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[shepard1038]

Badpie wrote...

MegaBadExample wrote...

FemShep: Y U NO ROMANCE ME?
ME1 Ashley: I'm not attracted to women. Oh, hey... look is that manShep?
FemShep: =(

ME2 Ashley: Shepard you traitor! GOODBYE!

ME3Ashley: Oh, hey guuuuurl. You look fab. Let's get together.
FemShep: Oh yeah. Me gusta.

Myself: BIOWARE Y U NO B CONSISTANT!?

ME1MaleShep: Y U NO ROMANCE ME KAIDAN!?
ME1Kaidan: Oh, geez, Shepard. I didn't think I was giving you the wrong signals.
ME1MalepShep: U LURV ME DEN?
ME1Kaidan: Uh...I'm not interested in that way, sir.

ME2Kaidan: Shepard you traitor! GOODBYE!

ME3Kaidan: I'VE CHANGED MY MIND ABOUT EVERYTHING!

Hey great dialogues except you completely made up the parts where Ash and Kaidan said they were only interested in the opposite sex.

Oh and also the part where you have no idea how the discussion will even come about in the third game.

Can we calm down.

[Badpie]

Sorry. I'm just seeing so much idiocy on this thread the last couple of days it's not taking much for me to snap. Not that I'm calling Megabad an idiot at all. I just think he's assuming way too much and then getting upset about it.

But it's hard to ignore all the ignorance in the other threads and I don't like it when it bleeds into the one thread that I frequent.

[MegaBadExample]

The dialogue wasn't there in game, but I felt the point came across clearly enough.

Kaidan and Ashley only showed interest in the opposite sex.

[MegaBadExample]

shepard1038 wrote...

Badpie wrote...

MegaBadExample wrote...

FemShep: Y U NO ROMANCE ME?
ME1 Ashley: I'm not attracted to women. Oh, hey... look is that manShep?
FemShep: =(

ME2 Ashley: Shepard you traitor! GOODBYE!

ME3Ashley: Oh, hey guuuuurl. You look fab. Let's get together.
FemShep: Oh yeah. Me gusta.

Myself: BIOWARE Y U NO B CONSISTANT!?

ME1MaleShep: Y U NO ROMANCE ME KAIDAN!?
ME1Kaidan: Oh, geez, Shepard. I didn't think I was giving you the wrong signals.
ME1MalepShep: U LURV ME DEN?
ME1Kaidan: Uh...I'm not interested in that way, sir.

ME2Kaidan: Shepard you traitor! GOODBYE!

ME3Kaidan: I'VE CHANGED MY MIND ABOUT EVERYTHING!

Hey great dialogues except you completely made up the parts where Ash and Kaidan said they were only interested in the opposite sex.

Oh and also the part where you have no idea how the discussion will even come about in the third game.

Can we calm down.

Excuse me, but I'm having fun.

[Badpie]

MegaBadExample wrote...

The dialogue wasn't there in game, but I felt the point came across clearly enough.

Kaidan and Ashley only showed interest in the opposite sex.

I didn't actually get that.  I always got a bit of a "could be" vibe from Kaidan myself.  And lots of people felt like there was chemistry between Ash and femshep.

When it all comes down to it all of this is all based on you your perception of it just as it is for the others.  Why does your perception have to be canon for everyone, particularly when there is no actual indication either way, just a feeling that the player (you) has.

Modifié par Badpie, 24 février 2012 - 10:47 .

[Ryzaki]

Badpie wrote...

There is waaaay too much discussion about religion and sexual orientation on these boards right now, and I'm sick of these threads hurting peoples' feelings or implying that people have loose moral or religious standards if they're gay or bisexual. It borders on hate speech and the ignorance of it all makes me incredibly sad.

WTF does anyone actually care what happens in someone else's games? GET OVER IT. IT'S A SUB-PLOT.  Mind your own damn game and let's get back to talking about how awesome a character Ashley is - which isn't affected in the least by anything you're discussing here.

I want to kiss you right now.

Just...this. Please this.

