fundamentalists are a real issue to me).
So Ashley's view on the world & religions is almost identically to my own view except I'm an atheist while she's a monotheist (Christian, Jew, Muslim, whatever you want).

Just a theory: I really wonder why some people feel offended by her religiosity. Think they're either strong believers (they hate Ashley for being a weak fellow of her religion) and extreme atheists.

Actually that's my thoughts, I never thought otherwise. But still, it could be considered as a better representation of those people for Bioware if they stick close to the common  example about religious people, yes she is more than that, the better word is conservative to sum up for me.  I said, it would be just one reason why they could decide to keep her straight, not the only one.

Let's take for example the reactions on the bsn. Some people and particularly those who don't like Ashley, hate religions were surprised, and found that incredible that Ashley could turn bi, ( let's not talk about if they were wrong or right, that isn't the subject and to each its opinion ) because precisely of her religiosity. When they heard that, they were like : Ashley bi ? But she believes in  god " Immediately, always the first reaction.

There is a real perception about Ashley, on the matter. And in my opinion, Bioware intended to do that in M1,  give a particular profil, the conservative marine, religious ( close to the american soldier lke some say to mock her ) ad they could decide to continue the same way.

Now, yes there are some people who wants to see her BI, But they could disagree on this issue.

[V-rex]

New page:


We seriously need new screenshots and fanart.

[Sylvianus]

PMC65 wrote...
 

Just a suggestion ... peace out.

Where do you see people angry ? Actually,  almost everyone is calm, we are just discussing. I just said at the beginning, I feel that Bioware will keep her straight for some reasons ( that doesn't mean I am right, just speculation ) and we felt in a debate lol.

[Sylvianus]

CptData wrote...

Sylvianus: not correct. Ash has Hispanic traits, but she's more "mixed" than "pure". Think her original writer stated it once.

Think she's 1/2 or 1/4 Hispanic, the rest is Caucasian. Someone even said there is a hint of African origin in her, but that doesn't work with her nose: her nose is quite petite and narrow while noses of an African is wider and bigger overall.

I think Ashley's religion is Christian, most likely Protestant. She could also be Jewish. Dunno if Catholics are less conservative in the 22nd century, but if they are, Ash wouldn't admit she's a "hellcat on and off the battlefield". She's far too proud and confident of her own sexuality - so "Catholic" doesn't work for me.

Well, I laughed about that to be honest. 
When the dev said she was a bit hispanic, I wasn't surprised lol. They thought about an hispanic guy for ashley, that's obvious for me. But Mass effect is in the future, they needed something different, so they mixed many things.

Otherwise I agree. most likely christian.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 10 février 2012 - 09:33 .

[CptData]

Sylvianus wrote...

Actually that's my thoughts, I never thought otherwise. But still, it could be considered as a better representation of those people for Bioware if they stick close to the common  example about religious people, yes she is more than that, the better word is conservative to sum up for me.  I said, it would be just one reason why they could decide to keep her straight, not the only one.

And still she's not conservative enough. She might be conservative in her time, but she does not look like someone who would vote the Reps. Ashley appears to me - I'm an European with an ex GF from USA - like the normal Jane Doe from the East Coast. She's not backwards or something, but she has her traditions. Family comes first, but not because of religious reasons. Actually, her religiosity doesn't seem to have much influence on her life. She believes in a Creator, she even names this Creator "God" - but she never states if she's Christian, Jew or Muslim. She also does not tell Shepard if she's Catholic, Protestant, Baptist, etc. So it's up to the player to find the "right" religion for Ashley.

In my case she's a Protestant OR a Jew. She's not a fundamentalist and doesn't support extreme positions. Maybe something between - or she's like me, creating her very own PoV. Means: she's religious without following one of the big religions.

That's what I can see so far.

Ashley appears to be "normal". She has flaws and traits, she's almost like the girl next door. Of course, she's the girl next door that made career in the Army, is currently a Staff Sergeant or something and may kick your ass, but she's also a beautiful woman and "normal". And straight forward.

Let's take for example the reactions on the bsn. Some people and particularly those who don't like Ashley, hate religions were surprised, and found that incredible that Ashley could turn bi, ( let's not talk about if they were wrong or right, that isn't the subject and to each its opinion ) because precisely of her religiosity. When they heard that, they were like : Ashley bi ? But she believes in  god " Immediately, always the first reaction.

And it's a stupid reaction.
There's enough evidence for gay people following religions, in both ways. Just because it's a taboo to talk about - and in several nations such people get banned or imprisoned or even executed - it doesn't mean they don't exist.

