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Clone 071 wrote...

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Quick question that might have been answered in the past 925 pages: does anyone know what's with the bird sigil on Ashley's armor?

Not quite sure if it's confirmed, but if I recall correctly, it's supposed to symbolize the Phoenix.


Ah, thank you. Makes sense and it's a nice touch if true. 

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Not if those LI's names were Tali, Garrus, or Liara. Garrus and Liara are on the ship for almost the entire game.

I actually believe Tali's and Garrus's romances in ME3 are worse than Ash's, and I like Tali and Garrus at that.

But they still have plenty of dialogues in game.. Even Tali and she can join to us really late.

Friendwise, yes, you're absolutely right, but I call Ash up first between the 3 when it comes to the romance arc. I don't recall Tali getting a lot of dialogue convos like Garrus and Liara do, but at least she squad banter throughout the ship.

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Maglor07 wrote...

Clone 071 wrote...

Maglor07 wrote...

Quick question that might have been answered in the past 925 pages: does anyone know what's with the bird sigil on Ashley's armor?

Not quite sure if it's confirmed, but if I recall correctly, it's supposed to symbolize the Phoenix.


Ah, thank you. Makes sense and it's a nice touch if true. 


I miss the Spectre logo that Ash had on her beta outfit.

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ADLegend21 wrote...

Not if those LI's names were Tali, Garrus, or Liara. Garrus and Liara are on the ship for almost the entire game.

I actually believe Tali's and Garrus's romances in ME3 are worse than Ash's, and I like Tali and Garrus at that.


Garrus' romance works if you consider all the bro-scenes as part of the romance arc.
Liara's romance feels so complete since you have plenty of romantic and non-romantic fluff to watch and enjoy.

Yeah, true. Damnit Garrus, why'd you have to be such a bro throughout the series that I used you instead of Ash or Shepard as my XBL avatar? :P
Liara's romance was never in question. We all know it got the most attention.

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Obvakhi wrote...

Maglor07 wrote...

Clone 071 wrote...

Maglor07 wrote...

Quick question that might have been answered in the past 925 pages: does anyone know what's with the bird sigil on Ashley's armor?

Not quite sure if it's confirmed, but if I recall correctly, it's supposed to symbolize the Phoenix.


Ah, thank you. Makes sense and it's a nice touch if true. 


I miss the Spectre logo that Ash had on her beta outfit.

*snip*

I think she has the Spectre logo after the coup.

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Clone 071 wrote...

Ashii6 wrote...

Clone 071 wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

Not if those LI's names were Tali, Garrus, or Liara. Garrus and Liara are on the ship for almost the entire game.

I actually believe Tali's and Garrus's romances in ME3 are worse than Ash's, and I like Tali and Garrus at that.

But they still have plenty of dialogues in game.. Even Tali and she can join to us really late.

Friendwise, yes, you're absolutely right, but I call Ash up first between the 3 when it comes to the romance arc. I don't recall Tali getting a lot of dialogue convos like Garrus and Liara do, but at least she squad banter throughout the ship.


I actually felt like Bioware was doing everything they could to make me chose Liara.  Why was she even an option when I didn't romance her in the first game?  The LI stuff is taken out of ths Shadow Broker DLC in 2 if you don't romance her in 1.

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Ashii6 wrote...

Obvakhi wrote...

Maglor07 wrote...

Clone 071 wrote...

Maglor07 wrote...

Quick question that might have been answered in the past 925 pages: does anyone know what's with the bird sigil on Ashley's armor?

Not quite sure if it's confirmed, but if I recall correctly, it's supposed to symbolize the Phoenix.


Ah, thank you. Makes sense and it's a nice touch if true. 


I miss the Spectre logo that Ash had on her beta outfit.

*snip*

I think she has the Spectre logo after the coup.


She doesn't actually.
What they should of done was keep the way her uniform looks now(all blue) in the beginning and then change it to the beta pattern when she becomes a Spectre, so it'll make more sense.

Modifié par Obvakhi, 27 mars 2012 - 07:33 .


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Obvakhi wrote...

Maglor07 wrote...

Clone 071 wrote...

Maglor07 wrote...

Quick question that might have been answered in the past 925 pages: does anyone know what's with the bird sigil on Ashley's armor?

Not quite sure if it's confirmed, but if I recall correctly, it's supposed to symbolize the Phoenix.