As for sexuality. I must've missed the part where my Dude Shep hit on Kaidan and got rejected. I assume there's a similar missed part for Ashley and FemShep.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 24 février 2012 - 10:48 .

[Aurora313]

Ok, just in through the nose and out through the mouth guys. Inhale, Exhale. They are Shepard sexual, and let's leave this conversation at that. Arguing the point, short of bursting in on the Word of God's door, is not going to change anything. If you do not wish the VS to be gay, don't romance them with the same gender's playthrough. If you wish them to be straight, then romance them with the opposite gender.

No one is forcing you into a same-sex romance with the VS. You're really just arguing for the sake of arguing now.

Please. I am asking you politely, enough.

If you wanna argue that point, I believe it should be made into a seperate VS thread. Or discussion group, which I'm fairly certain that a number of them have already been created.

Modifié par Aurora313, 24 février 2012 - 10:49 .

[MegaBadExample]

Badpie wrote...

MegaBadExample wrote...

The dialogue wasn't there in game, but I felt the point came across clearly enough.

Kaidan and Ashley only showed interest in the opposite sex.

I didn't actually get that.  I always got a bit of a "could be" vibe from Kaidan myself.  

In ME1, what dialogue between Kaidan and MaleShepard gave you that vibe?

...Anyway, And now, Ashley's gotta change too? Because they share the same role in ME3? Funny how they made BOTH VS bisexual init.

[mghjr6]

Now I'm not an easily offended person, but this is one of the few threads in this forum I enjoy checking, and I'm getting tired of once every few posts implying that people who go to church every week are all hateful homophobic idiots. I go to church. And (get this) I'm not a judgmental pr*ck. I'll give you some real ammo: I'm Catholic. *dramatic villianous musical interlude* I accept that lots of folks don't like or accept my beliefs, and I don't expect them to live by those rules, and I don't condemn them.

Anyway, the thought that I wanted to post was that Ashley never actually says anything about an actual organized religion, does she? She just says she has faith and believes in God. I know lots of people who believe in God, and even pray, who don't go to church.

I had a thought this morning at work about the whole VS s/s thing. I always wondered why so many people hated Tali and called her squad inclusion in ME2 "fan service." Then I got all offended because they decided to make VS bi. Not because I have anything against homosexuals, but because it wasn't something that fit with their characters, IMO. Then I thought, "Ha! Fan service..." Which was when I realized that that's exactly what it is, just like the Tali thing. Lots of people wanted it, BW listened, and it was included. There's nothing wrong with it. If someone wants their RPG experience to go that way, cool. I want others to enjoy this game, too.

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

Where do you guys see your first date with Ashley being?

[Badpie]

I mean generally speaking all of the romances are just fan service anyway. Everyone seems to forget that not only were Tali and Garrus not express interest in ME1, but Garrus even said in ME2 "okay this is weird, but we can do this because of the trust and bond we have and it will probably work."

Why is that so different for someone like Ashley or Kaidan?

And I dislike people using the "Ash is religious so she can't be gay" argument. That's nonsense. Not only does she never say what her religion is, but to imply that there aren't religious gay people or to imply that all religious people are against being gay is offensive to so many. It bugs me when people have just sort of claimed her as having their own beliefs.

[Aurora313]

I think a picnic would be cute, but I get the feeling that Ash is more into a fireing range.

[Badpie]

Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...

Where do you guys see your first date with Ashley being?

In my head they've kind of gone on one.  In between ME1 and ME2 I figure there had to have been some point where they were docked at a station for at least a few hours.  I always thought maybe they snuck off to some dive bar to have a few beers and actually talk.

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

@Badpie
I don't think that happened

[Eternal Dust]

MegaBadExample wrote...
...Anyway, And now, Ashley's gotta change too? Because they share the same role in ME3? Funny how they made BOTH VS bisexual init.

Ok, this is getting ridiculous. She's not going to change in your game! You are complaining about something that you will probably never see. Good grief, no one knows how the VS is going to be handled yet. Stop being so presumptuous.

