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EDIT: Top. One hundred and one pages of Tali!

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I always equip Tali with the Geth Plasma Shotgun. I suppose it's kind of ironic.

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In the midst of a firefight against geth on Rannoch...

Shepard: "Tali, you do realize how ironic using that thing is?"
Tali: "What? Just showing them how to use it, the stupid bosh'tets."
Shepard: "There aren't geth processes in their weapons are there?"
*Tali drops the shotgun as if it's suddenly possessed.*
Shepard: "I guess that answers that question..."

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I think of it as a battle trophy. Same when Jacob uses it.

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I think Tali is practical enough to recognize a useful tool when she sees one, Geth weapon or not. She might even take a liking to downing Geth with their own weapons : )


As for the picture at the top...I think you would need to find a much larger breed of varren than what appears in-game for that to be possible. Still very cute nonetheless.

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lol, well I'm not as open with her using an enemy's weapon so I give her the other DLC Eviscerator shotgun. 3 shots and sloooow to use. <.<

*pets the Claymore* Atleast you kill everything I point you at. ^^

You guys think they'll be pre-order bonuses?

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Actually the reason I mentioned the whole geth processes in geth weapons thing is because in ME1 it specifically mentions geth weapons that are recovered ceasing to function after awhile. I wonder why.

Better talk to the Geth expert... hmm, Legion or Tali...
"Tali, I got a question!"

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Personally I much prefer the Scimitar shotgun over either of the DLC shotguns. Fast fire, decent damage, and high clip capacity.

Pre-order bonuses are highly likely...I'm going to guess a few extra outfits for your squad members, and maybe a few extra weapons.

If they go with extra outfits, I'm hoping Tali gets a stunning new suit. Alternately, if she already has a new suit as default, maybe the option to toggle to 'ME2 Tali' suits? I liked her LM one quite a lot.

Modifié par Swordfish56, 19 juillet 2011 - 06:53 .


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Put her back in her Pheonix armor colors.

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I think that Tali's ME2 suit was so popular that it will probably only be tweaked in ME3. I guess a new game doesn't necessarily mean a new look for each character. I mean, Liara is still wearing her SB outfit it seems.

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But the SB outfit WAS her ME3 outfit, just utilized early for LotSB. The outfit Liara wore while she was working as an information broker on Illium was her ME2 look.

Garrus has a new look, Kaiden has a new look, Liara has her new look from Lair, Ashley has a new look, Jack is confirmed to have a new look... but Tali and what seems to be Tali alone should not? I don't think I'd feel it was fair if Tali looks the same as in ME2.

I'd think she'll have been neglected at best, and reduced to a second-class squadmate compared to all of the others at worst, if they don't give her a new outfit for ME3. It's not like there's precedent set for Tali's suit in ME2 to be that important, she can easily change between other suits throughout ME1 and between the two alternate ones she has in ME2. It's not like she only has one suit she survives on, and she just keeps patching up that one.

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Swordfish56 wrote...

I think Tali is practical enough to recognize a useful tool when she sees one, Geth weapon or not. She might even take a liking to downing Geth with their own weapons : )


I ended up disliking how the geth shotgun looked on Tali/Jack/Jacob, and decided Grunt was better suited to being the only character to use it. It looks fine on their back when not in use, but looks ridiculous when it folds out into something the size of a lawn chair.

The thing makes the Claymore look like a toy in size. <_<

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Geth must make everything out of an ultra-light composite... I've knocked Primes onto the ground from just a handful of shots from a Mattock.

For those of you who lack a physics background the physical impact of a bullet (the amount of movement it incurs on the target) roughly equals the recoil felt by firing the weapon (unless you include inertia compensation in the weapons).

What this means is that the plasma shotgun probably weighs less then every other shotgun despite it's surprising bulk. XD

But... back to Tali. Man, just played her loyalty mission again and I'm sitting here thinking of the dizzying number of variables that could come out of just that one mission. To tell Han'Gerrel what Rael was doing or not after the trial... Be pro-war or anti-war...

Man... I really hope that Tali doesn't end up being the 5th Admiral. She'd hate it, especially in the time between ME 2 and ME 3. Han pro-war, Zaal pro-peace, Shala, Tali, and Daro being the swing votes... Daro being the insane and power hungry sort she is. It's a real mess.

Then there's the Tali v. Legion conflict in ME2... She looks to Shepard for advice so much I almost wonder if the variable of that confrontation will have major effects. Charm confrontation results in Legion and Tali cooperating to forestall the war maybe?