Ah, thank you. Makes sense and it's a nice touch if true. 


I miss the Spectre logo that Ash had on her beta outfit.

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Indeed, then again she was made a Spectre after she was landed in the hospital, so it seems appropriate to take it off. Can't say I missed her facial features or the white portion of her outfit.

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dbollendorf wrote...

Clone 071 wrote...

Ashii6 wrote...

Clone 071 wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

Not if those LI's names were Tali, Garrus, or Liara. Garrus and Liara are on the ship for almost the entire game.

I actually believe Tali's and Garrus's romances in ME3 are worse than Ash's, and I like Tali and Garrus at that.

But they still have plenty of dialogues in game.. Even Tali and she can join to us really late.

Friendwise, yes, you're absolutely right, but I call Ash up first between the 3 when it comes to the romance arc. I don't recall Tali getting a lot of dialogue convos like Garrus and Liara do, but at least she squad banter throughout the ship.


I actually felt like Bioware was doing everything they could to make me chose Liara.  Why was she even an option when I didn't romance her in the first game?  The LI stuff is taken out of ths Shadow Broker DLC in 2 if you don't romance her in 1.

Sometimes I felt that way, too. I still regret that they didn't create VS DLC for ME2. Well... I wouldn't be angry if they would create VS DLC for ME3.. :P

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I actually felt like Bioware was doing everything they could to make me chose Liara.  Why was she even an option when I didn't romance her in the first game?  The LI stuff is taken out of ths Shadow Broker DLC in 2 if you don't romance her in 1.

Yeah, and then there's the fact you can even cheat on Ash with Liara in ME3 even if you encounterd the love triangle scene in ME1 and flat out rejected Liara in front of Ash. You can't do that with any other ME2 LI, but you can do it with Liara? That's just pure favoritism there.

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Obvakhi wrote...

Ashii6 wrote...

Obvakhi wrote...

Maglor07 wrote...

Clone 071 wrote...

Maglor07 wrote...

Quick question that might have been answered in the past 925 pages: does anyone know what's with the bird sigil on Ashley's armor?

Not quite sure if it's confirmed, but if I recall correctly, it's supposed to symbolize the Phoenix.


Ah, thank you. Makes sense and it's a nice touch if true. 


I miss the Spectre logo that Ash had on her beta outfit.

*snip*

I think she has the Spectre logo after the coup.


She doesn't actually.
What they should of done was keep the way her uniform looks now(all blue) in the beginning and then change it to the beta pattern when she becomes a Spectre, so it'll make more sense.

Sorry then. I thought I've seen this logo after the coup.

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If they ever make that Mass Effect movie, I'd be shocked if she wasn't Ash.^_^ 

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Indeed, then again she was made a Spectre after she was landed in the hospital, so it seems appropriate to take it off. Can't say I missed her facial features or the white portion of her outfit.


Yeah,  I think I remember reading she was made a Spectre before the attack on Earth. Could it be that I misunderstood smth or they changed it before release?

And yeah, that white part looks like she has stockings over her uniform.

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Clone 071 wrote...

dbollendorf wrote...

I actually felt like Bioware was doing everything they could to make me chose Liara.  Why was she even an option when I didn't romance her in the first game?  The LI stuff is taken out of ths Shadow Broker DLC in 2 if you don't romance her in 1.

Yeah, and then there's the fact you can even cheat on Ash with Liara in ME3 even if you encounterd the love triangle scene in ME1 and flat out rejected Liara in front of Ash. You can't do that with any other ME2 LI, but you can do it with Liara? That's just pure favoritism there.


I went back and did a fresh play through of 1 and 2, romancing Ashley in the first and staying loyal in the second, because she was the one I romanced the first time I played Mass Effect.  Then I get into 3 and I find people that never join your crew that have more and better dialog the Ashley, WTF.  Between that and the ending Bioware has turned me off gaming in general.

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If they ever make that Mass Effect movie, I'd be shocked if she wasn't Ash.^_^ 

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Yeah, especially since Erica Cerra knows how to hold a gun like Ash does.
On that note, if the do make the movie based on Shepard, I won't be seeing it in theatres unless I hear outstanding reviews on it. If that doesn't happen, I'll see it when it's free.

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Maglor07 wrote...

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Indeed, then again she was made a Spectre after she was landed in the hospital, so it seems appropriate to take it off. Can't say I missed her facial features or the white portion of her outfit.


