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skwisgaarthegod wrote...

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Well if we're talking longevity, I guess I'd be a Reaper. Probably would make dating a little too hard. Not sure Tali would approve. Pretty sure her dad would hate me.

At least you got those tentacles ;) And a voice that can crush the balls of a billion men.


I'd want the super deep Sovereign's voice. What lady could resist that? I imagine just saying "I know you feel this" in Sovereign's voice would have them all a quiver.

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skwisgaarthegod wrote...

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Really though, I'd trade the sex change for a 1000 year lifespan. But then technically a Geth could live longer. Krogans can live a pretty long time time.

I always found the idea that Salarians never figured a way to fix their own short lifespans a bit strange, after all aging is just a slow corruption of your DNA and a build up of oxygen damage (at least in humans), I would expect by the time we're as technically advanced as the civilizations of Mass Effect, life spans will be stupidly long and we'd be able to fix the aging damage. Given the Salarian's scientific background it seems strange that they never figured a fix to their own short lived nature.

Yeah, they can control the population of an entire species, but can't lengthen their own lives. Pretty funny. I'm sure doc could figure it out if he was still alive.


Some say (biologically speaking) death is the price we pay for sex. So perhaps they were just too horny and realised they'd have an overpopulation problem. Not that the sex/death thing seems to cause a problem for Asari's.

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Well is it really that bad to have a female anatomy? It's very common for asari to be lesbians. Having boobs is kind of a pain in the neck, but it's nothing you can't get used to.

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Shower time on the normandy. Tali takes her showers in the captain's cabin now, though. I help her...wash her back. And everywhere else too.
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gamer_girl wrote...

Well is it really that bad to have a female anatomy? It's very common for asari to be lesbians. Having boobs is kind of a pain in the neck, but it's nothing you can't get used to.

I think I'd get used to them :P

Alas, it is time for me to sleep so I can do things in the morning. Good night and Keelah Se'lai friends.

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Well is it really that bad to have a female anatomy? It's very common for asari to be lesbians. Having boobs is kind of a pain in the neck, but it's nothing you can't get used to.


That isn't a problm for me, it's more so the whole idea of watching loved ones die etc. I'm pretty sure that its frowned upon in Asari culture for two Asari to mate with eachother or something like that? It would be cool to live for that long, but I don't think the lifestyle is for me.

Humans are pretty much disease free now and can live much longer. Humans are also much cooler now too.

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ryder500 wrote...

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Well is it really that bad to have a female anatomy? It's very common for asari to be lesbians. Having boobs is kind of a pain in the neck, but it's nothing you can't get used to.


That isn't a problm for me, it's more so the whole idea of watching loved ones die etc. I'm pretty sure that its frowned upon in Asari culture for two Asari to mate with eachother or something like that? It would be cool to live for that long, but I don't think the lifestyle is for me.

Humans are pretty much disease free now and can live much longer. Humans are also much cooler now too.


It's an interesting situation for Asari and were it not fiction it'd make an interesting psychological study. Why is it really frowned on to mate with other Asari? Given that they obviously developed to their advanced long lived selves before they started mating with aliens, it can't be that bad for their gene pool. But perhaps spending most of 1000 years with one person is just not something that can really work out despite what we'd like to believe about our love lives. So for an Asari they don't have to face that fact, as long as they are mating with a species who are much shorter lived. Those that still mate with other Asari's may be subconciously seen as a threat either to their illusion of eternal love (should those relationships not last the course) or to their excuses for not comiting to one of such a duration (should it be possible to sustain).

Not that speculating on the pschology of a fictional race really serves much purpose. Anyway, that's got nothing to do with Tali, aside from adding support to why Quarians make better love interests in a romantic sense (if not a reproductive one).

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gamer_girl wrote...

Well is it really that bad to have a female anatomy? It's very common for asari to be lesbians. Having boobs is kind of a pain in the neck, but it's nothing you can't get used to.


Lol. Or like, all of them (at least bi). I don't think they view gender the same way; being mono gendered and all it probably doesn't mean anything to them. As for me, it's not about the idea of losing my "equipment", more along the lines of the fact that I just don't like Asari very much in general. In addition to the negatives concerning lengthy lifespans, I wouldn't want a cuttlefish for a head, either. 

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Because pure asari children have a chance of being ardat yakshi. Kind of a similar reason to why it's frowned upon in human culture to have incestuous relationships because there's a higher chance the child will be lame.

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I'd probably still be human. Krogans are too aggressive, I don't have the discipline to be a turian, salarians are smart but I wouldn't want to live only 40 years, and asare aren't male (sorry gamer).

Being a quarian could be interesting, but only after they get the homeworld back. Living in an extremely crowded spaceship my whole life while being shunned by most of the galaxy isn't my idea of a good time.

