Tali'Zorah ME3 Thread *MAJOR SPOILER WARNING!*
#28451
Posté 01 avril 2012 - 11:24
#28452
Posté 01 avril 2012 - 11:27
Well, assuming for some totally insane reason you don't romance Tali as MaleShep, and don't romance Garrus as FemShep....the two of them have been through almost as much with each other as they've been through with you. And they are both Dextros. I suppose that counts for something.darthrevaninlight wrote...
.....Yes. But the fact that they DID end up together. How does that even happen?Fenrisfil wrote...
No Garrus killing please. It's not his fault there are NO TURIAN WOMEN IN THE GALAXY! We just need to find a way to convince him that he needs to hook up with someone else. Dr. Michelle seems to like him. Eve digs scars. Anyone really but Tali. They should have made that an "encouragement" romance like Joker/EDE really.
It's a good job I'm not really tempted to playthrough without romancing Tali.
If it can be rationalized, someone please explain!!! >__>
Otherwise, Garrus dies:devil:
Of course, if Garrus gets with Tali when you had a chance then you've only yourelf to blame. I've yet to play through a MaleShep run without a Talimance, because she's mine goram it. Mine and nobody elses! <.<
I just never talked to her.Crazyjeffy wrote...
Does anyone know how to avoid relationship with Liara in ME1? I wanna save it for Tali and I already locked out Ashley, but I don't wanna go back 50 pages to find the post I'm looking for >.>
Modifié par ViolentSleep, 01 avril 2012 - 11:28 .
#28453
Posté 01 avril 2012 - 11:28
Fattness132 wrote...
darthrevaninlight wrote...
btw, @iwillkillfortali,
I think you can understand my hatred of this picture:
*Snip*
it's just wrong, right? what should we do about this?
*readies torch and pitchforks*
As much as i like Garrus, i can never do a non-tali romance because of this. Just upsets me.
BW's point of view(how I see it):
It's...interesting and makes sense considering BW loves Liara so much. Also to those that didn't romance Garrus or Tali, BW probably felt that it would be sad if both would be alone so they got them together.
My POV:
However, I think that Garrus would have been better off with the reach and flexibility girl he talked about. Speaking of, we STILL don't see female turians. What is this I don't even. Then again, that's a whole 'nother topic. None of the other romance options interested me as much as Tali.
Heck, I've stated it before a while back but even in ME1 I didn't care for the options they gave. Tali who wasn't even a LI in 1 was more interesting to me. Finding out she was a LI in ME2 made me jump for joy. It felt right, if that makes any sense. I mean, well, here:
"What could I possibly be suggesting? I mean, a young woman gets rescued by a dashing commander who invites her to join his crew and then goes off to save the galaxy? How could she possibly develop any interest in him?"
Just....
It's even better when you return the feelings. She gets really excited, thinking that there was no way she could be with Shepard and yet she finds out he feels the same way? Probably was the best thing she'd heard in a while. It felt natural, even if it was cross-species. For me, Tali's the best and only LI for my Shep.
Crazyjeffy wrote...
Does anyone know how to avoid
relationship with Liara in ME1? I wanna save it for Tali and I already
locked out Ashley, but I don't wanna go back 50 pages to find the post
I'm looking for >.>
Wait...how did you lock out Ashley? I tell her hi and she practically loves Shep even though I don't want her.
Modifié par Ryuji2, 01 avril 2012 - 11:29 .
#28454
Posté 01 avril 2012 - 11:31
Ryuji2 wrote...
Crazyjeffy wrote...
Does anyone know how to avoid
relationship with Liara in ME1? I wanna save it for Tali and I already
locked out Ashley, but I don't wanna go back 50 pages to find the post
I'm looking for >.>
Wait...how did you lock out Ashley? I tell her hi and she practically loves Shep even though I don't want her.and it's easy to lock out Liara, just keep talking to her. When she asks if you feel anything for her as she does for you, say no. Done.
For Ash I told her she was out of line when she brought up having aliens on the ship.
And I will try this.
#28455
Posté 01 avril 2012 - 11:32
Crazyjeffy wrote...
Ryuji2 wrote...
Crazyjeffy wrote...
Does anyone know how to avoid
relationship with Liara in ME1? I wanna save it for Tali and I already
locked out Ashley, but I don't wanna go back 50 pages to find the post
I'm looking for >.>
Wait...how did you lock out Ashley? I tell her hi and she practically loves Shep even though I don't want her.and it's easy to lock out Liara, just keep talking to her. When she asks if you feel anything for her as she does for you, say no. Done.
For Ash I told her she was out of line when she brought up having aliens on the ship.
And I will try this.
Interesting. Normally I do paragon stuff 90% of the time and never really did renegade stuff against her(even though she is really racist in 1...<_<). Always bothered me.