Just keep in mind: it's still a taboo to talk about gay religious people in those religions. That's really backwards. Another proof Ashley isn't very conservative - at least not in today standards.

There is a real perception about Ashley, on the matter. And in my opinion, Bioware intended to do that in M1,  give a particular profil, the conservative marine, religious ( close to the american soldier lke some say to mock her ) ad they could decide to continue the same way.

Now, yes there are some people who wants to see her BI, But they could disagree on this issue.

As I said: religious works, but she's neither a strong believer (today standards would say she's a really WEAK follower of her religion) nor conservative.

She's her own character, doesn't follow the rules of political correctness (aka straight forward) and does what she thinks it's the right thing. Sure, she might be created to represent the ordinary soldier you also could meet today - I said she's basically a really normal person - but she's not. American soldiers are drilled to obey orders. Ashley speaks her mind quite frequently - she's no grunt that blindly runs into enemy fire because of her superior's orders.

That's a huge difference here.
(Not offending US soldiers here ... )

[Sylvianus]

I am a bit lost Capdata, i don't know where you tried to go ...

And still she's not conservative enough. She might be conservative in her time, but she does not look like someone who would vote the Reps. Ashley appears to me - I'm an European with an ex GF from USA - like the normal Jane Doe from the East Coast. She's not backwards or something, but she has her traditions. Family comes first, but not because of religious reasons. Actually, her religiosity doesn't seem to have much influence on her life. She believes in a Creator, she even names this Creator "God" - but she never states if she's Christian, Jew or Muslim. She also does not tell Shepard if she's Catholic, Protestant, Baptist, etc. So it's up to the player to find the "right" religion for Ashley.

In my case she's a Protestant OR a Jew. She's not a fundamentalist and doesn't support extreme positions. Maybe something between - or she's like me, creating her very own PoV. Means: she's religious without following one of the big religions.

That's what I can see so far.

Ashley appears to be "normal". She has flaws and traits, she's almost like the girl next door. Of course, she's the girl next door that made career in the Army, is currently a Staff Sergeant or something and may kick your ass, but she's also a beautiful woman and "normal". And straight forward.

Represented by Ashley:
- med religious people
- slightly religious people
- agnostics
- monotheists AND polytheists
- religious atheists (Buddhists - Buddha isn't considered as god).

I talked about those ones..  Why are you talking about fundamentalists? I do not speak about them I speak about those who are simply believers, like Ashley, moderate. Christian's profile is modest for the majority of people, not fundamentalists. The fact that she doesn't talk about catholics, blah blah doesn't matter. montheism, god, lines close to religions in real life. That's where the perception is established.  Why are you saying me she isn't fundamentalist ? That has nothing to do with what I said. Still the fact is she could be perceived as a religious person. religious doesn't mean fundamentalist, I don't know where you did get that. A modest or a weak believer can be religious. Or at least, that's what i am talking about.

To intend to keep a profile that speaks to ordinary people who are believers, does not mean that the person meets the expectations of fundamentalists or that the character is fundamentalist.

And it's a stupid reaction.
There's enough evidence for gay people following religions, in both ways. Just because it's a taboo to talk about - and in several nations such people get banned or imprisoned or even executed - it doesn't mean they don't exist.

No. Here we move away from a debate, and we are moving towards a path that does not please me.

I have already said that I did not judge that. The fact is that BioWare takes everything into account. If your goal is to make the judgment on other people's opinion, the discussion ends there, I'm not interested.
If I gave you this example is to show you how bioware has succeeded in giving the perception of a character, which seemed close to reality. Whether you agree or disagree.

And how the perception is established.

That's really backwards. Another proof Ashley isn't very conservative - at least not in today standards.

There you are just playing on words. ashley is conservative, whether very, or enough, or a little.  If you want to say me she isn't conservative, there I do not agree, I love Ashley but I am not blind. She can be conservatice about some things and not conservative about other things. ( politic opinions  )

She's her own character, doesn't follow the rules of political correctness (aka straight forward) and does what she thinks it's the right thing. Sure, she might be created to represent the ordinary soldier you also could meet today - I said she's basically a really normal person - but she's not. American soldiers are drilled to obey orders. Ashley speaks her mind quite frequently - she's no grunt that blindly runs into enemy fire because of her superior's orders.

You don't need to explain me that. I still struggle if you understood what I am talking about, from a different perspective that isn't mine. Obviously, Ashley is more than that. What counts here, is they intended something, and how basically she was perceved. If some people are wrong or right, again isn't the subject.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 10 février 2012 - 11:23 .

[CptData]

Just tried to carve out some things.

