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[HellBovine]

sitesunseen wrote...

Its kind of like during ME1 or 2 your really not given the option to side with the Quarians about the Geth, and if you do in conversations with tali it's considered renagade. It's like your being forced to side with Geth. Didn't like that to much.

I always do the renegade option and promise Tali that homeworld on the Alerai, no reason to lecture her while shes lookin for her dad. As much as i like legion, either the geth wise up and turn over Rannoch peacefully or they get fed to the reapers.

[Destroy Raiden_]

I would like a 3rd option when dealing w/ the quarian/geth war. I'd like to be neutral let them fight it out and I'll be the medical ship that treats both sides. The way I see it it is their war they keep wanting to drag me into it I'll just let them handle it until both sides decide they're tired of killing one another.

Modifié par Destroy Raiden , 22 juillet 2011 - 11:40 .

[HellBovine]

Destroy Raiden wrote...

I would like a 3rd option when dealing w/ the quarian/geth war. I'd like to be neutral let them fight it out and I'll be the medical ship that treats both sides. The way I see it it is their war they keep wanting to drag me into it I'll just let them handle it until both sides decide they're tired of killing one another.

Honestly, that would be the worst possible solution. You just end up with one utterly devestated survivor that would be of little to no use actually fighting the reapers.

Thinking in a miltitary perspective you are better off supporting one to facilitate a speedy victory, than letting it drag on and siding with the victor.

Modifié par HellBovine, 22 juillet 2011 - 11:48 .

[sites32]

We all know which race has more strength when it comes down to all out war with the Reapers. Most likely we have to find a way for the Quarians and Geth to band together and fight, I don't agree with it personally, but what other choice would we have besides losing the the trust of the Quarians, and the destruction of the Fleet to the Reaper threat.

[StellarMagic]

Hell, I don't even see how the Quarians can contemplate retaking Rannoch. The correlation of forces has got to be so obscenely bad for the Quarians.

The Quarian's have 50,000 old starships.
The heretic geth were a galactic threat by themselves, what do you think the true geth have at their disposal? Probably enough to turn that fleet into scrap metal without breaking a sweat.

It screams of desperation. Which is odd because Han'Gerrel seems to have his head pretty much on straight in the trial. If you push him about going to war the whole statement about needing a planet for non-combatants kind of shows he's not stupid at least. Then you have the professional soldier Kal'Reegar basically saying it would be a blood bath.

[sites32]

StellarMagic wrote...

Hell, I don't even see how the Quarians can contemplate retaking Rannoch. The correlation of forces has got to be so obscenely bad for the Quarians.

The Quarian's have 50,000 old starships.
The heretic geth were a galactic threat by themselves, what do you think the true geth have at their disposal? Probably enough to turn that fleet into scrap metal without breaking a sweat.

It screams of desperation. Which is odd because Han'Gerrel seems to have his head pretty much on straight in the trial. If you push him about going to war the whole statement about needing a planet for non-combatants kind of shows he's not stupid at least. Then you have the professional soldier Kal'Reegar basically saying it would be a blood bath.

I agree it is desperation to think they would have a chance against Geth forces. But when your people do not have a place to call home desperation comes into play. You will do anything to survive.

[Cheese of Borg]

Back from ME3 comic con;
Got a signeture from Liara's voice actor.

Wish Liz Socra was there.

[Sebby]

sitesunseen wrote...

Its kind of like during ME1 or 2 your really not given the option to side with the Quarians about the Geth, and if you do in conversations with tali it's considered renagade. It's like your being forced to side with Geth. Didn't like that to much.

I hate when the game tries to force my Shepard into one particular viewpoint. It's like with the Terra Firma sidequest in ME1 where it tries to do everything to get the player to be against Charles Saracino.

[Sebby]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Seboist wrote...


I hate when the game tries to force my Shepard into one particular viewpoint. It's like with the Terra Firma sidequest in ME1 where it tries to do everything to get the player to be against Charles Saracino.

Actually they pretty much let you agree with him.

What I hate is in some places Shepard is forced to accept the geth as people, and yet at other times you're given the option to refer to A.I.'s as the equipment that they are.

Yeah but it's annoying how a lot of the questions have a negative bias against him and how the side quest is called "our own worst enemy".

Not that it matters as the side quest doesn't import into ME2.

[sites32]

Lezlie.Shep wrote...

Cheese of Borg wrote...

