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Lt. Commander Ashley Williams thread: "Don't 'Ash' me!" We're Back Baby!


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Midnight Reyn wrote...

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What does everyone think of the possibility that not only is James Vega the James in Ash's email, but that they also have or have had a relationship in the time that Shepard was gone?

One one hand I think it would add an interesting dimension to the relationship of Ash and Shepard and Shepard and Vega.

On the other hand, I can't decide if that would be kind of a hack writing move.

DISCUSS. :D


I could go either way on this as I agree with both your points. It would be interesting, but it also has the potential to become soap opera drama and in the final game of a series I could really do without that.

If Vega were the James mentioned and he and Ash had had a relationship post the Normandy's demise, I'd much prefer they weren't still together when they are both on the squad with Shepard. A prior relationship between the two I'd be OK with, but a current relationship? No thanks. I could do without that drama as well.

Having lost so much Shepley content in the second game because of Ash's sidelining and lack of presence in that, I want the third game to be about Shepard and Ashley's relationship, not Shepard and Ashley and some other dude's relationship.

So a prior relationship between them? All well and good. But not a current one. I don't want that.


You say it so much better than I do.  MIND SYNC.  Image IPB

Yeah I'm okay with a passing "We had something for awhile but it ended awhile back."  Or even a little bit of tension between James and Shepard.  But I don't want Ash to be IN a commited relationship with someone and have Shep STEAL her back. That's about as classy as the catfight.

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Badpie wrote...

So I've been thinking about this:

There are some who seem to think James Vega is the "James" referenced in Ash's email to her sister (on the wiki). Now I don't really think that. I think it's just the same name. I could be wrong, but who knows.

What does everyone think of the possibility that not only is James Vega the James in Ash's email, but that they also have or have had a relationship in the time that Shepard was gone?

One one hand I think it would add an interesting dimension to the relationship of Ash and Shepard and Shepard and Vega.

On the other hand, I can't decide if that would be kind of a hack writing move.

DISCUSS. :D


Ash did say that she had dealt with Shepherd's death and moved on.  I'm wondering if she wasn't in a relationship (of sorts) with someone at the time of Horizon.  Then I'm thinking maybe she broke it off after discovering Shepherd is alive or upon being recruited as a Spectre.  It very well could be this James Vega.

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I don't want a confrontation between Ashley and James and Shepard.

I agree with Badpie on this:

Badpie wrote...
I wouldn't picture her starting a relationship after Horizon. Mainly because I don't think she'd be in a very good place emotionally for it.


And with Midnight on this:

Midnight Reyn wrote...
Having lost so much Shepley content in the second game because of Ash's sidelining and lack of presence in that, I want the third game to be about Shepard and Ashley's relationship, not Shepard and Ashley and some other dude's relationship.

So a prior relationship between them? All well and good. But not a current one. I don't want that.


Modifié par Brodyaha, 14 juin 2011 - 04:41 .


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After thinking about it, why would such a complication be written into the story for Ash and not Kaiden as well? Is there a Jane Vega for Kaiden?

So after further thought, I think James Vega is James Vega - dude on the squad. If he has been romatic with Ashley it was long ago and nothing other than a mention of past history (like Jacob and Miranda) will happen. No confrontations, no complications. Unless you cheated on Ash. Hell hath no fury.....

Just my thoughts.

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Midnight Reyn wrote...
Having lost so much Shepley content in the second game because of Ash's sidelining and lack of presence in that, I want the third game to be about Shepard and Ashley's relationship, not Shepard and Ashley and some other dude's relationship.

Oh so much of this. I know they might stick us with a mentioningof Horizon, but I want the rest to just be pure unadulterated Sheply goodness if she's alreday romanced and smoething ute if she's a new romance to the point where whatever reservason Shepard had are gone.Image IPB

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If I had my druthers the opening of Mass Effect 3 would be this:

ESCAPE EARTH.

Shepard: Hey Ash....so uh....Wanna....*eyebrow waggle*
Ash: Shepard! EARTH IS BEING DESTROYED.
Shepard: Pfft. They'll be fiiiiiine. Hey, let's open up this bottle of champagne.
Ash: ...Where did you get-
Shepard: (puts his fingers on her lips) Shhhhhhhhh......

Hehehe.

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He stole it from Chakwas, she will not be pleased.

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Badpie wrote...

If I had my druthers the opening of Mass Effect 3 would be this:

ESCAPE EARTH.

Shepard: Hey Ash....so uh....Wanna....*eyebrow waggle*
Ash: Shepard! EARTH IS BEING DESTROYED.
Shepard: Pfft. They'll be fiiiiiine. Hey, let's open up this bottle of champagne.
Ash: ...Where did you get-
Shepard: (puts his fingers on her lips) Shhhhhhhhh......

Hehehe.

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It's hard to surmise that James Vega is the same James Ash mentioned in her email. For all we know, she was simply admiring the physical attributes of a member on her squad.

Kaidan's past relationship that was hinted at was Rahna. But that was when he was 17, and that's water under the bridge.

I'd say if you cheated, then that could be a ramification of doing so. But for my faithful Sheps, I don't want that drama. I want to pick up the pieces of the relationship.

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But for my faithful Sheps, I don't want that drama. I want to pick up the pieces of the relationship.


Ditto.  And I would prefer this happen sooner rather than later in the game.  I'd love to go through the game in an established relationship instead of the cookie cutter boring build build build ROMANTIC CUT SCENE BEFORE END OF GAME.

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Badpie wrote...

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But for my faithful Sheps, I don't want that drama. I want to pick up the pieces of the relationship.