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Why are we talking about Asari?

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XenoAlbedo wrote...

Why are we talking about Asari?

Someone asked what species you'd want to be, so the pros and cons of being asari came up.

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Because first we were talking about what species we would pursue if mass effect existed, and then it kind of segwayed into which species we would want to be. So far I'm the only one who said I would want to be an asari and other people wondered why, and then we started talking about ardat yakshi and all that jazz.

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gamer_girl wrote...

Because pure asari children have a chance of being ardat yakshi. Kind of a similar reason to why it's frowned upon in human culture to have incestuous relationships because there's a higher chance the child will be lame.


Perhaps, but how many thousands of years did they have no choice but to reproduce with other Asari? The genetic condition is actually very rare and you could easily avoid mating with another Asari with the same condition by surveying their genes beforehand. It seems a bit excessive to rule out mating with an entire race due to the fact that it would be technically possible to have a child with a genetic abnormality if you did. On earth they would call it Eugenics to take it to such extremes, and that is frowned on (to say the least).

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Fenrisfil wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

Because pure asari children have a chance of being ardat yakshi. Kind of a similar reason to why it's frowned upon in human culture to have incestuous relationships because there's a higher chance the child will be lame.


Perhaps, but how many thousands of years did they have no choice but to reproduce with other Asari? The genetic condition is actually very rare and you could easily avoid mating with another Asari with the same condition by surveying their genes beforehand. It seems a bit excessive to rule out mating with an entire race due to the fact that it would be technically possible to have a child with a genetic abnormality if you did. On earth they would call it Eugenics to take it to such extremes, and that is frowned on (to say the least).

I think it's mostly a cultural thing. The asari feel it "broadens" their diversity to mate with other cultures, and over time mating with other asari developed a stigma (remember that the asari were one of the first space-faring races in this cycle, so they had a lot of time to develop the taboo).

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I don't know about you, but I wouldn't want to place type of disorder on my own child. They could never experience life to their fullest. Never able to have intimacy the way asari need it. That would be an incredibly lonely 1000 years. Even if it's highly unlikely for a pure asari to be an ardat yakshi (lookin' at you Samara, you were so unlucky ya had 3 of em) the chance is still there. And with something that life ruining, it isn't worth the risk.

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*Ahem* Sorry, must stay on topic. I get sidetracked easily when faced with a theoretical curiosity. Mordin would understand.

Perhaps we should return to speaking about Quarian culture instead. It's interesting that while Gamer_Girl was the only person to want to be Asari, Quarians were no more popular.

So what is it about Quarians that puts you off? I can understand the suit, though actually it has some advantages. The persecution wouldn't be great either.

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gamer_girl wrote...

Because first we were talking about what species we would pursue if mass effect existed, and then it kind of segwayed into which species we would want to be. So far I'm the only one who said I would want to be an asari and other people wondered why, and then we started talking about ardat yakshi and all that jazz.


you just want to be an Asari dancer, absolutely nothing wrong with that :D

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Given that quarians no longer had huge immunity problems and could go without the suit with no problems, I would totally be a quarian. But the thing is they don't, so asari is the next best option.

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@Krabs damn you saw right through me didn't you... :P

Just jks just jks.

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Fenrisfil wrote...

So what is it about Quarians that puts you off? I can understand the suit, though actually it has some advantages. The persecution wouldn't be great either.

Living on crowded space ships, mostly. I live in Tokyo and that's bad enough with the crowds and cramped living spaces. The Migrant Fleet would be even worse.

Living on Rannoch wouldn't be so bad (as a quarian, presumably I'd have no problems with the heat).

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You live in Tokyo? Damn dude you are so cool. You can help me with my Japanese then. :P

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this one wants to be a "Big Stupid Jellyfish" 

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XxIveGotKrabsxX wrote...

this one wants to be a "Big Stupid Jellyfish" 

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You live in Tokyo? Damn dude you are so cool. You can help me with my Japanese then. :P

I'm afraid my Japanese isn't that great. I'm better at programming languages than real languages. Image IPB

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I don't know about you, but I wouldn't want to place type of disorder on my own child. They could never experience life to their fullest. Never able to have intimacy the way asari need it. That would be an incredibly lonely 1000 years. Even if it's highly unlikely for a pure asari to be an ardat yakshi (lookin' at you Samara, you were so unlucky ya had 3 of em) the chance is still there. And with something that life ruining, it isn't worth the risk.


Reminds me of the arguing couple in ME1 whose child had a small risk of a genetic condition. But anyway, I understand your fears. But there are always possibilities of your child ending up with a terrible genetic condition (at least without scientific involvement in the womb, which I don't have a problem with but some do), at some point there is always a risk. I do feel for Samara though. :(

Anyway, enough of that. Let's agree to disagree and get back on topic. :)