Yeah,  I think I remember reading she was made a Spectre before the attack on Earth. Could it be that I misunderstood smth or they changed it before release?

And yeah, that white part looks like she has stockings over her uniform.

In the beta script, yes, that was the case where she was a Spectre by the time ME3 rolled around. Also at the time, she was supposed to be only a Lieutenant instead of a Lieutenant Commander. But BioWare changed that and instead had Udina offer her the Spectre position while in the hospital.

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shar42 wrote...

If they ever make that Mass Effect movie, I'd be shocked if she wasn't Ash.^_^ 

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Okay. I approve her, but only if I can be Commander Shepard.
I even could shave my hair!

Kissing movie!Ash is almost like kissing real!ME!Ash ... :lol:

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Then I get into 3 and I find people that never join your crew that have more and better dialog the Ashley, WTF.

Who specifically?

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CptData wrote...

shar42 wrote...

If they ever make that Mass Effect movie, I'd be shocked if she wasn't Ash.^_^ 

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Okay. I approve her, but only if I can be Commander Shepard.
I even could shave my hair!

Kissing movie!Ash is almost like kissing real!ME!Ash ... :lol:

Get in line, Data. :P

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Clone 071 wrote...

Maglor07 wrote...

Clone 071 wrote...



Indeed, then again she was made a Spectre after she was landed in the hospital, so it seems appropriate to take it off. Can't say I missed her facial features or the white portion of her outfit.


Yeah,  I think I remember reading she was made a Spectre before the attack on Earth. Could it be that I misunderstood smth or they changed it before release?

And yeah, that white part looks like she has stockings over her uniform.

In the beta script, yes, that was the case where she was a Spectre by the time ME3 rolled around. Also at the time, she was supposed to be only a Lieutenant instead of a Lieutenant Commander. But BioWare changed that and instead had Udina offer her the Spectre position while in the hospital.


Yeah, I thought I got it right. I even introduced her as a minor NPC in a ME RPG I'm DMing as a lieutenant and a Spectre based on that beta info.

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Get in line, Data. :P


I've the perfect age (30) for playing Shepard.
And if I get really into exercising, I might be able to trim down a lot.

*picks a number: No 13*

;)

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Clone 071 wrote...

dbollendorf wrote...

Then I get into 3 and I find people that never join your crew that have more and better dialog the Ashley, WTF.

Who specifically?


Jack didn't have more dialog but to me the growth it showed in her made it some of my favorite moments in the game and to me it felt like Wrex had way more dialog then Ashley.  Wrex having a lot of dialog is not a bad thing, I just wanted more with Ashley.

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CptData wrote...

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Get in line, Data. :P


I've the perfect age (30) for playing Shepard.
And if I get really into exercising, I might be able to trim down a lot.

*picks a number: No 13*

;)

Yeah, I won't deny you have me beat on age. I think I have the in shape part covered though.

This is why I also approve of Erica Cerra as Ash in the movie:
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dbollendorf wrote...

Clone 071 wrote...

dbollendorf wrote... 
Then I get into 3 and I find people that never join your crew that have more and better dialog the Ashley, WTF.

Who specifically?


Jack didn't have more dialog but to me the growth it showed in her made it some of my favorite moments in the game and to me it felt like Wrex had way more dialog then Ashley.  Wrex having a lot of dialog is not a bad thing, I just wanted more with Ashley.

Yeah, I don't blame you there. Jack had tremendous improvement to her character and personality since ME2. Wrex on the other hand was popular from the jump in ME1, even had his moments in ME2, and came back as an even bigger badass in ME3. It's popularity with certain characters. Not much else to it.

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Clone 071 wrote...

dbollendorf wrote...

Clone 071 wrote...

dbollendorf wrote... 
Then I get into 3 and I find people that never join your crew that have more and better dialog the Ashley, WTF.

Who specifically?


Jack didn't have more dialog but to me the growth it showed in her made it some of my favorite moments in the game and to me it felt like Wrex had way more dialog then Ashley.  Wrex having a lot of dialog is not a bad thing, I just wanted more with Ashley.

Yeah, I don't blame you there. Jack had tremendous improvement to her character and personality since ME2. Wrex on the other hand was popular from the jump in ME1, even had his moments in ME2, and came back as an even bigger badass in ME3. It's popularity with certain characters. Not much else to it.


I know that, and that pisses me off even more.