Ditto.  And I would prefer this happen sooner rather than later in the game.  I'd love to go through the game in an established relationship instead of the cookie cutter boring build build build ROMANTIC CUT SCENE BEFORE END OF GAME.

this this this this this. It's a pain! expecially when the characters would run out of dialogue or it wouldn't be availableImage IPB

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Yes, faithful Shepard should be rewarded. We've already done the build up in ME1; in ME3 we should move on to the catch up, getting back together, talk of the future and meeting the Williams' family :D

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Badpie wrote...

So I've been thinking about this:

There are some who seem to think James Vega is the "James" referenced in Ash's email to her sister (on the wiki). Now I don't really think that. I think it's just the same name. I could be wrong, but who knows.

What does everyone think of the possibility that not only is James Vega the James in Ash's email, but that they also have or have had a relationship in the time that Shepard was gone?

DISCUSS. :D


I don't think there's all that much of one, frankly.

If Ashley had mentioned knowing a dude named Hieronymus Alabaster Raghdranunath Fitzhugh, and we then found out that we would have a character named Hieronymus in the party, then maybe. But James? Nah. 

Also it was agreed among the Williamses that said James was cute, and  Vega looks kinda derpy so far. 

If it does end up being the same James, then my reaction would depend on how it were handled. We did after all bat around the possibility of somethings similar with Jacob while we were waiting for ME2's release and after we heard he'd been stationed on Eden Prime, and as I recall it was agreed that it could be kinda cool. However, that was a different beast, since it was contingent on a hypothetical preexisting relationship that was over and done with rather than one that would be ongoing, meaning that it would manifest as maybe some salacious ex-talk, verbal sparring and perhaps some light tension, rather than any full-fledged love triangle.

I'm inclined to say that a love triangle would be tacky, if not quite as tacky as the ones certain Shepards create themselves. 

We know Ashley hadn't moved on as of Horizon, so having actually run into Shepard, and probably having heard about some of Shepard's escapades through whatever channels she has developed, I'd say that she probably wouldn't have gotten any more comfortable with it in the interem. It might be interesting if we didn't have that precedent, but we do, so I'd be forced to think of it as OOC if she has hooked up with James in between sending Shep that love letter and the beginning of ME3. 

For cheating Shepards it might be completely appropriate if Ashley found someone else, there's tremendous potential for cheap melodrama inherent in such an arrangement. 

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Hieronymus Alabaster Raghdranunath Fitzhugh for squadmate!!!

<3

And I agree I don't see Ash hooking up with someone in between Horizon and ME3.  No way.  Before that, when she had finally accepted Shepard was gone - maybe. 

Modifié par Badpie, 14 juin 2011 - 06:00 .


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While I don't think the James mentioned by Ash is James Vega, I wouldn't be too upset if we found out Ash had been in a relationship after Shepard's "death". Shepard had plenty of opportunities to move on himself, there's no reason Ash shouldn't be in the same position. As ADL said, Ash is a catch.

But I'd be pretty annoyed if she was still in a relationship as of ME3, especially if you haven't cheated on her. If you have, and that's your punishment, then so be it. But if you've remained loyal, then it'd be adding drama for the sake of adding drama. I'm not a fan of angst, I don't want anybody to be fighting over love interests, they're trying to save the galaxy, not trying to find a date for the junior prom.

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Not changing the subject, what planet was Ash's family (sisters/mom) living on?

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Andy@ I dont think we have to worry about that ;) Bioware promised that those who stay faithfull will be rewarded.

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I support hetero Ash! and no derailment of her sexual preferences



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haynoats wrote...

Not changing the subject, what planet was Ash's family (sisters/mom) living on?

I believe they live on Ametarasu. I read it on the wiki when I looked her up recently.Image IPB

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Ash is worth it.

I'm going to enjoy referring to her as "El Tee" like she did with Kaidan.

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Ash is worth it.

I'm going to enjoy referring to her as "El Tee" like she did with Kaidan.

I know my sheps will be so proud of her for becoming a comissioned officer, and they'll probably celebrate, big time.Image IPB

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whoa! Two Ash threads now, I am already confused as it is...

what? not even 10 pages and we already had a failed flaming attempt...
Ash won't have that!

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Badpie wrote...

So I've been thinking about this:

There are some who seem to think James Vega is the "James" referenced in Ash's email to her sister (on the wiki). Now I don't really think that. I think it's just the same name. I could be wrong, but who knows.

What does everyone think of the possibility that not only is James Vega the James in Ash's email, but that they also have or have had a relationship in the time that Shepard was gone?

One one hand I think it would add an interesting dimension to the relationship of Ash and Shepard and Shepard and Vega.

On the other hand, I can't decide if that would be kind of a hack writing move.

DISCUSS. :D


I really don't think that Vega is the same James in the email, but for speculation sake let's just assume that he is for a moment...  We've been told that there will be major consequences for cheating on any LI in ME2 so if a romanced Ashley gets "cheated on" in ME2 maybe Vega is that consequence?  How much would it suck to have a scene where Shep comes clean with Ashley (if he "cheated"), she doesn't take it well and pursues a relationship with Vega... right in front of Shep on his own ship...  THATWOULDSUCKSOBAD!!!  

I do hope that this is not the case, but I am looking forward to finding out more about him and what he's all about.

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ADLegend21 wrote...

jamesp81 wrote...

Ash is worth it.

I'm going to enjoy referring to her as "El Tee" like she did with Kaidan.

I know my sheps will be so proud of her for becoming a comissioned officer, and they'll probably celebrate, big time.Image IPB


My Shepard is going to be jealous.

Ash gets two promotions and becomes a spectre. While my Shepard only becomes a spectreImage IPB

But if Ash recites the same poem at Ilos Image IPBImage IPBImage IPB

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I support hero Ash! And Ash love for all!


fix'd

Modifié par elektrego, 14 juin 2011 - 07:04 .