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knight5923 wrote...

Would anyone be that upset if Tali's suit remained more or less the same as in ME2? I mean, that suit was pretty remarkable:wub:

Also, in the gameplay demo, Mordin seemed to be wearing his ME2 gear, so maybe we'll just get some more loyalty outfits:huh:

I wouldn't be upset, but I'm not worried. I know I will like her new suit.

About Mordin, her ME2 appearance is probably a placeholder.

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Gust4v wrote...

knight5923 wrote...

Would anyone be that upset if Tali's suit remained more or less the same as in ME2? I mean, that suit was pretty remarkable:wub:

Also, in the gameplay demo, Mordin seemed to be wearing his ME2 gear, so maybe we'll just get some more loyalty outfits:huh:

I wouldn't be upset, but I'm not worried. I know I will like her new suit.

About Mordin, her ME2 appearance is probably a placeholder.

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^LOL

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Swordfish56 wrote...

AVPen, and anyone else interested about the whole possiblity of having to fight your own squadmates...

I can't link you to the direct video but...

go to

http://www.bioware.com/biowaretv

Click on video at the bottom "Mass Effect 3 Live Fri Jul 22 2011 05:09:18"

and skip to 30:28 and listen for about 1 minute.

Much oblidged.
As expected, though, he doesn't really give much info on squadmate permanence (big surprise... <_< ), apart that there may be "Loyalty Conflicts" and "Wrex on Virmire" situations for your squad members and that part of it is based on the storyline while the other part is based on your decisions. 

All I can say is the same thing that I said before: if they pull some sort of 'storyline' excuse as to why Tali has to leave Shepard's squad for the majority or even minority of the game without allowing the player a choice/decision that allows her to stay with you, I'm gonna flip a gasket. :bandit:

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sitesunseen wrote...

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As much as I hate to say it, I would choose the geth over the quarians if only one could fight the reapers. Sorry Tali.


Why would anyone choose the Geth?

Some would choose the Geth because of their strength and numbers against the Reapers.


Geth do have the advantage in that regard. The geth can fight with no fear, if they die they just upload into a new platform, and their ships are not falling apart at the seams.

Honestly unless the Quarians pull some sort of Deus Ex Machina out of their ass, the Geth are the better option for a combat role. The best the Quarians can offer is logistics and maintnence. (which the Geth can offer as well)

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Gust4v wrote...
*snip snip*


ROFL Didn't know the game could remember so much burnt marks to the wall like that. Nice. =]

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Lezlie.Shep wrote...

Gust4v wrote...
*snip snip*


ROFL Didn't know the game could remember so much burnt marks to the wall like that. Nice. =]


PC version could, Xbox version not a chance.:bandit:

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Not being able to choose which squadmates can stay with shepherd throughout the game would suck. I would flip to if tali has to go and the player has no say in it. I just hope that won't happen. Being the end of shepherds story hopefully we can hold on to whoever you romanced for the majority of the game.

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sitesunseen wrote...

Kaiser_Wilhelm wrote...
Why would anyone choose the Geth?

Some would choose the Geth because of their strength and numbers against the Reapers.


On the ground, I'd absolutely agree, Geth would likely be the best fighting force. However, with the exception of Shep himself (because he's the badass main character), I don't think any individual(s) could actually take on a Reaper/Reapers on foot.
With that in mind, the Geth's battleship numbers are more or less unknown, while the Quarians have the largest fleet in the galaxy.
So, in my mind, if I'm going up against the Reapers, I'd much rather have the Quarian armada at my back than the Geth's ground forces, with would likely equate to a colony of ants nipping at the Reapers' feet.
That's just my reasoning, tho:)

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knight5923 wrote...

sitesunseen wrote...

Kaiser_Wilhelm wrote...
Why would anyone choose the Geth?

Some would choose the Geth because of their strength and numbers against the Reapers.


On the ground, I'd absolutely agree, Geth would likely be the best fighting force. However, with the exception of Shep himself (because he's the badass main character), I don't think any individual(s) could actually take on a Reaper/Reapers on foot.
With that in mind, the Geth's battleship numbers are more or less unknown, while the Quarians have the largest fleet in the galaxy.
So, in my mind, if I'm going up against the Reapers, I'd much rather have the Quarian armada at my back than the Geth's ground forces, with would likely equate to a colony of ants nipping at the Reapers' feet.
That's just my reasoning, tho:)


Largest fleet sure, but not of military vessles. Most are around three centuries old, others were derelict ships salvaged, and yet others were decomissioned purchased by the Quarians.