Back from ME3 comic con;
Got a signeture from Liara's voice actor.

Wish Liz Socra was there.

Yeah, wish there a good interniew of Liz but Ali is such a sweetheart.


Other than that the Quarian's are desprate no doubt. It's been what, 600 years? BW writers will find a way to take those two rivals and form multiple outcomes.

Its been 300 yrs sense their escape. And I can see multiple outcomes with ME3.

[StellarMagic]

Saphra Deden wrote...

StellarMagic wrote...

Hell, I don't even see how the Quarians can contemplate retaking Rannoch. The correlation of forces has got to be so obscenely bad for the Quarians.

The geth are overrated. They have a lot of ships, sure, but not all of them will be armed.

In addition to that, they've tons of resources tied up fixing Rannoch and building their dyson sphere.

For heaven's sake, they couldn't even crush the Heretics.

Saphra if the geth were overrated the Migrant Fleet wouldn't even exist.  The geth would have lost to the quarians 300 years earlier.  The heretics and true geth never went to war they were allowed to leave.

I'm trying to think of a decent analogy to these events and nothing even comes close.  You have the quarian race, a species with a population numbering at least in their billions with multiple colony worlds reduced to 17 million people stuck on 300 year old starships while the geth have continued to grow and adapt.

Yes they have resources tied up in their megastructure, yes they want to be left alone.  But think about the geth themselves.  So long as they have raw materials, so long as they have backup memory cores they can replace lost platforms within minutes giving them a theoretically infinite pool of soldiers.  That alone makes a traditional military victory impossible.

[StellarMagic]

You guys know that the only proven way of permanently reprogramming geth requires a reaper produced virus. That Daro'Xen and the Idenna are looking into a reaper ally as a means of controlling the geth...

Yeah, I really doubt this will be a viable option. Daro'Xen is likely our main enemy in the Geth-Quarian part of ME3... but can we get back to discussing what's really important?

You know... Tali.

[sites32]

Tali thinks Daro Xen is nuts, and I agree. So would you give someone who's a few fries short of a happy meal access to a super weapon?

[Sherned]

They won't ever say it out loud, but the simple fact why Tali opposes Xen is because she and Han'Gerrel actually do view the geth as people. As such, they'd rather defeat the geth in a "clean, honorable war" rather than get their hands dirty doing something "dishonorable" like brainwashing them. That's how they think.

Or I could just be pulling stuff out of my ass. You never know with me.

[Homebound]

tali is the deadliest engineer in space.

[Xarathox]

Saphra Deden wrote...

StellarMagic wrote...

Hell, I don't even see how the Quarians can contemplate retaking Rannoch. The correlation of forces has got to be so obscenely bad for the Quarians.

The geth are overrated. They have a lot of ships, sure, but not all of them will be armed.

In addition to that, they've tons of resources tied up fixing Rannoch and building their dyson sphere.

For heaven's sake, they couldn't even crush the Heretics.

They are machines, capable of manufacturing anything they need in much shorter time frames than any organic race ever could. Which is probably the direct reason the Quarians lost to begin with. They don't need sleep, food, water, air or anything else organics do to survive.

It's been 300 years. I doubt the Quarians caused so much damage to their home world that a few thousand Geth couldn't repair most if not all of it during that time, since they'd most like be going at it non stop 24/7. Hell, for all we know the Geth may already be done with the reconstruction, and now mainly do maintenance...sweeping streets/sidewalks, mow lawns, trim hedges, etc.

As far as resources are concerned, Geth only need basic materials needed to constuct more platforms for the varied tasks. And as stated earlier, they need nothing that organics do, so they could literally switch from mundane daily tasks to full bore war machine manufacturing in most probably in mere hours, instead of the months or even years organics have to invest time into such endeavors.

Lastly, the Heretics were allowed to leave. The Geth saw no reason to wage war when a peaceful option was clear and present for both sides. But, Legion had discovered that that peace was unable to continue due to the Heretics constructing a virus to convert them, and we all know the conclusion to that....so no need to go there.

The only thing we can reasonably call into question is how quickly the Geth could create new programs to continue expanding the conscious collection. Or in simple terms; how quickly can they "breed" to expand their numbers?

[Homebound]

5 imaginary internet moneyz says Tali will be a fleet admiral by the end of me3.

[Homebound]

is there a way to romance tali and NOT keep the geth data a secret? id like it to be deleted