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Lt. Commander Ashley Williams thread: "Don't 'Ash' me!" We're Back Baby!


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Mr. Brainheart

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FireEye wrote...

I heard there was Ashley/Kaidan going on.
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Posted ImageKaidan looks so guilty/suspicious in this pic, what on earth did Ashley make him watch.

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Why?

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The Ending wrote...

But what does it even matter if she swings both ways as long as she's into you?


The risk I see is gender-neutral, copy-paste dialogue in what should be intensely emotional scenes of reconciliation.  I'm looking forward to the capstone of a trilogy spanning roller coaster romance.  Any posibility of watering that down makes me...nervous...Posted Image

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NICKjnp wrote...

My beliefs matter to me. I wouldn't date a bisexual woman who openly seeks relatinships with men and women in real life either.


That's of course your right to do so.

However, as I said before, Kaidan and Ashley are no "full blown bisexuals" like Diana Allers. The VS is attracted to Shepard - and only to Shepard - regardless of gender. You simply don't need to go into a relationship with the VS if s/he has the same sex as your Shepard.

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Mr. Brainheart wrote...

FireEye wrote...

I heard there was Ashley/Kaidan going on.



Kaidan looks so guilty/suspicious in this pic, what on earth did Ashley make him watch.


She never did - that's a Shepard in Kaidan!disguise {smilie}

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I believe the video involves a cup

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iakus wrote...

The Ending wrote...

But what does it even matter if she swings both ways as long as she's into you?


The risk I see is gender-neutral, copy-paste dialogue in what should be intensely emotional scenes of reconciliation.  I'm looking forward to the capstone of a trilogy spanning roller coaster romance.  Any posibility of watering that down makes me...nervous...Posted Image


I share that same concern but the differences in dialogue between ash talking to a dude and a women would be relatively minor when you think about it. I don't think it would be all that watered down

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The Ending wrote...

iakus wrote...

The Ending wrote...

But what does it even matter if she swings both ways as long as she's into you?


The risk I see is gender-neutral, copy-paste dialogue in what should be intensely emotional scenes of reconciliation.  I'm looking forward to the capstone of a trilogy spanning roller coaster romance.  Any posibility of watering that down makes me...nervous...Posted Image


I share that same concern but the differences in dialogue between ash talking to a dude and a women would be relatively minor when you think about it. I don't think it would be all that watered down

Pretty much this.

Ashley loves Shepard. Now which details might be different if Shepard is female?

- they can't have kids on their own. So if that topic comes up, Ash might talk to fem!Shep about adopting.
- gay marriage shouldn't be an issue in 22nd century, so I can see a proposal scene for both Shepards
- the sex scenes might be different
- some minor changes like "he" or "she" if needed

Besides that ... ? No watering down needed because romances work regardless of gender. If there are any difference, then like I said: only minor stuff ... if at all.

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NICKjnp wrote...

In the end of the day...I will know if they are or are not. If one or the other swings both ways and is open to it is the same in both universes.

Your point? You know Wrex can not be talked down on Virmire in some universes, does that ruin your enjoyment of Wrex? No. You know Characters in ME2 can take bakc their loyalty in some universes, does that ruin them for you? no. Why does Ashley being with Kallen in MY Me3 ruin her being with your Male Shep in YOUR ME3? that makes no sense.

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You started this so enjoy:

I started the game and chose Adhley as my main LI because her actions and words showed me she was a religious woman. I enjoyed that about her. It is what interested me the most in the ME universe. I could confirm my beliefs and there is a npc that shares them. For her to come out in "Kallen's" universe means that she would be a bisexual in both. Of she openly sought a lesbian relationship with "Kallen" means she would be open to one in "Nicholas'" universe.
As for Wrex and the loyalty situations in ME2...that is different and you know it...unless you are saying that people choose to be bisexual.

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If someone's sexual preference bothers you that much then don't go with Ashley . I just don't see why it matters. But go with whatever floats your boat

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NICKjnp wrote...

You started this so enjoy:

I started the game and chose Adhley as my main LI because her actions and words showed me she was a religious woman. I enjoyed that about her. It is what interested me the most in the ME universe. I could confirm my beliefs and there is a npc that shares them. For her to come out in "Kallen's" universe means that she would be a bisexual in both. Of she openly sought a lesbian relationship with "Kallen" means she would be open to one in "Nicholas'" universe.
As for Wrex and the loyalty situations in ME2...that is different and you know it...unless you are saying that people choose to be bisexual.


Okay. To get it right: you can't continue the romance with Ashley if she's swinging both ways 'cause of religious reasons?
Think that's something we shouldn't touch. I'm an atheist, so I can't follow your idea but since it's important to you, I can understand your problem.

However, there's, as I said, a way out of that issue: Ashley will be straight if you play a male Shepard. She's not interested in other women.
She only will find female Shepard attractive in ME3 - and might allow something she wouldn't do with any other person.
Also keep in mind religions in 22nd century are far less strict and more open minded (no offense), therefore, even a catholic Ashley might have absolutely no issues with loving a female Shepard.

It's a touchy topic, therefore I won't go into that any further. :police:

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Everyone here is getting the N7 CE right?

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Offense taken...but I'm used to it on the internet.
My original point was to a question someone asked. I simply stated why I stayed loyal through both games but what would cause me to end the relationship in-game.

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The reason both Kaidan and Ashley have the same romance is because, both romances follow the
Three act structure.

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NICKjnp wrote...

Offense taken...but I'm used to it on the internet.
My original point was to a question someone asked. I simply stated why I stayed loyal through both games but what would cause me to end the relationship in-game.


Understood. So who do you think you'll end up going with?

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NICKjnp wrote...

My beliefs matter to me. I wouldn't date a bisexual woman who openly seeks relatinships with men and women in real life either.

Ashley isn't bisexual so I think you're okay.

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Ash and Kaidan are Shepardsexual

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My Shepard will end up alone...

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You're a Jacob fan? No ever talks about him not even Bioware

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NICKjnp wrote...

My Shepard will end up alone...


Thats depressing

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NICKjnp wrote...

My Shepard will end up alone...


Okay, guess the case is closed then ;)
Sorry for you BW made Ash "Shepardsexual" ...

#19748
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There are fans...just not a lot.

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@Nickjnp
Ashley isn't bisexual chill out. She is in love with Shepard regardless of gender I don't agree with it but I'm not letting it bother me

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If you don't mind me asking why do you like him?