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Lt. Commander Ashley Williams thread: "Don't 'Ash' me!" We're Back Baby!


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Burneye Is God wrote...

V-rex wrote...

EDIT: Nevermind someone else beat me to it.

Well, might as well post this picture of the Play Arts figures again in the hope that if I covet them hard enough their finished models will spontaniously appear on my desk.

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*stares at desk*

... Damn.






thank you for posting Posted Image they are awesome!!!

I posted this before him, thank you very much.

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CptData wrote...

Shepard: Garrus, on a word.
Garrus: Yes, Commander?
Shepard: I know you're the guy with the reach. But I say it only once: don't test Ashley's flexibility. That's my job.
Garrus: Oh, no problem, Commander. I think Tali's flexibility is much better than Ashley's anyways.
Shepard: ... what?
Garrus: Exactly.
Shepard: That screams for a contest.
Tali: What "contest"?
Ashley: Yeah, what "contest"? That "flexibility contest" again I won against Liara, Miranda and Jack?
Shepard: WHAT?!
Garrus: See, you're not the first one with that idea ...


Data, you're killing me!

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(I have nothing but MS Paint here, so this'll have to do.)

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Igib wrote...

CptData wrote...

Shepard: Garrus, on a word.
Garrus: Yes, Commander?
Shepard: I know you're the guy with the reach. But I say it only once: don't test Ashley's flexibility. That's my job.
Garrus: Oh, no problem, Commander. I think Tali's flexibility is much better than Ashley's anyways.
Shepard: ... what?
Garrus: Exactly.
Shepard: That screams for a contest.
Tali: What "contest"?
Ashley: Yeah, what "contest"? That "flexibility contest" again I won against Liara, Miranda and Jack?
Shepard: WHAT?!
Garrus: See, you're not the first one with that idea ...


Data, you're killing me!

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(I have nothing but MS Paint here, so this'll have to do.)


It's staring into my soul :mellow:

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xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

 

ADLegend21 wrote...

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

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ADLegend21 wrote...

Not really. no matter what you put her in on Virmire she's in that heavy armor that they RECYCLED on Horizon. I hate that she wears the same outfit for 2 years while everyone else gets new armors. Also Everyone's sexed up, Bioware was only blunt about it with Ashley. Vega wears less clothing than Ashley does, his is also thinner than her outfit, at least her outfit has SOME armor on it.Posted Image


We've gone over this before:  It's not about skin, it's not about armor.  It's about style.  If we were going by sheer amount of skin shown, Samara's outfit has less sex appeal than Vega's tooPosted Image

Ash's outfit is being called a military uniform.  A uniform uniquely designed with the sole purpose of making Ash "stylish"  Me, I'd rather she had something like Kaidan's outfit.  I find it stylish as well.  And in a way that also says "bad**** marine" too.

Why can't I have that, and you can keep the stylish jacket?  


Kaidan's casual outfit has been shown? Do provide a link please!!! 

he wears the vanilla uniform Shepard does because he's totally boring yo
/uneducated fan opinion.

apart from the humor he does wear the same uniform as Shepard, granted he's packing WAY more muscle than he did in the first two games and he's also in the running for the "most likely to rip shirt by sneezing" superaltive with Vega.Posted Image


OMG... OF COURSE he does!!!

he gets an appropriate outfit to wear when not suited up for combat... and Ashely doesn't. Such a load of bull****!  




Mr. Brainheart wrote...

And about Vega, they obviously went for sex appeal too with the bulky muscles and the skintight shirt, but it's harder for me too judge if the sexing up is equal for both genders or not since I'm not female or gay and don't clearly know how they experience it.


The difference here, to me anyway, is that... sure they went for the manly, seriously buff appeal here with Vega. HOWEVER, he still gets to look like appropriate when not in combat armor and it's actually something that soldiers would wear while still being in the "sex appeal" category.

RL soldiers casual outfit:
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Vega:
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Ashley:
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I mean seriously.... WTF? The whole... "they sexed everyone up" excuse is fail. 

How can you guys not see the clear difference here? 





If you're going to be the angry old man complaining about everything, at least use what she actually looks like.
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xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...


I mean seriously.... WTF? The whole... "they sexed everyone up" excuse is fail. 

