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#2926
da_hizz_nizz

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The Hizz is back. And I want a blue visor for Tali in ME3, hell how bout some blue in her suit BW. gotta love blue
http://t2.gstatic.co...Cg5gG3xssEJcFvQ

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I know its been linked before, but I think it deserves to be repeated.
This is my new favorite concept.
There are no words...

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Saphra Deden wrote...

We've always been at the mercy of the writers. That isn't going to change.


That's true.

But the point is that there should this illusion of that player would have change to make all of those choices, even if they all have been desided beforehand. But if they even take that illusion of choices away, then people are goin to be disappointed, at least in ME and other RPG games.

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Spartanburger wrote...

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I know its been linked before, but I think it deserves to be repeated.
This is my new favorite concept.
There are no words...

I like... except for her lack of nose and fish eyes

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Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

True. But at least this is a community where the fans have a voice. One way or another.


You know what? I don't think Bioware should listen to your voice or even my voice beyond asking our input concerning game play decisions.

When it comes to the story it should be up to Bioware.

Do not let the fans write the story or even affect the story in any way. Ever. They will ruin it.

Frankly, I don't even think Tali should have been a squadmate in ME2. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed having her there, but her presence was ultimately rather pointless. She has no actual motivation to be on the squad this time other than sudden Shepard ****ship flung into the game.

I'd have rather she just has a cameo (or even just a mention) and the arc with her father could be saved for the next game and given a bigger role because she'd be guaranteed to be around instead of killed off in a gimmicky suicide mission.

ME2 was kind of a waste of her character.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

True. But at least this is a community where the fans have a voice. One way or another.


You know what? I don't think Bioware should listen to your voice or even my voice beyond asking our input concerning game play decisions.

When it comes to the story it should be up to Bioware.

Do not let the fans write the story or even affect the story in any way. Ever. They will ruin it.

Frankly, I don't even think Tali should have been a squadmate in ME2. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed having her there, but her presence was ultimately rather pointless. She has no actual motivation to be on the squad this time other than sudden Shepard ****ship flung into the game.

I'd have rather she just has a cameo (or even just a mention) and the arc with her father could be saved for the next game and given a bigger role because she'd be guaranteed to be around instead of killed off in a gimmicky suicide mission.

ME2 was kind of a waste of her character.



I disagree.  Putting the Tali trial in ME2 perfectly sets up a contining of that same story arc in 3.  I'd rather have a more fleshed out Tali/Legion portion of the story in ME3 rather than trying to cram extra in and not having the story nearly as tight or well done.

Not to mention it might have ended up that Tali, and possibly Legion, had noticeably more screen time in 3 than some of the other characters.  While I have no problem with that, it's unfair to fans of other characters.

Modifié par Link112, 24 juillet 2011 - 02:40 .


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I disagree.  Putting the Tali trial in ME2 perfectly sets up a contining of that same story arc in 3.


It should have just been saved for ME3. One rewritten sentence and Rael's weapon is ready to be deployed instead of in need of further refinement.

Tali was a waste in ME2 because she wasn't important to the main plot. She's only there to foreshadow the next game.

Frankly, I think the plot points surrounding her are what ME2 should have been about in the first place.

That's just it though: Tali isn't important, only the things around her.

In ME3 she could have been improtant again by being connected to several Admirals, people who we need on our side. However thanks to ME2 and its Suicide Mission she can't be that important because there will be versions of the game where she isn't even present. So her role becomes largely interchangable.

I don't buy for a minute that Bioware is going to have wildly diverging paths in the game. They're full of crap. If that were true they woudln't have made Cerberus into a universal enemy. A decision they likely made in response to the voices of so many people on these forums.

Same reason they brought Tali back in ME2, despite her having no real reason to be in the game.

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I want to see how things work with my Tali romance she is so sweet, and a little dirty. I want to see her face she has to be sexy!

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sg1fan75 wrote...

I want to see how things work with my Tali romance she is so sweet, and a little dirty. I want to see her face she has to be sexy!


Modifié par da_hizz_nizz, 24 juillet 2011 - 03:48 .


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I imagine Tali is much more humanoid than most of the depictions of her imply. Perhaps mostly human but much more pale due to the Quarian suit life, and slightly thinner eyes as Tali has. Spartan's depiction most accurately fits my idea of her.

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Very nice, best one I've seen yet.  Colors seem alittle monotone for an arid planet.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Link112 wrote...

I disagree.  Putting the Tali trial in ME2 perfectly sets up a contining of that same story arc in 3.


It should have just been saved for ME3. One rewritten sentence and Rael's weapon is ready to be deployed instead of in need of further refinement.

Tali was a waste in ME2 because she wasn't important to the main plot. She's only there to foreshadow the next game.

Frankly, I think the plot points surrounding her are what ME2 should have been about in the first place.

That's just it though: Tali isn't important, only the things around her.

.....


From my perspective, Tali is as important as any other NPC in ME
and we've other squad mates which is hopelessly disconnected from the main plot imho...

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Like all of the other characters? I mean some background NPCs have a bigger connection with the fight against the collectors like the one that looses a brother on a colony for example.