Edit: LOL this is terrible but I laughed a lot after reading it. I was reading about declining romance in 1 and came across this quote:
"I rejected Ashley on Virmire. I don't think she took it well, haven't seen her since."
Modifié par Ryuji2, 01 avril 2012 - 11:37 .
#28456
Posté 01 avril 2012 - 11:33
With Liara, just tell her you're not interested when she starts expressing her interest in you.
EDIT: damn ninjas
Modifié par Messier87, 01 avril 2012 - 11:34 .
#28457
Posté 01 avril 2012 - 11:36
and that child is made of space magic...
#28458
Posté 01 avril 2012 - 11:37
Yeah, I get that Garrus would want to be with Tali because, well, it's Tali.Ryuji2 wrote...
Fattness132 wrote...
darthrevaninlight wrote...
btw, @iwillkillfortali,
I think you can understand my hatred of this picture:
*Snip*
it's just wrong, right? what should we do about this?
*readies torch and pitchforks*
As much as i like Garrus, i can never do a non-tali romance because of this. Just upsets me.
BW's point of view(how I see it):
It's...interesting and makes sense considering BW loves Liara so much. Also to those that didn't romance Garrus or Tali, BW probably felt that it would be sad if both would be alone so they got them together.
My POV:
However, I think that Garrus would have been better off with the reach and flexibility girl he talked about. Speaking of, we STILL don't see female turians. What is this I don't even. Then again, that's a whole 'nother topic. None of the other romance options interested me as much as Tali.
*Taliquotesare indeed amazing.*
But I just can't see Tali doing a fling, or getting together just because Garrus feels like it. She made it pretty clear that wasn't possible with her immune system. So, why?
Modifié par darthrevaninlight, 01 avril 2012 - 11:37 .
#28459
Posté 01 avril 2012 - 11:39
Crazyjeffy wrote...
Does anyone know how to avoid relationship with Liara in ME1? I wanna save it for Tali and I already locked out Ashley, but I don't wanna go back 50 pages to find the post I'm looking for >.>
Avoid paragon responses where possible. To be absolutely sure just don't talk to her outside of mission requirements. I think you may even be able to tell her your not interested at some point.
#28460
Posté 01 avril 2012 - 11:42
darthrevaninlight wrote...
Yeah, I get that Garrus would want to be with Tali because, well, it's Tali.
But I just can't see Tali doing a fling, or getting together just because Garrus feels like it. She made it pretty clear that wasn't possible with her immune system. So, why?
I'm not sure, really. I was trying to offer insight into why BW did it. For me it doesn't make sense for them to be together but it does for BW. I probably didn't word my statement to make it less weird sounding. Considering even if Tali wasn't romanced, I'm betting she still has feelings for Shepard even after the six months away.
Then again I never had to worry about that considering I always romance her.
#28461
Posté 01 avril 2012 - 11:43
Finished writing the very end of the fanfic ending (decided to do this bit first as i'd have the most trouble on it), pressed the wrong button and BAM!
Gone.....*Sniff*
I need a hug...
#28462
Posté 01 avril 2012 - 11:44
bazzag wrote...
ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH!
Finished writing the very end of the fanfic ending (decided to do this bit first as i'd have the most trouble on it), pressed the wrong button and BAM!
Gone.....*Sniff*
I need a hug...
<Internet hug>
#28463
Posté 01 avril 2012 - 11:45
The most you can get from Tali in ME1:

and her response

To be fair, Liara fans were really snubbed in ME2. They had to wait for Lair of the Shadowbroker for romance. And I prefer my Shepard to the default one, but he looks better in a helmet.
#28464
Posté 01 avril 2012 - 11:45
bazzag wrote...
ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH!
Finished writing the very end of the fanfic ending (decided to do this bit first as i'd have the most trouble on it), pressed the wrong button and BAM!
Gone.....*Sniff*
I need a hug...
...that really sucks.
This must be how Bioware lost their original ending to ME3.
*hug*
#28465
Posté 01 avril 2012 - 11:47
bazzag wrote...
ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH!
Finished writing the very end of the fanfic ending (decided to do this bit first as i'd have the most trouble on it), pressed the wrong button and BAM!
Gone.....*Sniff*
I need a hug...
*cyber hugs* s'okay, just remember to draft it next time.
#28466
Posté 01 avril 2012 - 11:48
So it's not just me. It really doesnt make sense. And it IS out of character(at least for Tali).Ryuji2 wrote...
I'm not sure, really. I was trying to offer insight into why BW did it. For me it doesn't make sense for them to be together but it does for BW. I probably didn't word my statement to make it less weird sounding. Considering even if Tali wasn't romanced, I'm betting she still has feelings for Shepard even after the six months away.
Then again I never had to worry about that considering I always romance her.