[MegaBadExample]

If bioware wanted to make Ashley bisexual (Which was never intended.) they shouldn't have made her into the character she is. The religion, the tradition. It would've been a lot easier to accept that way. I feel as if they're doing her character a diservice. Sorry, but that's the way I see it.

[Badpie]

Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...

@Badpie
I don't think that happened

Don't think what happened?  

Are you talking about our earlier discussion or are you talking about the date I mentioned?

Because if you're talking about the date, you're free to think whatever you want happened in your head canon.  If it hasn't been written by Bioware it's possible and that's why everyone has so many different ideas.

So yeah.  Sorry.  My Shepard and Ashley have had beers.  Sorry if the idea ruins your game...

And Megabad I've tried to be patient with you but you are obviously not reading anyone elses' posts and you jsut keep sayig the same thing over and over.

Ugh.  I have to go.

Modifié par Badpie, 24 février 2012 - 11:05 .

[Mr. Brainheart]

Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...

Where do you guys see your first date with Ashley being?

In my head they never planned an actual date, but they had some lonetime moments on the Citadel, (in my canon they were stuck in a cave at one point), neither of them felt like it was ordinary dating.

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

@Badpie
I was talking about the date. And I was talking about an ME3 date

[Aurora313]

Ok, I'm sorry, but until this 'OMG the VS is GAY' thing stops, I'm bailing out. This is just getting ridiculous... and I don't say that often..

[mghjr6]

MegaBadExample wrote...

If bioware wanted to make Ashley bisexual (Which was never intended.) they shouldn't have made her into the character she is. The religion, the tradition. It would've been a lot easier to accept that way. I feel as if they're doing her character a diservice. Sorry, but that's the way I see it.

Like BadPie said, I don't think that "religious" definatively means straight. ALSO like BadPie said, you don't have to see it in your playthrough, and I probably won't either. Not because I'm against it, just because I'm not interested in that sort of thing.

On the more pleasant topic here... I always figured that the night before Ilos was a one time thing at the time. The were mutaneers during that mission, and afterwards they probably acted professional again. Granted there was probably a more suggestive undertone to things, if I phrased that right.

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

Ashley being bisexual is fine with me but really makes sense

[MegaBadExample]

mghjr6 wrote...

MegaBadExample wrote...

If bioware wanted to make Ashley bisexual (Which was never intended.) they shouldn't have made her into the character she is. The religion, the tradition. It would've been a lot easier to accept that way. I feel as if they're doing her character a diservice. Sorry, but that's the way I see it.

Like BadPie said, I don't think that "religious" definatively means straight. ALSO like BadPie said, you don't have to see it in your playthrough, and I probably won't either. Not because I'm against it, just because I'm not interested in that sort of thing.

On the more pleasant topic here... I always figured that the night before Ilos was a one time thing at the time. The were mutaneers during that mission, and afterwards they probably acted professional again. Granted there was probably a more suggestive undertone to things, if I phrased that right.

I know that. It just would've made it easier, if Ashley wasn't the character she was, and didn't have those foundations.

Don't have to see it in my playthrough? Yeah, but when you look at Ashley's overall character it doesn't do the proper justice IMO.

I also, get the vibe that Bioware did it because hey, it's the VS!
Bioware writer: Oh, but we made these guys exclusively straight in ME1. How are we gonna handle this?
...
Answer: Re-write, -re-write.

[Mr. Brainheart]

MegaBadExample wrote...

If bioware wanted to make Ashley bisexual (Which was never intended.) they shouldn't have made her into the character she is. The religion, the tradition. It would've been a lot easier to accept that way. I feel as if they're doing her character a diservice. Sorry, but that's the way I see it.

And that's fine, no need to apologize for the way you feel about it. But surely we all realise we've said the same things a dozen times over and look! We didn't get an inch further! And this goes for everyone discussing the subject. Everything we had to say has been said, that's usually a good time to move on to a new subject.

[EpicBoot2daFace]

So, Ash is straight and isn't attracted to women, but makes an exception for Shepard... just because?

Modifié par EpicBoot2daFace, 24 février 2012 - 11:15 .