MegaBadExample wrote...
Yeaaaaaaaaaah, I don't have much faith in Mac. Ashley and Kaidan's writers are gone now. They were never intended to be bisexual, it wasn't part of the plan at all. Now, it's changed becuase, the VS is in the same role, same shoes, so what's the point in being exclusive? It make sense from Bioware's POV, but it doesn't click. And I truly don't feel like it's doing justice to Ashley's character overall. There's a solid chance that Ashley is going against her religion and all the tradition in the world and all that blaaaah. But I won't get into all that.
When you see some of the lines, it doesn't fit and makes Ash OOC. In the s/s romance with Ash it isn't even brought up that Shepard is a woman at all, Ashley doesn’t even acknowledge it at all. As soon as you hit the first flag and active the start of a romance. You don't get an explanation for it. Yet she refers to a romanced male Shepard as guy ONLY at the start and middle, before that point. It's a half ass-job, and Bioware don't explain it, and actually try to do a little justice to an s/s vs romance.
Without going into spoilers, If you romanced Ashley before in ME1.... You'll get different romance options with her right up until you get to a certain point in the game. Only here is when the new players can pursue a romance with Ashley. Her romance dialogue goes from being, exclusively straight, to all gendered.
Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...
i love Ashley but i also love Miranda. I'm so conflicted
Yeah, they're both awesome. I'm going to have a hard time choosing between them on my canon playthrough (male shep).Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...
i love Ashley but i also love Miranda. I'm so conflicted
CptData wrote...
Aurora313 wrote...
^
Shepard is not pleased... where's his hug?
Pre-Hug?
elektrego wrote...
elektrego wrote...
:wub:... nice cap elektrego!
MegaBadExample wrote...
Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...
i love Ashley but i also love Miranda. I'm so conflicted
Joiiiiiiiiiiiin us, brother.
When did you start loving Ashley?
Modifié par Totally Not Swaggacide, 24 février 2012 - 01:57 .
We've been trying to tell you people this for the passed three years!Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...
MegaBadExample wrote...
Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...
i love Ashley but i also love Miranda. I'm so conflicted
Joiiiiiiiiiiiin us, brother.
When did you start loving Ashley?
In Mass Effect 1 at first i hated her. I thought she was just a racist but the more the talk to her i feel like i saw her true self. I saw how Shepard changed her and how she loved him and that made feel the same way.
Mr. Brainheart wrote...
Mentioning this I realise I should give Ash and waffles a chance...Maybe Reed is right, maybe she does love waffles, in that case...She loves waffles and pancakes.Now that's true love.
MegaBadExample wrote...
We've been trying to tell you people this for the passed three years!Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...
MegaBadExample wrote...
Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...
i love Ashley but i also love Miranda. I'm so conflicted
Joiiiiiiiiiiiin us, brother.
When did you start loving Ashley?
In Mass Effect 1 at first i hated her. I thought she was just a racist but the more the talk to her i feel like i saw her true self. I saw how Shepard changed her and how she loved him and that made feel the same way.
Y U NO LISTEN SOONER?
I'm joking, welcome. I think if you want the fullest out of a romance, play it right and stay faithful. Then you can romance another character in a different playthrough. As for me, I've only got two playthroughs. One with my broShep who's loyal to Ash and the other my femShep who's loyal to Kaidan.
MegaBadExample wrote...
Okay, okay. The rumours I've been hearing are not just about the VS being bisexual. There is plenty of other stuff that I've only just heard. that make me think: “WTF?” So I'm clearing that up.
I would love for Bioware to come out and explain to me why they did it, to BOTH Ashley and Kaidan (Funny thing that. Wonder why?)
The way I see it, Bioware only made the VS an s/s romance now, at the end of the series, is because at the end of the day, they're basically the same character in the same role now, so what's the point in them being exclusive? And we all know the VS gets the short end of the stick from Bioware.
Anyway, Bioware will play it most likely like this: "The VS has always loved you even though they've shown no interest in the same sex before." So they can fit in with the current romance. That right there is what will set me off. If she was feeling you, Ashley is a confident enough woman to come out and say it straight in ME1, like she did with male Shepard, like she did with her religion. Call that OOC if she suddenly comes out of the closet and says that all shyly like Liara.
They wouldn’t pull the whole “your suddenly bisexual now” with Tali, Garrus or Miranda that’s for sure, and they didn’t.
…But you’re right, love can develop. It didn’t exist in ME1 as Ashley showed no interest, but in ME3 it can after a certain point (half way through the game after the *U* Scene.) and I can live with that so long as Bioware don’t pull the whole: “I’ve always felt this way about you.” when we know that's not the case. It's all about how they handle it, and make it fit to Ashley… NOT K/A as Bioware refer to them as.
It's not the sudden of the s/s romance, it’s more of the VS being pushed into the same character, same interests, and the same situation when it doesn’t fit. They could make it fit, but that would require two different romances, and there is no way in hell that is happening.
That's why I'm expecting OOC Ashley. “I've always loved you. I've crushed on you from the beginning.” No.... That wasn't true.
Maybe I'm showing a lack of faith on Bioware part, because I read messed up stuff the other day. I dunno.
Yes, even in ME2 that has really gone without question. Have you read the leaks? I can send you some romantic dialogue if you want, so you know what's in store a little.Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...
