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[Sirithariel]

N7Kopper wrote...

Sirithariel wrote...

N7Kopper wrote...

Tali was never the only one for Shepard...
Just my favourite.
I can't hate on Liara, Ashley, Miranda, Jack, Kelly, Steve, or Kaidan after all.

Sirithariel wrote...

Gernbuster wrote...

Tali
is incredible strong, so many bad things happened to her and she always
got through it and she is the only one who trusted Shep from the very
beginning.(exept Anderson) And there is so much during ME to give back
to her.

I agree, I almost cried when I saw her suicide scene
on YouTube, I'll always either get both quarians and geth or pick
quarians and kill Legion because I can't bear to see Tali commit
suicide.

The fact that she doesn't try to fight you hurts more.
I mean Wrex gets evil with you (although Shep/Bailey still effortlessly beat him)
Legion attacks you as well.
But driving somebody to suicide and their last words amounting to "I don't hate you..."



Ouch.

I know, I don't think Tali will ever be able to truly hate Shepard.

The way she says, 'I'm sorry' and just falls back.

*left trigger*
PARAGON INTERRUPT HEROI...sm.
...

I think it's stupid that you can't save Tali there, what's the point of that interrupt?

[zim1017]

N7Kopper wrote...

Tali was never the only one for Shepard...
Just my favourite.
I can't hate on Liara, Ashley, Miranda, Jack, Kelly, Steve, or Kaidan after all.

Sirithariel wrote...

Gernbuster wrote...

Tali
is incredible strong, so many bad things happened to her and she always
got through it and she is the only one who trusted Shep from the very
beginning.(exept Anderson) And there is so much during ME to give back
to her.

I agree, I almost cried when I saw her suicide scene
on YouTube, I'll always either get both quarians and geth or pick
quarians and kill Legion because I can't bear to see Tali commit
suicide.

The fact that she doesn't try to fight you hurts more.
I mean Wrex gets evil with you (although Shep/Bailey still effortlessly beat him)
Legion attacks you as well.
But driving somebody to suicide and their last words amounting to "I don't hate you..."



Ouch.

Tali's suicide is probably the most tragic (individual) death in ME3, only comparable with if you let Samara die and kill Falere.

[Sirithariel]

zim1017 wrote...

N7Kopper wrote...

Tali was never the only one for Shepard...
Just my favourite.
I can't hate on Liara, Ashley, Miranda, Jack, Kelly, Steve, or Kaidan after all.

Sirithariel wrote...

Gernbuster wrote...

Tali
is incredible strong, so many bad things happened to her and she always
got through it and she is the only one who trusted Shep from the very
beginning.(exept Anderson) And there is so much during ME to give back
to her.

I agree, I almost cried when I saw her suicide scene
on YouTube, I'll always either get both quarians and geth or pick
quarians and kill Legion because I can't bear to see Tali commit
suicide.

The fact that she doesn't try to fight you hurts more.
I mean Wrex gets evil with you (although Shep/Bailey still effortlessly beat him)
Legion attacks you as well.
But driving somebody to suicide and their last words amounting to "I don't hate you..."



Ouch.

Tali's suicide is probably the most tragic (individual) death in ME3, only comparable with if you let Samara die and kill Falere.

I agree, somehow it's more meaningful than the others.

[zim1017]

Sirithariel wrote...

N7Kopper wrote...

Sirithariel wrote...

N7Kopper wrote...

Tali was never the only one for Shepard...
Just my favourite.
I can't hate on Liara, Ashley, Miranda, Jack, Kelly, Steve, or Kaidan after all.

Sirithariel wrote...

Gernbuster wrote...

Tali
is incredible strong, so many bad things happened to her and she always
got through it and she is the only one who trusted Shep from the very
beginning.(exept Anderson) And there is so much during ME to give back
to her.

I agree, I almost cried when I saw her suicide scene
on YouTube, I'll always either get both quarians and geth or pick
quarians and kill Legion because I can't bear to see Tali commit
suicide.

The fact that she doesn't try to fight you hurts more.
I mean Wrex gets evil with you (although Shep/Bailey still effortlessly beat him)
Legion attacks you as well.
But driving somebody to suicide and their last words amounting to "I don't hate you..."



Ouch.

I know, I don't think Tali will ever be able to truly hate Shepard.

The way she says, 'I'm sorry' and just falls back.

*left trigger*
PARAGON INTERRUPT HEROI...sm.
...

I think it's stupid that you can't save Tali there, what's the point of that interrupt?

I really don't think you'd want to save Tali in the long run, if she survived, she wouldn't be Tali anymore, but rather a Quarian Javik, essentially.

[Sirithariel]

Sirithariel wrote...

zim1017 wrote...

N7Kopper wrote...

Tali was never the only one for Shepard...
Just my favourite.
I can't hate on Liara, Ashley, Miranda, Jack, Kelly, Steve, or Kaidan after all.

Sirithariel wrote...

Gernbuster wrote...

Tali
is incredible strong, so many bad things happened to her and she always
got through it and she is the only one who trusted Shep from the very
beginning.(exept Anderson) And there is so much during ME to give back
to her.