How can you guys not see the clear difference here? 



because sexualizing males is confused with Idealizeing them. The ideal man has 24 in python arms, a 6 pack of abs, a toned but, huge thighs, and muscley calfs. EVERY guy would love to have a body like that so when you see a buff guy you don't think "what an unrealistic image of the male body, I'm appauld" you think "Damn I wanna work out to be like him" All the while They're easy on the eyes of heterosexual women and gay men who have fantasies of very intimate realtions with said muscle bound men. fro Kaidan they said "We buffe dhim up to show he's been in battle" He's 32 in ME1 and 35 in ME3 OF COURSE HE'S SEEN BATTLE! it was an convienent excuse for them to give him a body model similar to Vega after everyone COMPLAINED about him being really muscley.

As for Ashley outfit I'm just gonna quote badpie on this, since you don't seem to believe me:

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"Hooker with an assault rifle"? Was it the modest turtle neck line, the long sleeves, the heavy gloves or the full pants and boots that made you think this? She's not even dressed provocatively for the Amish.



Do you Dare refute the authority on all things Ashely?! DO YOU REED?Posted ImagePosted Image

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HURRR...

when I'm making a post, I want to make sure I don't forget what I'm gonna say by looking for pictures for too long. I typed in "Mass Effect 3 Ashley" in google and went with the first body shot I saw. Sue me.

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ADLegend21 wrote...

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...


I mean seriously.... WTF? The whole... "they sexed everyone up" excuse is fail. 

How can you guys not see the clear difference here? 



because sexualizing males is confused with Idealizeing them. The ideal man has 24 in python arms, a 6 pack of abs, a toned but, huge thighs, and muscley calfs. EVERY guy would love to have a body like that so when you see a buff guy you don't think "what an unrealistic image of the male body, I'm appauld" you think "Damn I wanna work out to be like him" All the while They're easy on the eyes of heterosexual women and gay men who have fantasies of very intimate realtions with said muscle bound men. fro Kaidan they said "We buffe dhim up to show he's been in battle" He's 32 in ME1 and 35 in ME3 OF COURSE HE'S SEEN BATTLE! it was an convienent excuse for them to give him a body model similar to Vega after everyone COMPLAINED about him being really muscley.

As for Ashley outfit I'm just gonna quote badpie on this, since you don't seem to believe me:

Badpie wrote...

"Hooker with an assault rifle"? Was it the modest turtle neck line, the long sleeves, the heavy gloves or the full pants and boots that made you think this? She's not even dressed provocatively for the Amish.



Do you Dare refute the authority on all things Ashely?! DO YOU REED?Posted ImagePosted Image


To the first point:

Fact still remains that Vega looks like soldier on and off duty. Ashley does not.

To the second point:

Yes. 

And FTR, it's not the amount of skin showing that makes her look a certain way... it's NEVER been about the amount of skin.

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If it's not about the skin what is it about then? The armored shoulders? Wedges not heels? padding on the chest? Weapon holders on the back? Knee pads on the boots? or is it the fact that she has hair similar to femshep's "classy" hairstyle?

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ADLegend21 wrote...

If it's not about the skin what is it about then? The armored shoulders? Wedges not heels? padding on the chest? Weapon holders on the back? Knee pads on the boots? or is it the fact that she has hair similar to femshep's "classy" hairstyle?


It's the style and the 180 turn around from what she was in ME1 & 2. 

And no it's not about the amount of skin (there is none lol), padding on her chest, weapon holders, hair, makeup, or anything like that.

It's the tightness, the tacky look (I mean, seriously, look at it), the "jacket" looking like a skirt, thigh high heels, etc. 

You put her in a casual outfit like shepard, kaidan, or vega and I have absolutely no problems with her whatsoever. And if you wanna give it sex appeal... make it super tight, at least it will still look like something a soldier would wear when not armored up.

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xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

If it's not about the skin what is it about then? The armored shoulders? Wedges not heels? padding on the chest? Weapon holders on the back? Knee pads on the boots? or is it the fact that she has hair similar to femshep's "classy" hairstyle?


It's the style and the 180 turn around from what she was in ME1 & 2. 

And no it's not about the amount of skin (there is none lol), padding on her chest, weapon holders, hair, makeup, or anything like that.

It's the tightness, the tacky look (I mean, seriously, look at it), the "jacket" looking like a skirt, thigh high heels, etc. 

You put her in a casual outfit like shepard, kaidan, or vega and I have absolutely no problems with her whatsoever. And if you wanna give it sex appeal... make it super tight, at least it will still look like something a soldier would wear when not armored up.


