Gerudan wrote...
Gerrel is an idiot, who throws away his whole race for a futile war in a time, where a much bigger threat is looming on the horizon.
zim1017 wrote...
On the one hand you can say they should have been more careful, on the other hand they were probably working in uncharted territory. On the one hand you can say it might have been wrong to try and wipe out the geth, but on the other they could have been right about an inevitable Geth revolt.
It's a sticky subject because we don't know all the details.
zim1017 wrote...
lol, I feel like I'm the only one that likes Gerrel.
lomifeh wrote...
zim1017 wrote...
On the one hand you can say they should have been more careful, on the other hand they were probably working in uncharted territory. On the one hand you can say it might have been wrong to try and wipe out the geth, but on the other they could have been right about an inevitable Geth revolt.
It's a sticky subject because we don't know all the details.
Well going by the records we see, the government reacted violently to the situation when it occured. I can ind of see why but the fact that it was not a universal feeling and how the government resorted to acts which killed their own people says a lot. Considering the Geth did stop when they could have wiped out all Quarians during the Morning War hints strongly it was a survival thing for the Geth not agression.
You can also see this in later generations of Quarians where the party line regarding them was maintained almost blindly. That is understandable considering the history. Tali interacting with Legion and seeing Shep interact is what changed her mind. Like anyhting else familiarity is the best way to shatter false impressions.
zim1017 wrote...
Sure, but the Quarians didn't know the geth wouldn't pursue them. We also don't know how the situation would unfold if they didnt try to wipe them out, it is a sound assumption that sentient AIs wouldn't be satisfied with an existence meant for simple labor VIs. Trying to smash them is certainly a lot simpler than fundamentally restructuring society to capacitate a synthetic race that unintendly turned sentient, not to mention it was illegal by council law. So it was a very sticky matter.
AI research was only outlawed AFTER the morning war though.zim1017 wrote...
lomifeh wrote...
zim1017 wrote...
On the one hand you can say they should have been more careful, on the other hand they were probably working in uncharted territory. On the one hand you can say it might have been wrong to try and wipe out the geth, but on the other they could have been right about an inevitable Geth revolt.
It's a sticky subject because we don't know all the details.
Well going by the records we see, the government reacted violently to the situation when it occured. I can ind of see why but the fact that it was not a universal feeling and how the government resorted to acts which killed their own people says a lot. Considering the Geth did stop when they could have wiped out all Quarians during the Morning War hints strongly it was a survival thing for the Geth not agression.
You can also see this in later generations of Quarians where the party line regarding them was maintained almost blindly. That is understandable considering the history. Tali interacting with Legion and seeing Shep interact is what changed her mind. Like anyhting else familiarity is the best way to shatter false impressions.
Sure, but the Quarians didn't know the geth wouldn't pursue them. We also don't know how the situation would unfold if they didnt try to wipe them out, it is a sound assumption that sentient AIs wouldn't be satisfied with an existence meant for simple labor VIs. Trying to smash them is certainly a lot simpler than fundamentally restructuring society to capacitate a synthetic race that unintendly turned sentient, not to mention it was illegal by council law. So it was a very sticky matter.
lomifeh wrote...
zim1017 wrote...
Sure, but the Quarians didn't know the geth wouldn't pursue them. We also don't know how the situation would unfold if they didnt try to wipe them out, it is a sound assumption that sentient AIs wouldn't be satisfied with an existence meant for simple labor VIs. Trying to smash them is certainly a lot simpler than fundamentally restructuring society to capacitate a synthetic race that unintendly turned sentient, not to mention it was illegal by council law. So it was a very sticky matter.
Well considering the first agressive act by the Geth was by an agricultural unit to defend others I am not sure. I suspect the Quarians reacted as they did because of the council law as much as anything. A sticky issue? Sure to some degree but really it's like Shep says, the whole history of the quarians relating to the geth has been one of the quarians attempting to wipe them out and the geth reacting. Legion also mentions that the geth were unsure of themselves and what they should do at first. And after all this time the Geth show a bent towards service as a whole after you get peace with them. Nothing we see in game points to the Geth as being likely to revolt in that manner. Could it happen? sure but I am not sure it would be that likely.
