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[forthary]

bazzag wrote...

If Tali was in a shakespeare play, which character would she be?

You'd have to be more specific as to what play it is.  DO NOT use Hamlet.

[Dilandau3000]

Ralix_57 wrote...

I read on the Mass Effect wiki that the creators were indeed going for a "Virgin Mary" motif with Tali originally. Of course, I'm sure they dropped that perspective later on in the series, judging from her behavior and comments in ME2 and 3. XD

Also, good morning.

I see, I found it on the page about quarians rather than the page about Tali. I never made that connection, but then I'm not a Christian.

I don't think her personality is in any way "virginal" in ME2 and especially 3, but I can see how that was part of the original concept.

[lomifeh]

Ralix_57 wrote...

I read on the Mass Effect wiki that the creators were indeed going for a "Virgin Mary" motif with Tali originally. Of course, I'm sure they dropped that perspective later on in the series, judging from her behavior and comments in ME2 and 3. XD

Also, good morning.

With Tali they fell victim to what a number of tv writers have found.  What is intended to be a minor character takes on a life of it's own and because of the fans the role increases.  Hence her change.  I was looking at how her look progresses through the series and I was struck by how naturally it evolved over time to match her character arc.

[Fenrisfil]

forthary wrote...

zim1017 wrote...

Indeed, might just be a coincidence though, she could likely resemble many medieval (I know the virgin Mary is not medieval though), women, mostly nobility that wore such hoods, especially if they were purple.

I thought that the artists for Tali wanted her to have qualities similar to the virign mary and make her motherly, but that's about it.  Might be on the wiki.

It's too bad there's no picture of Tali with angel wings, the picture would make her look great. 

gamer_girl wrote...

Ah I like Shakespeare.
What's in a name? That which we call a rose by any other name would be just as sweet...

I remember reading the Macbeth play from ShakeSpare and playing as Macbeth.  Ah, the role fit me like a glove, as if there was one thing we both had in common, it's that we both were freaks.  Oh, and that we tend to plan as we go and make mistakes.  Out, out brief candle!

I can quote huge chunks of Macbeth. It's awesome. No point doing it via text though, becomes somewhat less impressive. But yeah love that play. The Tempest is pretty awesome too and Midsummer nights dream (though I admit I didn't get into that until it featured in the Sandman).

[Nkromelow]

Alright, so I did some more stuff in paint.

Is there anything I should add or change?

[bazzag]

forthary wrote...

bazzag wrote...

If Tali was in a shakespeare play, which character would she be?

You'd have to be more specific as to what play it is.  DO NOT use Hamlet.

I'd never use Hamlet. Thats all Elcor!

I mean in general. Out of all the plays that Shakespeare wrote, which character suits Tali best?

[zim1017]

Fenrisfil wrote...

zim1017 wrote...

darthrevaninlight wrote...

Dilandou, that poem was beautiful. Fitting perfectly.

Also, I disagree with the assertion that tali is a people pleaser. I think its more that she has a strong sense of familial duty.

And, tali was based loosely and partially off the virgin Mary, designwise. very much virginal imo

Wait wait wait, how do you know she was loosely based off the Virgin Mary? This just makes me very curious.

Didn't you know the Virgin Mary was a shotgun enthusiast too?

I did not find that in any of the scriptures no.

[bazzag]

Nkromelow wrote...

Alright, so I did some more stuff in paint.

Is there anything I should add or change?

LOTS OF SPECULATION FOR EVERYONE!

[bazzag]

zim1017 wrote...

Fenrisfil wrote...

zim1017 wrote...

darthrevaninlight wrote...

Dilandou, that poem was beautiful. Fitting perfectly.

Also, I disagree with the assertion that tali is a people pleaser. I think its more that she has a strong sense of familial duty.

And, tali was based loosely and partially off the virgin Mary, designwise. very much virginal imo

Wait wait wait, how do you know she was loosely based off the Virgin Mary? This just makes me very curious.

Didn't you know the Virgin Mary was a shotgun enthusiast too?

I did not find that in any of the scriptures no.

Must be in one of the cut gospels...

[Fenrisfil]

bazzag wrote...

If Tali was in a shakespeare play, which character would she be?

Well Juliet is the obvious one, but I actually find she reminds me a bit of Miranda in the Tempest.

[zim1017]

Ugh, I thought I could get away with being an ignorant plebian on this thread. I don't know any Shakespear...

[Dilandau3000]

Fenrisfil wrote...

bazzag wrote...

If Tali was in a shakespeare play, which character would she be?

Well Juliet is the obvious one, but I actually find she reminds me a bit of Miranda in the Tempest.

Juliet is the obvious one? Because that's the ending that Mass Effect really needs: a double suicide...

EDIT: I'm top again?

Modifié par Dilandau3000, 03 avril 2012 - 04:30 .

[lomifeh]

Fenrisfil wrote...

bazzag wrote...

If Tali was in a shakespeare play, which character would she be?