They're not heels, they're wedges, big difference there. She was exactly the same for 2 years in game same Armor, Same hair, Same everything. That's more insulting to me since they decided she didn't warrent a new look like the other squadmates from the previous game. Wrex got new armor, Liara got a new outfit, Garrus and Tali got two because they were on the ME2 squad, even Kaidan has two seperate armors. That's BS. Now she finally has her own individual look and you're complaining that she's not like everyone else after we complained about her and Kaidan being treated like one person because of Horizon. You can't have it both ways Reed.Posted Image

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@Reed; I can get that, I understand how you can feel it's not Ash, it's not what I had expected Ash to wear either, although after having thought about I realised I always assumed she liked the ME1 outfit, ofcourse she might prefer something more feminine, I think it could fit the character.

About it not fitting in with Alliance standards, it's probably true, we haven't seen anyone else in the Alliance wear something like that and Ashley isn't that special it seems. On the other hand maybe it's not forbidden to wear what she wears as a casual armour, maybe a lot of people don't dare to wear anything else than normal outfits because of some kind of stigma. It might be close to stretching what you can believe but I don't think it's impossible. In part they probably created it to make her stand out from the crowd, maybe it fits her in ME3, maybe she stand out from the crowd in personality as well? There are possibilities here.

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*reading Reed + AD argument*

Ashley's reaction:
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ADLegend21 wrote...

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

If it's not about the skin what is it about then? The armored shoulders? Wedges not heels? padding on the chest? Weapon holders on the back? Knee pads on the boots? or is it the fact that she has hair similar to femshep's "classy" hairstyle?


It's the style and the 180 turn around from what she was in ME1 & 2. 

And no it's not about the amount of skin (there is none lol), padding on her chest, weapon holders, hair, makeup, or anything like that.

It's the tightness, the tacky look (I mean, seriously, look at it), the "jacket" looking like a skirt, thigh high heels, etc. 

You put her in a casual outfit like shepard, kaidan, or vega and I have absolutely no problems with her whatsoever. And if you wanna give it sex appeal... make it super tight, at least it will still look like something a soldier would wear when not armored up.


They're not heels, they're wedges, big difference there. She was exactly the same for 2 years in game same Armor, Same hair, Same everything. That's more insulting to me since they decided she didn't warrent a new look like the other squadmates from the previous game. Wrex got new armor, Liara got a new outfit, Garrus and Tali got two because they were on the ME2 squad, even Kaidan has two seperate armors. That's BS. Now she finally has her own individual look and you're complaining that she's not like everyone else after we complained about her and Kaidan being treated like one person because of Horizon. You can't have it both ways Reed.Posted Image


I don't recall complaining that she wore the same armor in ME2. Big deal... she was only it in for 5 minutes. So there was no point anyway.

Now though, she has the new hair, the make-up, the new dark blue armor.... what's so wrong about wanting an outfit that's not tacky and out of place especially compared with her male counterparts? 

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because it's not tacky. it's in line with some outfits to protagonist has worn which includes a LBD for a formal event. Seeing as Ashley is at a Formal meeting I'd say she looks well dressed in her dress jacket.

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Nothing you can say is going to change Reed's mind on the matter. It comes down to opinion. I think it's really neat and looks very science fictiony. reed wants something more realistic (in a game about giant space robots), and he's entitled to that opinion.

Clearly faster than light travel, "universal translators", and aliens that can reproduce through magic don't break his illusion of reality, but heels on a soldier? How dare they sir.

Modifié par Complistic, 19 février 2012 - 06:28 .


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@Complistic: This! I think every argument for and against has been given by now. I have the feeling this is as far as we're ever gonna get.


http://cloud.steampo...6D7E318928668F/
What do you mean the Ashley thread is still arguing over my ME3 outfit, skipper? Unlikely story!
*looks at Ash-thread*

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Sorry Shepard ... seems you were really right. Posted Image I'm dissapoint. I'll wear whatever I damn well want!

a few hours later:
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Shepard: Ash you're overreacting!
Ashley: No, they are! If I want to wear ... this I will!
Shepard: To be honest...I wasn't complaining, it's just...wouldn't you rather wear this in private? like in my quarters. Much calmer. Posted Image

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Mr. Brainheart wrote...

What do you mean the Ashley thread is still arguing over my ME3 outfit, skipper? Unlikely story!


Show me some new stuff to argue about (pertaining to Ashley) and I'll be happy to argue about something else. lol

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Complistic wrote...