Well atleast I remembered that the ban was set to stop another geth type rebellion from happening...lomifeh wrote...
@Jonttu1 Are you sure? I thought the prohibition on AI predated the Geth? The quarians got around the restriction by having the networked intelligence instead of a blue box setup.
Jonttu1 wrote...
Well atleast I remembered that the ban was set to stop another geth type rebellion from happening...lomifeh wrote...
@Jonttu1 Are you sure? I thought the prohibition on AI predated the Geth? The quarians got around the restriction by having the networked intelligence instead of a blue box setup.
Modifié par Ryuji2, 30 mars 2012 - 06:26 .
Ryuji2 wrote...
Also,Mad, the bar was pretty busy last night. The turian brandy's running low because had a lot of dextro drinks served as a pick-me-up from the endings. We should be fine on rum and whisky though for a while.
Modifié par forthary, 30 mars 2012 - 06:29 .
forthary wrote...
I might also add that quarian's tongues were being stuck down peoples throats, which also caused a high demand in brandy...don't ask why, you'd have to look back to see why. Telling you will probably start it all over again...
Ryuji2 wrote...
forthary wrote...
I might also add that quarian's tongues were being stuck down peoples throats, which also caused a high demand in brandy...don't ask why, you'd have to look back to see why. Telling you will probably start it all over again...
Not quite...
There was just an...interesting conversation about a concept art where Tali had a long tongue.
Ninja quarian!!!Alpha90 wrote...
Geth, get down!
Or do the Quarian-kick!
her neck should be longer, amirite?Messier87 wrote...
Thought I'd leave this here, figure some of you have seen this already:
*welldone snip*
Looks like more people are recognizing the subtleties in Tali's photo I mentioned yesterday. The facial structure here is probably one of the closest to canon I've seen in a fanart.
darthrevaninlight wrote...
her neck should be longer, amirite?
I painted them all kinds of awesome.Ryuji2 wrote...
I have returned. I see the thread has advanced a few pages while I've been away. No one took over Mad's bar while I was away either it seems...
Also,Mad, the bar was pretty busy last night. The turian brandy's running low because had a lot of dextro drinks served as a pick-me-up from the endings. We should be fine on rum and whisky though for a while.
One last thing. I don't think those tiny statues of Tali have been painted yet but Revan volunteered to paint them.
Edit since FORMATTING IS TERRIBLE!
darthrevaninlight wrote...
I painted them all kinds of awesome.
one is chocolate chip, another orange burst, a third is darth Tali, the fourth is Tali the omnipotent, the fifth Tali shy
And the sixth one is Tali.
Also, speaking of Darth Tali, I found this the other day:
:wub:Oh Tali, you are so adorable when you are on the dark side....Ryuji2 wrote...
darthrevaninlight wrote...
I painted them all kinds of awesome.
one is chocolate chip, another orange burst, a third is darth Tali, the fourth is Tali the omnipotent, the fifth Tali shy
And the sixth one is Tali.
There's 6 more to go! We had at least a dozen made.
*DAWsnip*
darthrevaninlight wrote...
:wub:Oh Tali, you are so adorable when you are on the dark side....Ryuji2 wrote...
darthrevaninlight wrote...
I painted them all kinds of awesome.
one is chocolate chip, another orange burst, a third is darth Tali, the fourth is Tali the omnipotent, the fifth Tali shy
And the sixth one is Tali.
There's 6 more to go! We had at least a dozen made.
*DAWsnip*
I'm thinking of theming the other six as either playing cards, omnitool types, or perhaps food items
lol
darthrevaninlight wrote...
:wub:Oh Tali, you are so adorable when you are on the dark side....
I'm thinking of theming the other six as either playing cards, omnitool types, or perhaps food items
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