Lt. Commander Ashley Williams thread: "Don't 'Ash' me!" We're Back Baby!
#21451
Posté 18 mars 2012 - 06:56
#21452
Posté 18 mars 2012 - 07:10
Totally Not Swaggacide wrote...
Yes Ashley is the best
Agreed.
#21453
Posté 18 mars 2012 - 07:14
Oh I've been faithful to Ashley since day one back in 2007. I'm just going to replay the whole series again because I want to see her from the beginning again.Complistic wrote...
Nighthawk1117 wrote...
I think I'm going to play ME1 over spring break, to see the romance from the beginning.
Liara might have more face time because she's bioware's golden (err blue?) girl, but there's just no beating the ups and downs, problems and resolutions you'll find playing all 3 games with ashley as your LI.
The lows absolutely suck, but they make the good parts so much better.
Modifié par Nighthawk1117, 18 mars 2012 - 07:14 .
#21454
Posté 18 mars 2012 - 07:30
FeralEwok wrote...
Quick question for you guys and gals.
Does Ashley have much more to say on the Normandy or just in general if you romanced her?
When I finally got her back as a squadmate I found the amount of conversations to be lacking compared to the rest of the crew.
I don't know how it is when she is not romanced, but even if you're romancing her she hasn't that much to say, besides her love talks. Sadly just Zaeed-Style conversations without really acknowledging the romance itself.
Somehow she is completly missing the interaction with the other crewmembers. Maybe I just overlooked something but I can't remember seeing her anywhere else on the ship.
But nonetheless... I just noticed again that I, once again, have fixated myself on a LI (damn you Viconia & Morrigan *shakes fist*). Just started a new game with my Liaramancer char, saw Ash and immediately started a NG+ with my canon, ashmancing Shep.
Modifié par TobiTobsen, 18 mars 2012 - 07:33 .
#21455
Posté 18 mars 2012 - 07:35
PMC65 wrote...
ADLegend21 wrote...
^so jealous.
I was dorky ... I saluted her and said "Chief" ... she answered, "ma'am".
Then after some goof told her that he wanted Ash to apologize for Horizon I told her that my Shepard didn't want an apology ... he just wanted Ash back. She smiled and said, "and your Shepard will have her back."
Dorky I know. But can I say that I melted with the "ma'am"!
Edit: Spelling
Now I'm jealous ... :innocent:
Pretty much the same for me: I wanted Ash back. Just her.
Ashley: Hey Skip. Need to tell you something ...
Shepard: Yes, Ash?
Ashley: I'm sorry. ... sorry for the divide Horizon forced between us-
Shepard: No need to apologize, Ash. I've got you back ... we're together again, that's all I wanted the last year since I came back. I just wanted to be with you.
Ashley: Skipper ... I felt I had to tell you-
Shepard: You don't have to. I accepted your response a long time ago. No need to stay in the past, we have a future to build, our future.
Ashley: With own house, family, children?
Shepard: With everything and more.
Ashley: Just come back, Skip. Don't die a second time.
Shepard: Promise. There can't be a future without you and me.
Ashley: Yup. Now get out and kick the Reapers where it hurts.
Shepard: Not without my best weapon - that's you, Ashley.
Ashley: Always right behind you with my Widow, Sir!
#21456
Posté 18 mars 2012 - 07:36
No, there's no real difference unfortunately. Just Zaeed-style conversations. I only know this because I'm playing with a complete d-bag renegade Shep that emphasizes the mission comes first and saved Ash on Virmire. No romance for him in any ME game.FeralEwok wrote...
Quick question for you guys and gals.
Does Ashley have much more to say on the Normandy or just in general if you romanced her?
When I finally got her back as a squadmate I found the amount of conversations to be lacking compared to the rest of the crew.
#21457
Posté 18 mars 2012 - 07:37
BrotherArdis wrote...
That's what basically happened to me.
Pretty much this.
Must say, Liara was - very tempting - in ME3. Actually, she made it up to my fave characters in ME3. She's still not my type, but definitely one of the characters I never want to kill or see dying.
Modifié par CptData, 18 mars 2012 - 07:45 .
#21458
Posté 18 mars 2012 - 07:46
#21459
Posté 18 mars 2012 - 07:52
Mr. Brainheart wrote...
Liara's turn on my second playthrough, appropriate since she's my second favorite li. She more my type to be honest, but, I guess Ashley might be my ''dream'' type. That and the almost real life depth to Ashleys character. (although Liara has gotten more depth in ME3, I feel.
