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[Pride Demon]

Come one, come on... Let's not get worked up...
Here's something funny to try and cheer you up...

So this is what the epilogue meant by "... up among stars, where hamsters are giant and humans become legend..."


"Go for the eyes Tali! Go for the eyes!"

[GipsyDangeresque]

Legion definitely says that the Geth have what is the equivalent of a "memorial" or at least graveyard to all of the Quarians that died in the Morning War, that they are constantly working from orbit to help maintain the planet's environment and rebuild what was destroyed, and that Legion speaking for the Geth as a whole wishes to cease hostilities with the Quarians, but that the Geth can not solve for peace alone. This is fact.

"does not mean the geth "revere" their creators. Quite opposite, in fact."

No, it is not "quite the opposite." Most definitely not in fact, anyway. Perhaps revere is a strong word, but respect? Show some measure of compassion towards? Yes. It's definitely not the opposite, which would be outright enmity.


You made some good points on other fronts, though.

Tali might not be as important of a character as most of the supporting ones you listed, but I think it's essential that she does become one in order for the moniker of "Main Character" that Casey Hudson applied to her on his Twitter account in regards to ME3 to be legitimate. If not in regards to the plot, at least in regards to something significant to character development.

That brings me to the topic I wanted to suggest before I go to sleep: In what way should Tali's story be moved forward in Mass Effect 3? For example:
Mass Effect 1: Tali joins your team out of a sense of duty to stop the Reapers. Tali is on her Pilgrimage, this is the vessel of her character development.Mass Effect 2: Tali joins your team out of a sense of loyalty to you beyond doing work for the Fleet, even if it comes to working for the Fleet's enemies for Shepard. Tali is put on trial for Treason, this is the vessel of her character development.Mass Effect 3: Tali joins your team out of a sense of loyalty, and probably also because theReapersareherejesuschristthey'reactuallyhere. Tali _______________________________, and this is the vessel of her character development.

Speculate & fill in the blank.





I'm trying to think about what situation they put Tali's character into lore-wise that moves her forward and is interesting in a significant way that doesn't involve Admiralty. Bioware never lets party member characters just sit on their laurels and remain static, not in any of their RPGs yet even outside of Mass Effect. Tali's writer is once again Patrick Weekes, who is the same writer she had in the previous game. Weekes is writing for Mordin, Garrus and Tali for ME3, and I doubt Bioware has one of their main character writers writing three static characters with no new substance to them.

Modifié par Atemeus, 26 juillet 2011 - 10:01 .

[Pride Demon]

Atemeus wrote...

Perhaps revere is a strong word, but respect?

Actually there are hints the Geth did revere (and they may still do, but we don't know) the Quarians somehow...

Geth appear to have some kind of religious impulse about them (among other things calling dissenters "Heretics") and Legion, while talking about how the Geth have find their way, calls the Quarians their "gods"...
Legion: "We were created as labour for the Quarians, our memories will be archived after death. We are immortal. Our gods have disowned us. We must find our own reason for existing..."

Looking from this perpspective the Geth/Quarian war suddently sounds like the Titanomachy...

Modifié par Pride Demon, 26 juillet 2011 - 10:37 .

[arne1234]

I doubt they see the Quarians as gods, altough legion did say that he said it afther mentioning that organics are plagued by certain questions of existence and weaved them into religion and philosphy. The GEth on the other hand know how they came to be and know what happens afther they die.
I think they see the Quarians simply as their creators or perhaps a parent

[easyt3hremember]

Pride Demon wrote...

"Go for the eyes Tali! Go for the eyes!"

Shepard tried to run....but failed

[pathis87]

Pride Demon wrote...

Come one, come on... Let's not get worked up...
Here's something funny to try and cheer you up...

So this is what the epilogue meant by "... up among stars, where hamsters are giant and humans become legend..."


"Go for the eyes Tali! Go for the eyes!"

That just made my day lol

[Gust4v]

easyt3hremember wrote...

Shepard tried to run....but failed

He didn't even tried, the pounce was a surprise.

[Havoc10K]

That actually looks like a cat jump attack on him, looks funny though

[Webkahve]

[Webkahve]

from here http://general-greiv...eelah-244648049

I Should explain this one,
Remember after you recruit Tali?
She makes a comment about Shepard and Cerebus?
"If you need a grenade."

In ME3,
They proberly need to grenade Cerebus

CONNECTION!

[Webkahve]

Tali and thane,


Tali from comic con,

[Stanley Woo]

Let's try and keep the personal attacks out of the discussion, please. Thank you.

[Jedisociety]

Thank you for checking my report, Stanley. This topic was getting off hand a bit.

Modifié par Jedisociety, 26 juillet 2011 - 04:48 .

[Cheese of Borg]

If faced with it, would you save Tali or Legion?

[Art3m]

Webkahve wrote...

Pretty nice sketch I say!

[HellBovine]

Cheese of Borg wrote...

If faced with it, would you save Tali or Legion?

Tali of course, I mean can't Legion just download into a new body?

Modifié par HellBovine, 26 juillet 2011 - 07:18 .

[Jedisociety]

i would choose Tali of course, but it wouldn't let me sleep if i killed my 3rd favorite character.
If i had to choose Tali or Garrus to live at some point, then it would probably make me quit the game in frustration and think about it for some time.

[Spartanburger]

Cheese of Borg wrote...

If faced with it, would you save Tali or Legion?

Why can't we have both?

Modifié par Spartanburger, 26 juillet 2011 - 07:28 .

[T.Attwood]

Cheese of Borg wrote...

If faced with it, would you save Tali or Legion?

I'd have to save Tali...because she would be able to rebuild Legion out of a box of meccano and a couple of cans of WD40. This means by saving Tali, you can save both her and  Legion!

(Edit: I've only just seen your post, Hellbovine. Great minds think alike!)

Modifié par T.Attwood, 26 juillet 2011 - 07:38 .

[Webkahve]

Cheese of Borg wrote...

If faced with it, would you save Tali or Legion?

Tali of course.
The sentient-sympathetic-machinery thingy had no hold on me,
so geth are nothing more than a replacable, recoverable, reusable and disposable tool for my shep...