See, the reason why I deny that "Ashley is conservative" part is because I dislike conservatism. Sometimes it's a good thing to keep traditions and think conservative, but in most cases it's just backwards. I'm more a guy that wants to advance ethically and technologically - while conservatives tend to keep status quo.
Ashley shows a lot of traits proving I'm right: she's not conservative in most fields. The only field where she IS conservative is family. Even her view on religions isn't very conservative. Her own belief isn't strict or conservative, she accepts if Shepard is not a fellow Christian / Jew / Muslim / whatever. Her view on aliens starts quite conservative (reserved, not trusting) and changes if romanced & paragonized a lot.

Yeah, guess that's it. Rest of stuff is more or less like you said: unpleasant to discuss about it or we simply might not meet at the same point. ^^


So ... end of line. I do have something more pleasant in my mind right now - stay tuned :happy:

Modifié par CptData, 10 février 2012 - 10:25 .

[Sylvianus]

I don't know, that depends. From my country, to be conservative isn't a rude word, that's totally neutral, that's about politics and society, how you see them. Maybe in your country ttat's a negative word ? When I am saying she could be perceved as conservative, that means :

Someone who is patriot, who cares about family, religious, who tend to distrust a bit other countries, or at least want to see its country before the others in the competition, etc etc.

Ashley is religious, family, patriot / nationalist, cares about family, distrust aliens in general, and aliens governments. To me, you can't say she isn't sometimes conservative , or we do not have the same meaning for the word according to our countries.

Conservative in my country has nothing to do with zaelots, or bigots, or fundamentalists, or intolerant people.

But end of line, yes.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 10 février 2012 - 10:49 .

[CptData]

In Germany "conservatism" isn't that bad either ... but it's bigot. Horribly bigot.
End of line, we can do that in a PM if you want. Maybe there I can explain why I dislike conservatism. ^^ Doesn't fit to Ashley's thread.

Modifié par CptData, 10 février 2012 - 10:46 .

[Sylvianus]

No, I understand now, I didn't think that this view about conservative could have different interpretations, otherwise I would have been more clear earlier.

But let's talk about something else, indeed.

I love your dialogues with Ashley, CapData I read them often, but not all to be honest. I read only those which are before the war against the reapers. ( yeah I don't like to think about what's going on after or during M3, when I haven't played yet mass effect 3 lol )

Modifié par Sylvianus, 10 février 2012 - 11:22 .

[CptData]

Hey thanks.^^

The more pleasant stuff is a fu(a)n survey:

1. Is Ashley the first LI you romanced in the ME series?

2. Is Ash your only romance in the series or did you go after other characters as well?

3. Lets say Ashley is a real woman, living right the next door. You know she's currently single. Could you ask her for a date?

4. You managed to ask Ashley for a date. What kind of date would you have with her?

5. Lets say the date is a success. What's your next step?

6. The HONEST question: would you do an ONS (one-night stand) with Ashley?

7. Somehow you managed to get close to her and you have to meet Ashley, her sisters and her mother. What's the first thing you have in mind while looking at her mother, Ashley, Abby, Lynn and Sarah?

8. Lets go back to the beginning: you want to date Ashley but your ideas and opinions are entirely different to hers. Would you still date her?

9. It turns out Ashley is a tough soldier in R/L as well. She's Sergeant of a unit that fought in several battles. She tells you about some stuff. Would you still date her, especially in case you never served in the Army? Do you think Ashley might be interested in you?

10. Does your favorite book meet Ashley's taste?

^^

[MegaBadExample]

What a weird set of questions lol.

1. Nope. She wasn't, as I played ME2 first.
2. She's my canon Shepard's love interest. I did do other romances though. I'm just not interested importing those in ME3.
3. Pretty sure she'd tell me to go back to school. SHUT DOWN!
4. We'd go paintballing. I'd squeal like a b*tch, probably.
5. "I'll call you later, baby."
6. Yes. Yes I would.
7. "All these women could kick my ass. Don't break anything."
8. I wouldn't have a chance. So it wouldn't really matter either way.
9. Interested in me? Nope. Would I still want to date her if she was gone all year? Nope.
10. Nah. I doubt that.

[ADLegend21]

Sylvianus wrote...

I don't know how you read my post, but that was only speculation, why she couldn't be bi, I didn't give any opinion. I SAID I  feel that ashley will remain straight in M3, that's it.

Did you read what I wrote ? Most of religious people are straight, so that means also there could be bisexual and gays christians. But it is a minority among them.  Religious people besides in our modern society have more difficulties than other ( that is a fact and that's why many gays don't like religions or distrust religious people and call them bigots ) to accept homosexuality because their religions always said to them a man + a woman, the union, etc, . Now yes, there are gays christians, but that doesn't mean millions folks suddenly forgot what they have learned.

