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exelsis wrote...

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Anything that doesn't look human is ok by me I must say. Unfortunately what we got in game is exactly that...a human.


Personally Human-like is fine, but at least make a few changes rather than just the eyes and hands.

Can't help but agree, I think that bugs me more than the fact it's a shop of a stock image.

Bugs me more that the most popular squadmate has no citadel date, shows no skin at all, and generally recieved the least amount of work. The photo was lazy, the romance was short, the sex scenes were from a G rated movie. Either show us skin, or don't pretend that you will. Only thing that was good was the dialogue, but there is so little of it, and the drunk tali scene, but that wasn't even talimance.



What are you talking about? We DID get skin in the romance scene.

             ..... Shepard's nips.

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forthary wrote...

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Tali's face is like a human, that includes her tongue. Freaks.
Makes me think of a lizard the way you are describing her...


You never know...some parts of a quarian's head are not similar to humans, namely the ears. Yeah, sure, what the heck, the tongue might not be either, but who knows? I don't like the idea of getting french-kissed, choked or even impregnated by Tali's tongue, thank you very much.

Anyways...on a more serious note, I still am in debate as to whether or not Tali's eyes actually glow or if it is a feature on her suit that gives others more awareness. Thoughts?


I was always under the impression that they actually do glow. Or if they dont actually "glow" they reflect light back.

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Ruined Requiem wrote...

Fattness132 wrote...

comrade gando wrote...

Anything that doesn't look human is ok by me I must say. Unfortunately what we got in game is exactly that...a human.


Personally Human-like is fine, but at least make a few changes rather than just the eyes and hands.

Can't help but agree, I think that bugs me more than the fact it's a shop of a stock image.


I personally like the image, remember that she has lower eyelids... (Mass effect assenition.

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exelsis wrote...

Bugs me more that the most popular squadmate has no citadel date, shows no skin at all, and generally recieved the least amount of work. The photo was lazy, the romance was short, the sex scenes were from a G rated movie.

Have you seen the amount of attention the other ME2 romances got? I don't think we have any right to complain.

And with Liara, although she asks for a re-affirmation of the romance as soon as you meet her, it's not brought up again until the "Citadel date" which is well after you pick up Tali. Tali's romance seemed to get much more casual acknowledgement than Liara's, even if Liara had a better love scene.

The only reason the love scene disappointed me is because it's lazy to not show what's under the suit even when we already have the picture, and they did it for the other squadmates.

And Liara's love scene, while nicely done, was definitely still very tame. I've seen TV commercials with more overt eroticism.

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exelsis wrote...

forthary wrote...

Cro730 wrote...

Tali's face is like a human, that includes her tongue. Freaks.
Makes me think of a lizard the way you are describing her...


You never know...some parts of a quarian's head are not similar to humans, namely the ears. Yeah, sure, what the heck, the tongue might not be either, but who knows? I don't like the idea of getting french-kissed, choked or even impregnated by Tali's tongue, thank you very much.

Anyways...on a more serious note, I still am in debate as to whether or not Tali's eyes actually glow or if it is a feature on her suit that gives others more awareness. Thoughts?

The source is definitely the eyes. They either luminesce, or reflect light from behind the retina like canines and felines. I think it is a reflection, as bioluminescense has no real purpose. Also supports the nocturnal theory.

And the tongue people are different than the parasite people. It's kinda complicated.

Hm, excellent points. I retract my earlier statements. TO be completely honost I completely forgot about the majority of those, though, they weren't memorable. Image IPB

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Shep's skin doesnt count. Stupid that they would have tali get RIGHT back into her 2-3 layered skintight environmentally sealed suit IMMEDIATELY after the act, so fast, that shepard doesn't even have time to put a shirt on. Bioware is getting lazy on us. I am very disappointed.

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Unschuld wrote...

What are you talking about? We DID get skin in the romance scene.

             ..... Shepard's nips.


I lol'd. :P

But even though it wasn't as great as it could be, compared to Thane, Jacob, Miranda and Jack, I'd say it did very well all things considering.

I thought the moments they shared together were very meaningful. Instead of the cliche'd "I love you, I love you too,"
Shepard said Keelah Se'lai, "By the homeworld I hope to see someday." Shepard acknowledging Tali's culture and willingness to be with her where she feels most at home really says something powerful about the two. That's how I felt about their romance anwyays. :whistle:

Modifié par Ryuji2, 30 mars 2012 - 04:37 .


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exelsis wrote...

The source is definitely the eyes. They either luminesce, or reflect light from behind the retina like canines and felines. I think it is a reflection, as bioluminescense has no real purpose. Also supports the nocturnal theory.

It has to be reflection, as bioluminescent eyes would basically blind you.

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I was always under the impression that they actually do glow. Or if they dont actually "glow" they reflect light back.


So far, most of what I've seen indicates that her eyes naturally glow.  Whenever she removes her mask, the eye dots are not there, even though the mask still has a bit of power on.  (Mass Effect 2 romance scene).  In addition, you may occasionally see her eyes 'blink', but I can't recall a vivid moment when she does that. 

The only evidence that might support that its a suit feature is that some quarians have eyes that look vastly different; I believe Admiral Raan is one example, having eyes that are more square than round.  Other than that, its the only evidence i've seen.  If only there was a quarian that would tell us the answer...

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Ryuji2 wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

What are you talking about? We DID get skin in the romance scene.

             ..... Shepard's nips.


I lol'd. :P

But even though it wasn't as great as it could be, compared to Thane, Jacob, Miranda and Jack, I'd say it did very well all things considering.


Yah, they did Tali's scene on the conservitive side, but it fit.  But they absolutely botched Thane's romance in ME3.:mellow:

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Dilandau3000 wrote...

exelsis wrote...