They have a large fleet, too bad most of it is nothing more than flying scrap. 

I love the Quarians, but if a modern fleet has trouble taking on one reaper... The flotilla is just going to be scrap when facing a legion of reapers.

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It's a new game, it is the climax of the series. Every character should get a badass and cool new outfit.

Recycling Tali's model from ME2 would be cheap.

Nashiktal wrote...

I love the Quarians, but if a modern
fleet has trouble taking on one reaper... The flotilla is just going to
be scrap when facing a legion of reapers.


They'd be best suited to logistical support maybe.

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Were there any references in the codex about the fleet having pure military vessels(ones without civilians)?

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Nashiktal wrote...

Largest fleet sure, but not of military vessles. Most are around three centuries old, others were derelict ships salvaged, and yet others were decomissioned purchased by the Quarians.

They have a large fleet, too bad most of it is nothing more than flying scrap. 

I love the Quarians, but if a modern fleet has trouble taking on one reaper... The flotilla is just going to be scrap when facing a legion of reapers.

To be fair, I'b bet the majority of space fairing vessels collectively owned by each race are also civilian.

If you were to count every spaceship owned by (random example) the human race, you'll probably find that most of them don't even have guns, unlike Quarian civilian ships. Also, if the Alliance navy had to protect every single one of their ships like the Quarians, they would probably be streched just as thin.

Lets forget about using civillian ships for a moment and consider the just Quarian navy. If it was to be freed of the burden of protecting all civilian ships in the Migrant Fleet (which would be the case if they get a world to shelter their non-combatants, like every other race), it would be much more practical.

Remember that it is said in the codex the Quarians have rebuilt their navy since the Morning War and that their warships number in the "hundreds". The Quarian navy may look insignificant when compared to tens of thousands of civilian ships it has to protect, but by itself it is still huge and worth having on our side.

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That fully depends on what classes as a Warship though. If all they had were one or two Capitals, a handful of Frigates and the rest fighter style craft on the Capitals then you havent got much to go off, afterall, a fleet of Capitals, is far better than a fleet of Fighters, especially if they all turned out to be scouts.

Needs clarification on what there is methinks.

(and yes I'm playing devils advocate on this).

Modifié par Evil_Sarevok, 24 juillet 2011 - 08:13 .


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Droppin' in to say hi. What's goin' down people?

Also, was surfing around DA and found this. Quite original I must say with an exotic attractiveness.
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That one isn't bad at all, though I loath turian-inspired quarians. It shows a lack of understanding of biology on the part of the creator.

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Yeah, I like that one. Looks alien, and yet not overly sexualised. But I don't think it looks like a turian at all Saphra. Or are you referring to another concept?

And Ascension mentioned the quarians having some ships designed for fighting. Cruisers I think were because one of them was going to go into exploration, and had some fighters with it I believe.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

That one isn't bad at all, though I loath turian-inspired quarians. It shows a lack of understanding of biology on the part of the creator.


I'm not familiar with the "turian-inspired quarians", got any examples?

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i hope tali and quarians in general have hair. just becuz every other race is bald.

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Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

Yeah, I like that one. Looks alien, and yet not overly sexualised. But I don't think it looks like a turian at all Saphra.


She has gray skin and what look like scales to me. The blotches along her hair-line remind me of turian plates.

So I think she's turian inspired.

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AVPen wrote...

Swordfish56 wrote...

Watching a recording of the ME3 livestream, I picked up on how it was said that characters can disapprove of your actions (nothing new) and leave you...and you might be forced to fight them even.

Applied to Tali, I wouldn't be surprised if she left your squad if you side with the Geth or made some decision to the serious detriment of the Migrant Fleet.

You wouldn't happen to have a link to that recording, would you? (haven't seen any of the new ME3 ComicCon videos yet)

If this whole "permanence" issue for ME3 squadmates (which BioWare is incessantly dragging their feet in explaining about...) is based on the player's choices and decisions in the game (as well as possibly the loyalty missions from ME2), then that will be pretty much what I had hoped the squad system of ME3 would be and it would be something I could tolerate and accept because those elements would be decided from MY choices and decisions throughout the series.