Think Liara is not my type 'cause I never was into women with non-natural brows and too-cute noses
Her blue eyes are beautiful however.
The one reason why I like Liara much more in ME3 is her greatly developed character. Same for Garrus by the way and Traynor is an incredible surprising new addition. She's really useful now and comes with a fascinating character.
Ashley is -very- tempting. Dream type? Darn yes. Real type? Yep. But I doubt I have the guts to ask such woman for a date - and even if I could, there's no chance for a live relationship. However, Ashley symbolizes pretty much everything I value in a "perfect woman": strong, willpowered, straight forward, educated, loving, family orientated, beautiful - a lot of good traits. Some flaws too, but nothing really damaging.
So Ash pretty much meets my dream type optically and characterly ...
And her voice ...
#21460
Posté 18 mars 2012 - 07:56
#21461
Posté 18 mars 2012 - 08:00
Mr. Brainheart wrote...
Liara's turn on my second playthrough, appropriate since she's my second favorite li. She more my type to be honest, but, I guess Ashley might be my ''dream'' type. That and the almost real life depth to Ashleys character. (although Liara has gotten more depth in ME3, I feel.
Liara is my fav but that is partly because FemShep is my canon. Had Ashley been open to her then she might have taken first place ... oh, well. Really it doesn't matter since I can't play either Shepards after that awful "non-ending". I used my "first run" Shepard and what an empty awful feeling the game left.
So now neither my canon (EW) or second fav (PV) will see daylight if the ending stands as is. Even with Kimberly Brooks' promise PV will live forever in ME2 alone.
@CptData ... I was dorky but it was sooooooo worth it!
EDIT: Spelling
Modifié par PMC65, 18 mars 2012 - 08:01 .
#21462
Posté 18 mars 2012 - 08:21
But this is mostly ME1 Ash, Ash has matured somewhat since then, some of her views seem to have changed a little, so I need to reasses.
@PMC; I think anyone of us would've been ''dorky'' in that situation, Lol, and really, who cares? Ans it sounds like she replied in a similar manner, which is great! ...Haha, I'm jealous.
#21463
Posté 18 mars 2012 - 08:46
#21464
Posté 18 mars 2012 - 09:09
#21465
Posté 18 mars 2012 - 09:09
Word.CptData wrote...
Mr. Brainheart wrote...
Liara's turn on my second playthrough, appropriate since she's my second favorite li. She more my type to be honest, but, I guess Ashley might be my ''dream'' type. That and the almost real life depth to Ashleys character. (although Liara has gotten more depth in ME3, I feel.
Think Liara is not my type 'cause I never was into women with non-natural brows and too-cute noses
Her blue eyes are beautiful however.
The one reason why I like Liara much more in ME3 is her greatly developed character. Same for Garrus by the way and Traynor is an incredible surprising new addition. She's really useful now and comes with a fascinating character.Allers on the other hand is really meh ...
Ashley is -very- tempting. Dream type? Darn yes. Real type? Yep. But I doubt I have the guts to ask such woman for a date - and even if I could, there's no chance for a live relationship. However, Ashley symbolizes pretty much everything I value in a "perfect woman": strong, willpowered, straight forward, educated, loving, family orientated, beautiful - a lot of good traits. Some flaws too, but nothing really damaging.
So Ash pretty much meets my dream type optically and characterly ...:wub:
And her voice ...
#21466
Posté 18 mars 2012 - 09:11
This.dahellraider wrote...
a good place to have an ash conversation would be in the specter shooting range...seance she is a specter of-course and how soldiery she is could of fit in real good.
The spectre status should have a bigger part
#21467
Posté 18 mars 2012 - 09:22
dahellraider wrote...
a good place to have an ash conversation would be in the specter shooting range...seance she is a specter of-course and how soldiery she is could of fit in real good.
this
#21468
Posté 18 mars 2012 - 09:27
Grimez7 wrote...
dahellraider wrote...
a good place to have an ash conversation would be in the specter shooting range...seance she is a specter of-course and how soldiery she is could of fit in real good.
this
currently working on a one shot story for if this scene would happen maybe ill finish it tonights.
#21469
Posté 18 mars 2012 - 10:12
Not sure if I was keen on the idea in all honesty, Ashley was my LI and in the end I supported her decision, but Shepard being the first and only human spectre was always something I thought was pretty epic.
Still, I was anticipating Ashley being formally inducted, like Shepard was in the first one, but alas, that never occurred.