If Bioware think about something close to the average religious person in real life, ( and ashley's lines were close to the christian religion to me ) , they could think that it is better to keep her straight, according to their vision and compared to real life, because it could be a better representation according to them, that's it. Let's be honest. Ashley's religion in Mass effect is very close to those of real life. I doubt they would think about something else, otherwise they would have said more...

I didn't give my opinion actually, I meant that Ashley is the only Person in Mass effect who admits she believes in god, and for this reason, ( and other reasons as well ) bioware could keep her straight since most of religious people, are straight. That wouldn't be the only reason as well, but they already said that to turn her bi in M1 wouldn't do her justice. So, again, speculation.

I could be wrong, as well, but I never said that Bioware wasn't concerned by gay people, etc. I said they also give a damn about those who are concerned by character's integrity ( whether they are wrong or right according to you ) , I didn't say something more than that.

Sex lives do not count as "integrity" for characters, I also responded because he "speculation" of X character beleives in god so they can't be gay/bi because it's an incorrect assuption of the sexualities. Your statement in this post is much more accurate instead of the blakent generalization, I kind of wish you said this in the first place. I wasn't being "defensive" just not letting the assumption that you can't be homosexual and religious go unchecked because someone might actually believe it. Nothing beyond that and my personal interests were kept out.

[Cossack72]

1- Can't remember. Might have been.

2- Like Megabad, she is my Canon Shep's LI. I've romanced Tali, Miri, and Liara in other playthroughs.

3- Not even in my dreams.

4- Wow, someone must've put a spell on her to say yes Dinner date, I guess.

5- Absolutely no idea.

6- Again not even in my dreams. But I wouldn't want a one night fling; I want every night the rest of my life with her. At which point she'd make fun of how cheesy that sounds.

7- How good is their relationship with each other. If they hate each other then we've got some problems. Though if at the end of the day they care and love each other, then we're in the clear.

8- I'd be worried if she agreed with me all the time on everything, so yes, I would still date her. However I'd still wonder if a witch doctor didn't put a spell on her.

9- I'd try, but I doubt it'd end well. As for part 2 of that question: I highly doubt it.

10- Hell if I know; hardly have any favorite books.

I feel creepy now for some reason

Modifié par Cossack72, 10 février 2012 - 03:50 .

[ADLegend21]

CptData wrote...

Hey thanks.^^

The more pleasant stuff is a fu(a)n survey:

1. Is Ashley the first LI you romanced in the ME series?

2. Is Ash your only romance in the series or did you go after other characters as well?

3. Lets say Ashley is a real woman, living right the next door. You know she's currently single. Could you ask her for a date?

4. You managed to ask Ashley for a date. What kind of date would you have with her?

5. Lets say the date is a success. What's your next step?

6. The HONEST question: would you do an ONS (one-night stand) with Ashley?

7. Somehow you managed to get close to her and you have to meet Ashley, her sisters and her mother. What's the first thing you have in mind while looking at her mother, Ashley, Abby, Lynn and Sarah?

8. Lets go back to the beginning: you want to date Ashley but your ideas and opinions are entirely different to hers. Would you still date her?

9. It turns out Ashley is a tough soldier in R/L as well. She's Sergeant of a unit that fought in several battles. She tells you about some stuff. Would you still date her, especially in case you never served in the Army? Do you think Ashley might be interested in you?

10. Does your favorite book meet Ashley's taste?

^^

oo this looks fun.

1.) No. I was one of the late players to the part and discovered the game completely by accident. I saw the sci vs fi special on ME2 and I knew I had to pick it up. My first iteration of Adam is a Mirandamance with Ashley alive becuse of the default settings for maleshep.

2.) again no I've romanced all the things and done every possible LI's romance path. she is one of my favorites however.

3.)*knocking on her door to see if she wants to catch a movie*

4.) Movie maybe a sporting event if she was up for it, or maybe dinner.

5.)umm...another date?

6.)I'm a pretty upfront person, If that's all she was going to give me I'd take it but it'd be up to her.

7.)Probably Ashley since She's the oldest so she might have the most resemblance to her mom, but that's still a mystery.

8.)Yeah. They say that oppoites attract and it's true to certain extents. There have to be some similarities for common ground but the oppsotes could lead to some great conversations and relationship building.

9.)I'd totally go after her. She could probably help me get into shape if I worked out with her I know some soldiers and they have spouses who are civilians so I think Ashley would be open to the idea of having a realtionshi with a civilian. I'd worry of course when she's i combat because I'm not there to help, but I know she's tough and she's over qualified to succeed in combat.

10.)umm...I hope she's a harry potter fan.