BIOWARE!!!!!! >
And Bioware may have done it for the surefire way that Tali fans would NEVER romance another. Talk about staying faithful. All my male Sheps have their hands tied. I was curious about Mirandamancing, or doing a Kaiden loyalty run. Maybe even Thane. But now...It's just not worth it.
Out of Character moments, from professionals like bioware...they just kill me.
Modifié par darthrevaninlight, 01 avril 2012 - 11:51 .
#28467
Posté 01 avril 2012 - 11:49
bazzag wrote...
ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH!
Finished writing the very end of the fanfic ending (decided to do this bit first as i'd have the most trouble on it), pressed the wrong button and BAM!
Gone.....*Sniff*
I need a hug...
Sorry to hear that...moments like that are always terrible. Here's a pic of Tali for comfort.
#28468
Posté 01 avril 2012 - 11:50
EmperorZorn wrote...
...that really sucks.
This must be how Bioware lost their original ending to ME3.
*hug*
Its annoying because i wanted it ready for you guys to read today. Instead it will be tomorrow.
But i'll perservere. I must, for talis sake
#28469
Posté 01 avril 2012 - 11:51
Ryuji2 wrote...
BW's point of view(how I see it):
It's...interesting and makes sense considering BW loves Liara so much. Also to those that didn't romance Garrus or Tali, BW probably felt that it would be sad if both would be alone so they got them together.
My POV:
However, I think that Garrus would have been better off with the reach and flexibility girl he talked about. Speaking of, we STILL don't see female turians. What is this I don't even. Then again, that's a whole 'nother topic. None of the other romance options interested me as much as Tali.
Heck, I've stated it before a while back but even in ME1 I didn't care for the options they gave. Tali who wasn't even a LI in 1 was more interesting to me. Finding out she was a LI in ME2 made me jump for joy. It felt right, if that makes any sense. I mean, well, here:
<snip>
I think BW did see it a bit like that. It does annoy me though that you don't get to be involved in that. You have to encourage EDE and Joker together, you have to encourage Gabby and uh..thingy together, none of those can be LI's or friends with benefits for male/female shepards. Yet two characters you can romance just get together by themselves and are the only two that do so (Well, crew members anyway). Add to that the fact you can't start a romance with either of them, only rekindle and you have something that says "canon" all over it. That annoys me.
I don't blame Garrus though. I can't he's too awesome and it's not his fault BW couldn't be bothered to do 3D models for Turian females (despite concept art existing) or to give him any other options. No other squad member hooks up with anyone if you don't make them LI's. That disapointed me too, I wanted my team to be happy. But it seems everyone is too obsessed with Commander Shepard to move on with their lives aside from Garrus and Tali.
#28470
Posté 01 avril 2012 - 11:51
Good man.bazzag wrote...
EmperorZorn wrote...
...that really sucks.
This must be how Bioware lost their original ending to ME3.
*hug*
Its annoying because i wanted it ready for you guys to read today. Instead it will be tomorrow.
But i'll perservere. I must, for talis sake
Hold DAT line.
#28472
Posté 01 avril 2012 - 11:53
#28473
Posté 01 avril 2012 - 11:55
#28474
Posté 01 avril 2012 - 11:57
Fenrisfil wrote...
Mind you it's pretty flaky the reasoning for Legion having to die to upload the code properly. One of those things just slipped in for plot reasons. You can get away with a certain amount of it mind.
I say there's still a chance Legion can be braught back alive. All that needs to be done is to download Legion's last auto-save, upload it onto a mobile geth platform and volia! It'll be like Legion never died. Legion may have sacrificed his coding to bring intelligence to all geth, but his auto-save still remains...
I wonder what Legion's consensus will decide to do once he realizes the war is over and the reapers are gone...he's always welcome to reside at Tali's house, or at least, I am. He would make a good manager at Tali's Waterworld* if he ever accepted the position.
*Tali's Waterworld is a fictional large private waterpark built alongside Tali's house. It is accessable to Shepard, Tali and any other guests the two authorize to visit. Geth normally staff it, but sometimes organics may too.
DaftArbiter wrote...
It's Renegade because it makes him feel like a total ass if he didn't hug kiss her in the second game.
That's kinda how I felt considering I didn't kiss Tali because I was worried I might kill her. Luckily, that didn't happen.
Modifié par forthary, 02 avril 2012 - 12:00 .
#28475
Posté 01 avril 2012 - 11:57
^This. It more than did it for me.Swordfish56 wrote...
Easiest way to avoid the ME1 romances for manShep is to nuke Ashley and not talk to Liara. Save it for Liara.
The most you can get from Tali in ME1:
and her response
To be fair, Liara fans were really snubbed in ME2. They had to wait for Lair of the Shadowbroker for romance. And I prefer my Shepard to the default one, but he looks better in a helmet.





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