MegaBadExample wrote...
We've been trying to tell you people this for the passed three years!Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...
MegaBadExample wrote...
Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...
i love Ashley but i also love Miranda. I'm so conflicted
Joiiiiiiiiiiiin us, brother.
When did you start loving Ashley?
In Mass Effect 1 at first i hated her. I thought she was just a racist but the more the talk to her i feel like i saw her true self. I saw how Shepard changed her and how she loved him and that made feel the same way.
Y U NO LISTEN SOONER?
I'm joking, welcome. I think if you want the fullest out of a romance, play it right and stay faithful. Then you can romance another character in a different playthrough. As for me, I've only got two playthroughs. One with my broShep who's loyal to Ash and the other my femShep who's loyal to Kaidan.
i do love Miranda as well though so im keeping my main and only Shepard which romanced both. But is Ashley still in love with Shepard?
MegaBadExample wrote...
Yes, even in ME2 that has really gone without question. Have you read the leaks? I can send you some romantic dialogue if you want, so you know what's in store a little.Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...
MegaBadExample wrote...
We've been trying to tell you people this for the passed three years!Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...
MegaBadExample wrote...
Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...
i love Ashley but i also love Miranda. I'm so conflicted
Joiiiiiiiiiiiin us, brother.
When did you start loving Ashley?
In Mass Effect 1 at first i hated her. I thought she was just a racist but the more the talk to her i feel like i saw her true self. I saw how Shepard changed her and how she loved him and that made feel the same way.
Y U NO LISTEN SOONER?
I'm joking, welcome. I think if you want the fullest out of a romance, play it right and stay faithful. Then you can romance another character in a different playthrough. As for me, I've only got two playthroughs. One with my broShep who's loyal to Ash and the other my femShep who's loyal to Kaidan.
i do love Miranda as well though so im keeping my main and only Shepard which romanced both. But is Ashley still in love with Shepard?
Pushed and bullied? maybe. but that's life. FFTL community didn't push or bully more than anyone who's wanted something added to the game post ME1. Tali and Garurs fans got their romances, why should we have to sit back and be nice and quiet when we wanted something? I do however WHOLEHEARTEDLY REFUTE that those who felt differently were called bigots outright. I know SEVERAL people who have disagreed with me on making Ashley (since this is her thread) S/S and I'm still great friends with them. It's when there's HATEFUL, malicious, and downright rude disagree ments that the casues someone to get called bigots and being told your beliefs do not matter. Whenyou're only in it to ruin someone's happiness in favor of your own, that's where the line gets crossed and the rules go out of the window.NICKjnp wrote...
MegaBadExample wrote...
Yeaaaaaaaaaah, I don't have much faith in Mac. Ashley and Kaidan's writers are gone now. They were never intended to be bisexual, it wasn't part of the plan at all. Now, it's changed becuase, the VS is in the same role, same shoes, so what's the point in being exclusive? It make sense from Bioware's POV, but it doesn't click. And I truly don't feel like it's doing justice to Ashley's character overall. There's a solid chance that Ashley is going against her religion and all the tradition in the world and all that blaaaah. But I won't get into all that.
When you see some of the lines, it doesn't fit and makes Ash OOC. In the s/s romance with Ash it isn't even brought up that Shepard is a woman at all, Ashley doesn’t even acknowledge it at all. As soon as you hit the first flag and active the start of a romance. You don't get an explanation for it. Yet she refers to a romanced male Shepard as guy ONLY at the start and middle, before that point. It's a half ass-job, and Bioware don't explain it, and actually try to do a little justice to an s/s vs romance.
Without going into spoilers, If you romanced Ashley before in ME1.... You'll get different romance options with her right up until you get to a certain point in the game. Only here is when the new players can pursue a romance with Ashley. Her romance dialogue goes from being, exclusively straight, to all gendered.
I agree completely but the FFTL community pushed and bullied. They got what they wanted and the rest of us who felt differently were either called bigots or told our beliefs didn't matter. The waived the politicaly correct flag in everyone's face and said fall in line or shut up. So this is my last game that I'll buy from Bioware. I've stated my feelings before so there is no need to state them again. I just hope they remove any reference what so ever of her being religious because that will cause the biggest uproar that you'll see on here. And yes...I'll be right there in the middle of it.
And FYI: If I, a moderate Christian, feel this then there will be plenty of others who feel the same way if not more so. So people can go ahead and call me what they want. I'm used to the manipulation on these forums by now and I don't care anymore.
MegaBadExample wrote...
She will be available.
Ashley is straight, but if pursued by female Shepard, she will agree to go byeeeeeeeeeeeee because Shepard is special.
Hold on there Reed. Ashley not as confident as you make her out to be.xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...
When you put it that way... I totally agree with you.
I mean I'm all for my FemShep getting in on the Ashley loving... but, you're right, coming out all shyly about it would totally be OOC for Ashley. She's just not like that... waaay too confident in her own skin.
And Kaidan shouldn't have the same version of "coming out" as Ashley either. They are different characters with different personalities.
PMC65 wrote...
2) It will make the relationship seem more real and even sweeter. Their feelings have time to evolve instead of just jumping straight into bed.
Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...
i think i'm falling in love with Ashley again..... must resist..........
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