Garrus is Shepard's bud, hence his presence. Tali is actually the one singular plot thread linking ME1 - ME2 - ME3. Her trial isn't important to the plot of ME2, it's important to the plot of the entire Trilogy. Big difference there.

Also I think I've decided it's safer for my sanity just to ignore Saphra.

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Cheese of Borg wrote...



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Very nice, best one I've seen yet.  Colors seem alittle monotone for an arid planet.


Arid planet with a darker day cycle, not so much... My problem is the face is to broad and the nose to small to fit in her mask.

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If Quarians were to have hair, that is what I would imagine Tali's hair to look like.

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Well Quarians have to have some sort of tough exterior like scales of some sort. Grunt said it was hard to penetrate a quarians outer layer to reach the spine.

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James2912 wrote...

Well Quarians have to have some sort of tough exterior like scales of some sort. Grunt said it was hard to penetrate a quarians outer layer to reach the spine.


Am I the only one who though he was talking about the suit?

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Grunt was talking about severing the spine... it could have been the suit but my personal theory is that Quarians have either a secondary skeleton of cartilage that protects parts of their body or something else. I do not believe quarians have either plates or scales.

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StellarMagic wrote...

Grunt was talking about severing the spine... it could have been the suit but my personal theory is that Quarians have either a secondary skeleton of cartilage that protects parts of their body or something else. I do not believe quarians have either plates or scales.


I know he meant severing the spine.  I just though that it was the suit that made them harder to kill.  I guess I should've been more clear.

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I like the picture on this page of the forum. It needs a little more colour and a tweak of the facial proportions, but overall, I would be happy with that. The style of the hair works really well!

Regarding the question of whether it is better to have the Geth or the Quarians on your side, I think the Geth in general would be stronger. However, they have a few major weak points that could render their strengths a severe disadvantage. The fact that their knowledge is 'centralized' poses a serious risk, as opposed to the 'individuality' of organics like the Quarians. One well placed bomb on the Geth's central brain will cause major problems for the Geth. Also, they seem to be susceptible to 'computer viruses'. Assuming they execute instructions through a processor, writing a virus that forces an illegal instruction to be executed would cause them to 'lock up' (or just send them a virus containing Microsoft Vista. It will only be a matter of time before the Geth become gibbering wrecks!). The bottom line is, while the Geth may be stronger, that strength comes with several handicaps (i.e. susceptibility to EMP's, communication jamming, society based on a centralized brain, etc).

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GoG ToXiC wrote...

StellarMagic wrote...

Grunt was talking about severing the spine... it could have been the suit but my personal theory is that Quarians have either a secondary skeleton of cartilage that protects parts of their body or something else. I do not believe quarians have either plates or scales.


I know he meant severing the spine.  I just though that it was the suit that made them harder to kill.  I guess I should've been more clear.


Its possible, I guess we'll find out in ME3 since I believe it was confirmed we will see tali's face. 

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James2912 wrote...

Well Quarians have to have some sort of tough exterior like scales of some sort. Grunt said it was hard to penetrate a quarians outer layer to reach the spine.

Yeah, Grunt said that quarians 'weren't squishy.' It could mean their suits, but I alwas got the impression that it accounted for their bodies too. Humans can wear armour just as tough, and Grunt had them in the 'squishy' category.

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I think that the grunt line was put in just to toy with us.
1) It makes us think and debate on it.
2) If/When BioWare releases what a Quarian actually looks like, regardless of whether or not it's hard or soft skinned, the line still fits. If Quarians have soft skin then it means that young Grunt was talking about their suits (he's talking about battle anyway. He'd be trained on how to deal with Quarians in armor/suits even if Okeer implanted what Quarians looked like in his memory).
If Quarians have harder skin, then Grunt was talking about their skin.

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James2912 wrote...

Well Quarians have to have some sort of tough exterior like scales of some sort. Grunt said it was hard to penetrate a quarians outer layer to reach the spine.


Actually, Grunt said Quarians were not as "soft" (meaning physically fragile) as Humans, Salarians and Asari.

"...you're all soft. Quarians... not so much"

He could have meant that their spines are harder to sever, but he doesn't say why specifically. Grunt doesn't make clear whether the Quarians supposed toughness is due to their suits or their natural biology, so that's open to interpretation.

Then again Grunt could also have just been making a comment about Quarian durability compared to the other races and about how it takes more force to subue one, though this is unlikely.

Also, it has not been confirmed (at least officially) that we'll see Tali's face. Everytime Casey answers that question he says we'll have to wait until the game is released to find out.

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Tasha vas Nar Rayya wrote...

James2912 wrote...

Well Quarians have to have some sort of tough exterior like scales of some sort. Grunt said it was hard to penetrate a quarians outer layer to reach the spine.

Yeah, Grunt said that quarians 'weren't squishy.' It could mean their suits, but I alwas got the impression that it accounted for their bodies too. Humans can wear armour just as tough, and Grunt had them in the 'squishy' category.


Grunt's line was someting like that, "You're soft, all of you. Humans, Asari. Quarians...not so much. Turians, you have to work the blade around a little, I guess...don't see much point to it though. "

well, i think it could be the suits but those words aren't giving out to much info.