Tali: *secures transmission* "Okay there's going to be a recon mission to Valor III. Could you use that to feed false information. We need Han and the other admirals to see a war as an impossible task."
Legion: "We will leave a false data-packet at the site containing a modified copy of the geth fleet's order of battle. We anticipate the Creator Admiral Han'Gerrel will be distressed with word of our fleet's numerical superiority."
Tali: "You understand this data must appear to be real and defended."
Legion: "We have already prepared a number of expendable mobile platforms, their programs will have been backed up to an archived copy before deployment. We will attempt to keep Creator casualties to a minimum."
Tali: "Thank you legion." *sighs and turns to her secondary monitor with an extranet feed of the trial* "Shepard is going through the same thing I was... and I'm not there for him, damn it."

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So, this is Satsuma... my old account wouldn't let me upload custom avatars due to some EA persona bug so I had to create a new one and transfer my game registration over, lol.

I have to say I love the idea of Tali feeling a connection with Shepard between both of your (ridiculous in their own ways) trials.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Put her back in her Pheonix armor colors.


phoenix armor for Tali, hmm she looks good :)
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Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

I think that Tali's ME2 suit was so popular that it will probably only be tweaked in ME3. I guess a new game doesn't necessarily mean a new look for each character. I mean, Liara is still wearing her SB outfit it seems.


Well, from what we've seen about Ashley (from Casey Hudson's tweets), I think the squadmates will have more than one outfit.

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The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

I think that Tali's ME2 suit was so popular that it will probably only be tweaked in ME3. I guess a new game doesn't necessarily mean a new look for each character. I mean, Liara is still wearing her SB outfit it seems.


Well, from what we've seen about Ashley (from Casey Hudson's tweets), I think the squadmates will have more than one outfit.


Weren't there two different suits in ME2 also? As much as I remember the outfits there differed only by color.

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Harts wrote...

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

I think that Tali's ME2 suit was so popular that it will probably only be tweaked in ME3. I guess a new game doesn't necessarily mean a new look for each character. I mean, Liara is still wearing her SB outfit it seems.


Well, from what we've seen about Ashley (from Casey Hudson's tweets), I think the squadmates will have more than one outfit.


Weren't there two different suits in ME2 also? As much as I remember the outfits there differed only by color.


Those were really just different colors. From what he said, Ashley can wear armor as well as the outfit that we've seen her wearing so far,  and that would be a different outfit. I'm probably being too optimistic, but i hope that means that other characters can have other outfits as well, not just a color change.

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Just wanted to show my support. Tali is one of my favorite game characters of all time. Here's hoping Bioware doesn't screw that up for the finale. Yay, Tali! :)

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StellarMagic wrote...

Actually the reason I mentioned the whole geth processes in geth weapons thing is because in ME1 it specifically mentions geth weapons that are recovered ceasing to function after awhile. I wonder why.

Better talk to the Geth expert... hmm, Legion or Tali...
"Tali, I got a question!"

They go on Thermal Clips (they are Geth tech)... At the time they were not yet known, so one basically shoots the GPR till its current clip is exhausted and at that point its impossible to make it fire again (as the galactic community still didn't know of Thermal Clip tech), exactly as happens to you in ME2 if you exhaust all you Termal Clips in a weapon...

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ISpeakTheTruth wrote...
On Topic:

Does anyone think Tali may be an admiral when the game starts if you didn't reveal Tali's father's data and convinced the Quarians not to banish her? There are hints that people want to make her that by the end of ME2 and it would give
her some power in any decisions involving the Reapers.


No, I don't think Tali would be admiral at the start of the game. However I wouldn't be surprised if she would have been one of canditates, but at the end they choose someone else. Tali is still too young and inexperienced in that role. She had only lead few science or retrival teams, but being admiral would mean she is responsible for whole fleet and that's something they must now. But this would also be quite clear message. Tali would become good admiral after few years of learning and getting more experience. 

Though there is always the possibility that Tali might become admiral during the game, which would be her reason for not being permanent squadmate. And if Tali would then become admiral, that would guarantee Quarian support for Shep and the fight against Reapers and it would make co-operation even better.

So, I would say that if BW does make Tali as Admiral, then it most likely happens during the game and not before it. Though I would prefer that Tali would not become admiral. Because that they she would have more time to be on Normandy.

 

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PhantomSpectre wrote...