Well Juliet is the obvious one, but I actually find she reminds me a bit of Miranda in the Tempest.

The problem is most of the characters end up dying.  Probably someone in midsummer's night dream or much ado about nothing so she doesn't die

[Fenrisfil]

bazzag wrote...

zim1017 wrote...

Fenrisfil wrote...

Didn't you know the Virgin Mary was a shotgun enthusiast too?

I did not find that in any of the scriptures no.

Must be in one of the cut gospels...

It was in one of the optional DLCs.

[bazzag]

zim1017 wrote...

Ugh, I thought I could get away with being an ignorant plebian on this thread. I don't know any Shakespear...

I don't know enough. Have the works...never read em. As an aspiring Actor, thats not good

*Hangs head in Shame*

[lomifeh]

zim1017 wrote...

Ugh, I thought I could get away with being an ignorant plebian on this thread. I don't know any Shakespear...

It's fine, Volus education isn't big on human plays I imagine.

[Dilandau3000]

lomifeh wrote...

Fenrisfil wrote...

bazzag wrote...

If Tali was in a shakespeare play, which character would she be?

Well Juliet is the obvious one, but I actually find she reminds me a bit of Miranda in the Tempest.

The problem is most of the characters end up dying.  Probably someone in midsummer's night dream or much ado about nothing so she doesn't die

Yes, none of the characters from any of Shakespeare's tragedies would fit (in point of fact, I can't think of any characters that fit at all, but anyway).

Modifié par Dilandau3000, 03 avril 2012 - 04:32 .

[bazzag]

Dilandau3000 wrote...

lomifeh wrote...

Fenrisfil wrote...

bazzag wrote...

If Tali was in a shakespeare play, which character would she be?

Well Juliet is the obvious one, but I actually find she reminds me a bit of Miranda in the Tempest.

The problem is most of the characters end up dying.  Probably someone in midsummer's night dream or much ado about nothing so she doesn't die

Yes, none of the characters from any of Shakespeare's tragedy's would fit (in point of fact, I can't think of any characters that fit at all, but anyway).

Maybe Tali just isn't Shakespearean material?

[lomifeh]

Fenrisfil wrote...

bazzag wrote...

zim1017 wrote...

Fenrisfil wrote...

Didn't you know the Virgin Mary was a shotgun enthusiast too?

I did not find that in any of the scriptures no.

Must be in one of the cut gospels...

It was in one of the optional DLCs.

That the one that came with the Holy Hand Grenade ?

[Fenrisfil]

Dilandau3000 wrote...

Fenrisfil wrote...

bazzag wrote...

If Tali was in a shakespeare play, which character would she be?

Well Juliet is the obvious one, but I actually find she reminds me a bit of Miranda in the Tempest.

Juliet is the obvious one? Because that's the ending that Mass Effect really needs: a double suicide...

EDIT: I'm top again?

Well it'd still be better then the current ending and kind of fits, after all Bioware won't let them be together in life.

Good top pic btw.

[Ralix_57]

Took a class on Shakespeare last semester.

I would say Tali is most like... Oh, what's her name? In The Taming of the Shrew, there's a girl that 3 guys are trying to woo. She acts all naive and innocent, if a bit coy. In the end of the play, though, you actually find out she's very sarcastic, mischievous, and independent.

Sounds a bit like Tali. Starts out all nice and innocent, ends up all "I didn't come here just to look at the fish." XD

Modifié par Ralix_57, 03 avril 2012 - 04:35 .

[bazzag]

lomifeh wrote...

Fenrisfil wrote...

bazzag wrote...

zim1017 wrote...

Fenrisfil wrote...

Didn't you know the Virgin Mary was a shotgun enthusiast too?

I did not find that in any of the scriptures no.

Must be in one of the cut gospels...

It was in one of the optional DLCs.

That the one that came with the Holy Hand Grenade ?

Nah, it was the crucifix omniblade

[lomifeh]

Dilandau3000 wrote...
Yes, none of the characters from any of Shakespeare's tragedies would fit (in point of fact, I can't think of any characters that fit at all, but anyway).

I was waiting for someone to say ophelia so I could throttle them.

[Dilandau3000]

bazzag wrote...

Must be in one of the cut gospels...

They did cut some stuff from the bible at some point, iirc...

"How about the slavery bits? Or treating women like property? Or the comdemnation of homosexuality? Should we cut those?"
"No, of course not. The Church is a-okay with those things! But the bit where Mary thinks Jesus has become a zombie after rising from the dead and tries to kill him with a shotgun, that has to go."

[bazzag]

Ralix_57 wrote...

Took a class on Shakespeare last semester.

I would say Tali is most like... Oh, what's her name? In The Taming of the Shrew, there's a girl that 3 guys are trying to woo. She acts all naive and innocent, if a bit coy. In the end of the play, though, you actually find out she's very sarcastic, mischievous, and independent.

Sounds a bit like Tali. Starts out all nice and innocent, ends up all "I didn't come here just to look at the fish." XD

Is it Bianca?