[razgriz21]

1. Yep!

2. The one and only (woman named Ashley and how have dark hair are my kryptonite)

3. I would certainly work up the courage and try.

4. Firing range, bookstore, and billards

5. Movie and or something physical (jogging, swimming, etc)

6. I would hope it would be more.

7. What a large family.

8. I'd still try.

9. I would hope so.

10. Yes if she enjoys military fiction.

[Sylvianus]

@ Ad Legend, You were on the defensive, yes. You need also to be more tolerant about other's opinions, even if it is just speculation lol. You just jumped on a word and misunderstood.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 10 février 2012 - 05:43 .

[NICKjnp]

1. I got Ninja-manced by Liara on my first playrhroughs :/

2. I have multiple playthroughs.

3. I'm a grown up. If I'm interested in woman and we get along well then sure.

4. Something casual first and dinner second.

5. Another date.

6. No...and she doesn't seem the type to either.

7. Ehhh...family doesn't intimidate me.

8. We have similar views already.

9. Sorry to be the party pooper but this hasn't happened yet. I wouldn't be opposed but women aren't in combat positions like that yet.

10. Yes.

[Complistic]

new ashley screenshots

Modifié par Complistic, 10 février 2012 - 05:25 .

[MegaBadExample]

Heh. Female Shepard is wearing more make up than Ash. Ashley looks more natural. Good, she's a damn soldier! Hahaa... Yes... and their boobs are side by side, and I am comparing. There's a clear OBVIOUS winner for me.

Lol @ James' face. He seems to have taken an interest to Liara... Gig-at-teeee.

Kinda wish we got a clear look at Kaidan instead though... Won't complain.
Dat Ash in Dat armor.

Modifié par MegaBadExample, 10 février 2012 - 05:38 .

[CptData]

Need to watch the movie. Nice answers so far ... may I give my own try? Sure - here you go:

1. Is Ashley the first LI you romanced in the ME series?
The first Shepard that made it through ME1 has Ashley as LI, but the first Shepard I created wanted Liara. That playthrough never got completed.
My currently finished playthroughs - ready to import for ME3 - have Ashley as LI.

2. Is Ash your only romance in the series or did you go after other characters as well?
Currently she's the only "finished" / "active" LI. One of my Shepard flirted with Tali too, but never went into something deeper 'cause of the risk. And as I said, there was a playthrough with Liara that never got finished.

3. Lets say Ashley is a real woman, living right the next door. You know she's currently single. Could you ask her for a date?
Totally yes. I'm neither tall nor that handsome, but that doesn't matter. Maybe Ashley is the kind of woman that goes more for character than anything else? I'd die if I wouldn't try it.

4. You managed to ask Ashley for a date. What kind of date would you have with her?
Something neutral, maybe sitting in a Café and talking about stuff. It's quite early to do the "Dinner dates". Think Ashley even might suggest where to have that date, I would accept.

5. Lets say the date is a success. What's your next step?
Ask for another date, share numbers. Even if she's just my neighbor, it doesn't damage anything to stay in contact. Also it kinda helps to write SMS right after that first date, maybe a day later or so ... uhh ... I got my fiancee that way

6. The HONEST question: would you do an ONS (one-night stand) with Ashley?
No. Even if she suggests one, I would refuse. It could be a test or something - if doing the ONS closes the option to be with her, then it's an absolute "no-go". Also I'd respect her too much for some random f*ck - especially if she's a soldier.

7. Somehow you managed to get close to her and you have to meet Ashley, her sisters and her mother. What's the first thing you have in mind while looking at her mother, Ashley, Abby, Lynn and Sarah?
How to get out alive.
Seriously. They're awesome and masters of martial arts. No need to mess it up. Think I'll keep my mind with Ashley, count numbers - or simply talk to them, trying to break the ice.

8. Lets go back to the beginning: you want to date Ashley but your ideas and opinions are entirely different to hers. Would you still date her?
If Ashley turns out to be too different from the image I had, then no. If it's what I am looking for, then yes. ^^

9. It turns out Ashley is a tough soldier in R/L as well. She's Sergeant of a unit that fought in several battles. She tells you about some stuff. Would you still date her, especially in case you never served in the Army? Do you think Ashley might be interested in you?
No. She wouldn't find anything interesting in my. However, I'd join the army and do even more exercises to become a bleep on the radar, even if it's most likely she'll find another dude before I'm prepared. Sad things happen ...

10. Does your favorite book meet Ashley's taste?
Nop. Except she likes -really- good books ^^

[KateKane]

Complistic wrote...

new ashley screenshots

So she does wear loose hair in combat.
Seriously, **** that.