Nothing you can say is going to change Reed's mind on the matter. It comes down to opinion. I think it's really neat and looks very science fictiony. reed wants something more realistic (in a game about giant space robots), and he's entitled to that opinion.

Clearly faster than light travel, "universal translators", and aliens that can reproduce through magic don't break his illusion of reality, but heels on a soldier? How dare they sir.


It may very well look "science fictiony" ... but look at everyone else in the room. IF they were all science fictiony looking too, it'd make sense. As it is, she's the only one and it sticks out and looks tacky. 

And as for the second, sarcasm filled, point...

FTL, translators, and aliens are expected in a game like this. THEY MAKE SENSE to be there. Soldiers in heels are not a good idea... game about space robots or not. 

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xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

Mr. Brainheart wrote...

What do you mean the Ashley thread is still arguing over my ME3 outfit, skipper? Unlikely story!


Show me some new stuff to argue about (pertaining to Ashley) and I'll be happy to argue about something else. lol

Does Ashley like dancing more or singing? This one has been itching me for quite a while actually.
I mean, I figure she loves to sing (badly) as loud as she can when showering and after a couple of beers she'd throw herself into a Karaoke competition I think. But she also loves showing you some of her dance moves (which Shepard desperately needs) and I could see her getting fanatical about that too.

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Complistic wrote...

Nothing you can say is going to change Reed's mind on the matter. It comes down to opinion. I think it's really neat and looks very science fictiony. reed wants something more realistic (in a game about giant space robots), and he's entitled to that opinion.


I think what Reed wants is a more realistic uniform in a game that showed Alliance personel (including Ash in the past) wearing more realistic uniforms.  Including in ME3 itself.  Including Kaidan, Joker, and Shepard him/herself.  A feeling I share.

Space Cthulhu has nothing to do with it

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xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

Mr. Brainheart wrote...

What do you mean the Ashley thread is still arguing over my ME3 outfit, skipper? Unlikely story!


Show me some new stuff to argue about (pertaining to Ashley) and I'll be happy to argue about something else. lol

How about that  the VS will betray  us in ME3 (they will think that Kai Leng works for the good guys and Shepard has to convince them not trust Kai L. or he has shoot the VS, killing them) and after the Mars mission (next mission after Earth) the VS is in a hospital for half of the game.
Forget about Ashleys new look, this is  the real  problem I have about ME3.

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iakus wrote...

Complistic wrote...

Nothing you can say is going to change Reed's mind on the matter. It comes down to opinion. I think it's really neat and looks very science fictiony. reed wants something more realistic (in a game about giant space robots), and he's entitled to that opinion.


I think what Reed wants is a more realistic uniform in a game that showed Alliance personel (including Ash in the past) wearing more realistic uniforms.  Including in ME3 itself.  Including Kaidan, Joker, and Shepard him/herself.  A feeling I share.

Space Cthulhu has nothing to do with it


I wish there was a like button! lol

This person gets it. 

Bioware why u no give Ashley this?

http://desmond.image....jpg&res=medium

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Mr. Brainheart wrote...

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

Mr. Brainheart wrote...

What do you mean the Ashley thread is still arguing over my ME3 outfit, skipper? Unlikely story!


Show me some new stuff to argue about (pertaining to Ashley) and I'll be happy to argue about something else. lol

Does Ashley like dancing more or singing? This one has been itching me for quite a while actually.
I mean, I figure she loves to sing (badly) as loud as she can when showering and after a couple of beers she'd throw herself into a Karaoke competition I think. But she also loves showing you some of her dance moves (which Shepard desperately needs) and I could see her getting fanatical about that too.


Dancing (based on what I've hear in-game). She talks about dancing and showing off her moves and you can also see her dance in the game.

Plus, if your evidence above is anything to go by...

I'd say dancing wins. ^_^

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lol at the spoilers.

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iakus wrote...

Complistic wrote...

Nothing you can say is going to change Reed's mind on the matter. It comes down to opinion. I think it's really neat and looks very science fictiony. reed wants something more realistic (in a game about giant space robots), and he's entitled to that opinion.


I think what Reed wants is a more realistic uniform in a game that showed Alliance personel (including Ash in the past) wearing more realistic uniforms.  Including in ME3 itself.  Including Kaidan, Joker, and Shepard him/herself.  A feeling I share.

Space Cthulhu has nothing to do with it

ah yes "military uniforms"
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we have dismissed this claim.

I guess it'd be too much to get Ashley an S1 hoodie for her classification.Posted Image