My biggest fear right now is that such choices as to who is or isn't in your squad will be taken away from the player's control and instead be predetermined by BW writers' preferences. If they write some sort of "convienence" of a plot point where Tali is a member or your squad for parts of the game, only to leave the Normandy  permanently without  the player having any choice or decision available to keep her on the squad, I really will lose it :pinched: Tali, just like Garrus, has been a member of Shepard's team from the very beginning and was one of only two squadmates to be with Shepard for both ME1 and ME2 - in that sense, they are just as imporant as Liara or the VS  (and in my opinion, even moreso), and their roles to the story and to Shepard's team should not be neutered from the game just because BW shot themselves in the foot by making every character in ME2 killable. <_<


This and especially bolded part.

If BW is going to make a situation, where your squad members would permanently leave, they should really give players a chance to prevent the whole issue. And even if it comes that Tali for example would leave Normandy permanently, it should still be because of choices the player had made.

Also if BW is going to make (as it seems) some characters disapprove your actions and possibly leave because of those, I really hope that it would apply to every single character, including Liara and VS (sadly I think that Vega would be only permanent character. He won't leave, except if he dies). I so don't want situation, where Tali and Garrus could possible leave permanently from Normandy, but there is no such possibility for Liara and/or VS. If BW is going to make some characters leave, then they should make that option for every single character.

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Runescapeguy9 wrote...

knight5923 wrote...
Would anyone be that upset if Tali's suit remained more or less the same as in ME2? I mean, that suit was pretty remarkable:wub:

NO! I would absolutely love it to stay the same.


This.

Though it does seems that BW is going to make some changes. After all it does seems that they have or at least planned to change every character. So, it's more than likely there are some change in Tali's case too.

I just hope that what ever changes BW might make, those are explicable reasons. I really don't want that they change Tali and her looks just because they have already changed everyone else or just for the sake of appearances.

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Nashiktal wrote...

Largest fleet sure, but not of military vessles. Most are around three centuries old, others were derelict ships salvaged, and yet others were decomissioned purchased by the Quarians.

They have a large fleet, too bad most of it is nothing more than flying scrap. 

I love the Quarians, but if a modern fleet has trouble taking on one reaper... The flotilla is just going to be scrap when facing a legion of reapers.

To be fair, I'b bet the majority of space fairing vessels collectively owned by each race are also civilian.

If you were to count every spaceship owned by (random example) the human race, you'll probably find that most of them don't even have guns, unlike Quarian civilian ships. Also, if the Alliance navy had to protect every single one of their ships like the Quarians, they would probably be streched just as thin.

Lets forget about using civillian ships for a moment and consider the just Quarian navy. If it was to be freed of the burden of protecting all civilian ships in the Migrant Fleet (which would be the case if they get a world to shelter their non-combatants, like every other race), it would be much more practical.

Remember that it is said in the codex the Quarians have rebuilt their navy since the Morning War and that their warships number in the "hundreds". The Quarian navy may look insignificant when compared to tens of thousands of civilian ships it has to protect, but by itself it is still huge and worth having on our side.


Not to mention that, if Quarians will get their homeworld back and that way civilians to safety, they can use not only navy, but their civilian ships too. Also if you won't need those civilian ship for women and children, those civilian ships could be quite easily supply with better weaponry and shielding. And because of Quarians technical experties as a whole, it wouldn't be that difficult and definitely much easier for them  than for any other race.

So, it's possible that you could get full force of Quarian +50k fleet in your side and all of them could have  medicore weaponry and shielding. And that would be much better than any other race (except Geth maybe) could provide.

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We've always been at the mercy of the writers. That isn't going to change.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

We've always been at the mercy of the writers. That isn't going to change.

True. But at least this is a community where the fans have a voice. One way or another.

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Its cool that Bioware listens to their fans and wants input on how to make the experience better for the player, instead of force feeding us garbage. Thats why we stay loyal, and they know it.
In regards to tali's possible suit modification I would like to change the color of her visor. along with a civilian type suit when not in battle.