The source is definitely the eyes. They either luminesce, or reflect light from behind the retina like canines and felines. I think it is a reflection, as bioluminescense has no real purpose. Also supports the nocturnal theory.

It has to be reflection, as bioluminescent eyes would basically blind you.

Not if the quarians can't see at that wavelength. Which would be wierd, since the light from tali's eyes is white, not red or blue. Reflection it is. Quarians have good night vision!yay! HUMAN GENETIC ENGINEERING COULD ALLOW HUMANS TO SEE IN THE INFRARED IN UNDER A DECADE OF RESEARCH. LET'S GET ON THAT.

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I was happy with the romance scenes to be perfectly honest. I wasn't looking for a skin show, more dialogue would have been nice though.

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Modifié par Fattness132, 30 mars 2012 - 04:39 .


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For some reason that image reminds me of Kreia from KOTOR2. Weird

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Fattness132 wrote...

I was happy with the romance scenes to be perfectly honest. I wasn't looking for a skin show, more dialogue would have been nice though.

All I really wanted was some hardcore snuggle action. With...DIALOGUE! Hold her close and just talk.
Contacts are drying up, i'm out.
Keep tali in your hearts
In vectron's name, Keelah'Selai.

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Ryuji2 wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

What are you talking about? We DID get skin in the romance scene.

             ..... Shepard's nips.


I lol'd. :P

But even though it wasn't as great as it could be, compared to Thane, Jacob, Miranda and Jack, I'd say it did very well all things considering.


Yeah, this is exactly the reason I won't complain. I can make little jabs about Shepard showing off more in the romance scene though. Would I liked to have seen a bit more? Sure, the dialogue/scenes I got were awesome enough that of course I'd like to see additional content. I really would have liked to have seen a 3d model of Tali, or even just a few chopped up shots during the romance scene with her undoing bits of the suit and maybe even removing a glove. Maybe Bioware will do something like that in the future, maybe not. At least the photo was something. Meh.

In my personal headcannon, I'm assuming the reason she's completely suited up after the romance scene is that after living in a suit for ~25 years, she doesn't feel completely comfortable being nekkid... even with Shepard. Seems logical to me.

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Ryuji2 wrote...
I thought the moments they shared together were very meaningful. Instead of the cliche'd "I love you, I love you too,"
Shepard said Keelah Se'lai, "By the homeworld I hope to see someday." Shepard acknowledging Tali's culture and willingness to be with her where she feels most at home really says something powerful about the two. That's how I felt about their romance anwyays. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png[/smilie]

 

Gah! THIS too! I was so glad they didn't fall into that hole. It's fine when I say it to my significant other, but it just feels so bleh when you hear it in a movie/game. Good on them for adding this little hook to give the romance some additional unique character.

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exelsis wrote...

Fattness132 wrote...

I was happy with the romance scenes to be perfectly honest. I wasn't looking for a skin show, more dialogue would have been nice though.

All I really wanted was some hardcore snuggle action. With...DIALOGUE! Hold her close and just talk.
Contacts are drying up, i'm out.
Keep tali in your hearts
In vectron's name, Keelah'Selai.


Could they have been more graphic?  If they chose to, sure.  But I don't think it would fit into Tali's character...

I could see her maybe taking pieces of her suit off, for the purpose of, say, Shepard giving Tali a shoulder or other type of body massage, but that's about it really.  Handsies, hugging, kissing, massaging, cudding under the blankets, snuggling, sharing passonate words, a bit of tickling...this kind of stuff would really fit into a Tali romance scene. 

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EDIT: Incomplete post.

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exelsis wrote...

Fattness132 wrote...

I was happy with the romance scenes to be perfectly honest. I wasn't looking for a skin show, more dialogue would have been nice though.

All I really wanted was some hardcore snuggle action. With...DIALOGUE! Hold her close and just talk.
Contacts are drying up, i'm out.
Keep tali in your hearts
In vectron's name, Keelah'Selai.

Agreed, I would have really liked this.

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Aaaan I'm back from playing MP. What's everyone talkin' about now?

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Unschuld wrote...

In my personal headcannon, I'm assuming the reason she's completely suited up after the romance scene is that after living in a suit for ~25 years, she doesn't feel completely comfortable being nekkid... even with Shepard. Seems logical to me.

I haven't seen it in a while, but my feeling was that the scene following the romance was the next morning (or at least a few hours later), and Tali was suiting up getting ready for work.

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Dilandau3000 wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

In my personal headcannon, I'm assuming the reason she's completely suited up after the romance scene is that after living in a suit for ~25 years, she doesn't feel completely comfortable being nekkid... even with Shepard. Seems logical to me.

I haven't seen it in a while, but my feeling was that the scene following the romance was the next morning (or at least a few hours later), and Tali was suiting up getting ready for work. And


Yes, that's what I see too. I was more or less explaining why there wasn't a shot of them waking up in bed next to each other.

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gamer_girl wrote...

Aaaan I'm back from playing MP. What's everyone talkin' about now?

Are you on PC? If so, what's your Origin handle?

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gamer_girl wrote...

Aaaan I'm back from playing MP. What's everyone talkin' about now?


Picking apart why/why not the Tali romance arc was well done.

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gamer_girl wrote...

Aaaan I'm back from playing MP. What's everyone talkin' about now?


Tali's long cylindrical tongue!:wub:

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Cheese of Borg wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

Aaaan I'm back from playing MP. What's everyone talkin' about now?


Tali's long cylindrical tongue!:wub:

No, I'm pretty sure it's just you that's talking about that. Image IPB

The normal people were talking about levels of satisfaction with the romance dialog.