#21470
Posté 18 mars 2012 - 10:26
Vigil_N7 wrote...
So... did Ashley ever become a spectre? Or did that all go to hell after Udina betrayed the council?
Not sure if I was keen on the idea in all honesty, Ashley was my LI and in the end I supported her decision, but Shepard being the first and only human spectre was always something I thought was pretty epic.
Still, I was anticipating Ashley being formally inducted, like Shepard was in the first one, but alas, that never occurred.
Hmm, I support Spectre Williams ... sure, "first human Spectre" is pretty epic, but it's even more epic if the "first human Spectre" is in love with the "second human Spectre" - as battle couple, they're pretty much unstoppable ...
#21471
Posté 18 mars 2012 - 10:33
Imagine the stories their kids will hear...CptData wrote...
Vigil_N7 wrote...
So... did Ashley ever become a spectre? Or did that all go to hell after Udina betrayed the council?
Not sure if I was keen on the idea in all honesty, Ashley was my LI and in the end I supported her decision, but Shepard being the first and only human spectre was always something I thought was pretty epic.
Still, I was anticipating Ashley being formally inducted, like Shepard was in the first one, but alas, that never occurred.
Hmm, I support Spectre Williams ... sure, "first human Spectre" is pretty epic, but it's even more epic if the "first human Spectre" is in love with the "second human Spectre" - as battle couple, they're pretty much unstoppable ...
#21472
Posté 18 mars 2012 - 10:48
+1Grimez7 wrote...
dahellraider wrote...
a good place to have an ash conversation would be in the specter shooting range...seance she is a specter of-course and how soldiery she is could of fit in real good.
this
Nighthawk1117 wrote...
Imagine the stories their kids will hear...CptData wrote...
Vigil_N7 wrote...
So... did Ashley ever become a spectre? Or did that all go to hell after Udina betrayed the council?
Not
sure if I was keen on the idea in all honesty, Ashley was my LI and in
the end I supported her decision, but Shepard being the first and only
human spectre was always something I thought was pretty epic.
Still,
I was anticipating Ashley being formally inducted, like Shepard was in
the first one, but alas, that never occurred.
Hmm, I
support Spectre Williams ... sure, "first human Spectre" is pretty epic,
but it's even more epic if the "first human Spectre" is in love with
the "second human Spectre" - as battle couple, they're pretty much
unstoppable ... [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/lol.png[/smilie]
I think it could Rival the Asari/Korgan wars couple of that one metriarc.
#21473
Posté 18 mars 2012 - 10:49
#21474
Posté 18 mars 2012 - 10:58
BrotherArdis wrote...
That's what basically happened to me.
I wanted to romance her from day 1.
There never was someone else.
In ME1 my femShep romanced her.
But overally, my femShep is FOREVER ALONE because of BioWare not making her s/s option like Kaidan...
#21475
Posté 19 mars 2012 - 01:38
Sometimes I wonder if the dislike comes down to it being a gender thing. Liara and Tali? Both strong, but also people who are going to ultimately agree with whatever you say. People love them. Ashley, Jack, and Miranda? Also strong, but to the point where they're going to call you on your potential bull****. People aren't necessarily fond of them in the same way. Wrex? He'll be outright nasty to you in ME1, and all the krogan take a more intense stance against other species than Ashley ever does, but people still love the guy. Makes one wonder if it's simply because he has, er, a quad.
The space racist accusation is stupid. She's so racist that she doesn't even want to associate with you once you get on the Cerberus payroll. Can't please her detractors. She's a "racist" in the first game, but when she calls you out in the second game for working with the actual evil racists, then she's annoying for not obeying everything you say.
Would have romanced her if the same-sex option had been left in for ME1. Shame it wasn't. I remained single. Liara just wasn't my type.
Apart from the drunk scene, which was gold, I'm not sure if I liked how she was in ME3. Kind of a shadow of her former self, and all the best lines were reserved for love-interest stuff. Feels like Garrus absorbed all her sarcastic energy in ME2 and ME3. Had some zingers in ME1, but never as much as he did in latter games. Ash felt pretty dry and more down-to-business in ME3. Her lack of full dialogue didn't help.
I wish they had kept Ash/Kaidan around for the entire series. Seems arbitrary to drop then and add them back in. Now they just feel like outsiders, even amongst the ME1 crew members.
Modifié par LenabotSE, 19 mars 2012 - 01:39 .





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