ISpeakTheTruth wrote...
On Topic:

Does anyone think Tali may be an admiral when the game starts if you didn't reveal Tali's father's data and convinced the Quarians not to banish her? There are hints that people want to make her that by the end of ME2 and it would give
her some power in any decisions involving the Reapers.


No, I don't think Tali would be admiral at the start of the game. However I wouldn't be surprised if she would have been one of canditates, but at the end they choose someone else. Tali is still too young and inexperienced in that role. She had only lead few science or retrival teams, but being admiral would mean she is responsible for whole fleet and that's something they must now. But this would also be quite clear message. Tali would become good admiral after few years of learning and getting more experience. 

Though there is always the possibility that Tali might become admiral during the game, which would be her reason for not being permanent squadmate. And if Tali would then become admiral, that would guarantee Quarian support for Shep and the fight against Reapers and it would make co-operation even better.

So, I would say that if BW does make Tali as Admiral, then it most likely happens during the game and not before it. Though I would prefer that Tali would not become admiral. Because that they she would have more time to be on Normandy.


isn't she too young for this? An admiral is the highest ranking officer in quarian milita, what is her current-rank in quarian militia? :blush:

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Webkahve wrote...
what is her current-rank in quarian militia? :blush:

She doesn't appear to have one, formally.

("Admiral's daughter" isn't a rank as far as I know)

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T.Attwood wrote...


If the Quarians take back Rannoch, maybe this is one of the ways in which the Mass Effect games will continue, either as a new game or as DLC for ME3,perhaps using Tali as the central character. A game involving the re-integration of the Flotilla onto the planet, the disolution of the Military, political in-fighting, and discovering what the Geth have been up to on Rannoch over the last 300 years, could be quite interesting!


Well DLC could be possible, but future ME games using Tali (and any other LI) or any other current ME characters (except Asari, Krogan and Legion) as central charactar is something I don't see being possible. BW had already stated that ME3 is last game in Shep's story and because of that it would be nearly impossible to use some characters, who had been closely related to Shep without somehow bringing him/her into the story. So, only way to use these character and be sure that Shep is not somehow going to be part of the game, is that he/she had died. And if this is the case, then it would also mean that lot of current ME characters are dead too, Tali included.

Future ME games, if there is any, would most likely use completely new character, which are in no way related to Shep or even his/hers timeline, meaning that Shep would be dead in future games and all happening would be years after Shep's time.

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PhantomSpectre wrote...

T.Attwood wrote...


If the Quarians take back Rannoch, maybe this is one of the ways in which the Mass Effect games will continue, either as a new game or as DLC for ME3,perhaps using Tali as the central character. A game involving the re-integration of the Flotilla onto the planet, the disolution of the Military, political in-fighting, and discovering what the Geth have been up to on Rannoch over the last 300 years, could be quite interesting!


Well DLC could be possible, but future ME games using Tali (and any other LI) or any other current ME characters (except Asari, Krogan and Legion) as central charactar is something I don't see being possible. BW had already stated that ME3 is last game in Shep's story and because of that it would be nearly impossible to use some characters, who had been closely related to Shep without somehow bringing him/her into the story. So, only way to use these character and be sure that Shep is not somehow going to be part of the game, is that he/she had died. And if this is the case, then it would also mean that lot of current ME characters are dead too, Tali included.

Future ME games, if there is any, would most likely use completely new character, which are in no way related to Shep or even his/hers timeline, meaning that Shep would be dead in future games and all happening would be years after Shep's time.


There's also a strong possibility for ME Prequels. Sci-Fi writers love them some prequels...

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PhantomSpectre wrote...

Though there is always the possibility that Tali might become admiral during the game, which would be her reason for not being permanent squadmate. And if Tali would then become admiral, that would guarantee Quarian support for Shep and the fight against Reapers and it would make co-operation even better.


Story wise she should be on there at the beginning when Ash and Vega fly in. It is Vas Normandy after all. With her knowledge the Admirals will allow her to burn through the ranks, all while on the Normandy. If she was an admiral (Replacing her father) the thing is she can be as high ranked as such but not be a combatant. She has the experience but that doesn't mean she'll be left to fleet decisions. My two cents is that she'll be called upon once more to conduct a high valued mission on the homeworld. The Normady is stealthy after all. There's a screen shot of Shepard in ME3 about the use the Omni-blade on a geth. Posted Image

I'm using that for my fanfict which takes place after ME3.

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