I agree, I almost cried when I saw her suicide scene
on YouTube, I'll always either get both quarians and geth or pick
quarians and kill Legion because I can't bear to see Tali commit
suicide.

The fact that she doesn't try to fight you hurts more.
I mean Wrex gets evil with you (although Shep/Bailey still effortlessly beat him)
Legion attacks you as well.
But driving somebody to suicide and their last words amounting to "I don't hate you..."



Ouch.

Tali's suicide is probably the most tragic (individual) death in ME3, only comparable with if you let Samara die and kill Falere.

I agree, somehow it's more meaningful than the others.

Although Mordin's is quite sad too.

[Sirithariel]

zim1017 wrote...

Sirithariel wrote...

N7Kopper wrote...

Sirithariel wrote...

N7Kopper wrote...

Tali was never the only one for Shepard...
Just my favourite.
I can't hate on Liara, Ashley, Miranda, Jack, Kelly, Steve, or Kaidan after all.

Sirithariel wrote...

Gernbuster wrote...

Tali
is incredible strong, so many bad things happened to her and she always
got through it and she is the only one who trusted Shep from the very
beginning.(exept Anderson) And there is so much during ME to give back
to her.

I agree, I almost cried when I saw her suicide scene
on YouTube, I'll always either get both quarians and geth or pick
quarians and kill Legion because I can't bear to see Tali commit
suicide.

The fact that she doesn't try to fight you hurts more.
I mean Wrex gets evil with you (although Shep/Bailey still effortlessly beat him)
Legion attacks you as well.
But driving somebody to suicide and their last words amounting to "I don't hate you..."



Ouch.

I know, I don't think Tali will ever be able to truly hate Shepard.

The way she says, 'I'm sorry' and just falls back.

*left trigger*
PARAGON INTERRUPT HEROI...sm.
...

I think it's stupid that you can't save Tali there, what's the point of that interrupt?

I really don't think you'd want to save Tali in the long run, if she survived, she wouldn't be Tali anymore, but rather a Quarian Javik, essentially.

I guess so, I'll still never let her do it.

[Fenrisfil]

Morning. Thinking back I would say that I always had some level of attraction to Tali, but knowing that I could only romance Liara or Ash in ME1, never really though of it in detail until ME2. But it shows perhaps where my mind was that I didn't specifically romance one or the other of those, it just happened that I was slightly further ahead with Liara when the Normandy was grounded. From ME2 it was largely thanks to Kelly pointing out Tali's interest in me and I realized she was a LI so started taking notice in a big way, even though you have to wait quite a while before she brings it up herself. By the time she did, there was no way I was going to say no.

Modifié par Fenrisfil, 04 avril 2012 - 11:43 .

[Gernbuster]

Talis suicide scene was the worst videosequence I ever saw in my life. I was in the office and nearly cried =(

[Sirithariel]

Fenrisfil wrote...

Morning. Thinking back I would say that I always had some level of attraction to Tali, but knowing that I could only romance Liara or Ash in ME1, never really though of it in detail until ME2. But it shows perhaps where my mind was that I didn't specifically romance one or the other of those, it just happened that I was slightly further ahead with Liara when the Normandy was grounded. From ME2 it was largely thanks to Kelly pointing out Tali's interest in me and I realized she was a LI so started taking notice in a big way, even though you have to wait quite a while before she brings it up herself. By the time she did, there was no way I was going to say no.

Same here lol

[N7Kopper]

I don't let genocide happen.
To the point where my response to the hypothetical "you have a new ME3 game without imports. Quarians or geth?" would be this.
Now if only I could GM fiat the ending.

Modifié par N7Kopper, 04 avril 2012 - 11:45 .

[Sirithariel]

Gernbuster wrote...

Talis suicide scene was the worst videosequence I ever saw in my life. I was in the office and nearly cried =(

Same except I wasn't in an office :/

[Yuvero]

maybe because each other (Tali and Shep) suffered so much is the reason why their romance is so intense, is like shepard was always Tali's dream and it became real, this words are epic "you are real and MINE" 20 of 10 for this.

[Sirithariel]

N7Kopper wrote...

I wouldn't let that happen.
To the point where my response to the hypothetical "you have a new ME3 game without imports. Quarians or geth?" would be this.

Same, if I accidentally made Tali commit suicide I'd edit my save.

[zim1017]

Sirithariel wrote...

zim1017 wrote...

N7Kopper wrote...

Tali was never the only one for Shepard...
Just my favourite.
I can't hate on Liara, Ashley, Miranda, Jack, Kelly, Steve, or Kaidan after all.

Sirithariel wrote...

Gernbuster wrote...

Tali
is incredible strong, so many bad things happened to her and she always
got through it and she is the only one who trusted Shep from the very
beginning.(exept Anderson) And there is so much during ME to give back
to her.

I agree, I almost cried when I saw her suicide scene
on YouTube, I'll always either get both quarians and geth or pick
quarians and kill Legion because I can't bear to see Tali commit
suicide.

The fact that she doesn't try to fight you hurts more.
I mean Wrex gets evil with you (although Shep/Bailey still effortlessly beat him)
Legion attacks you as well.
But driving somebody to suicide and their last words amounting to "I don't hate you..."



Ouch.

Tali's suicide is probably the most tragic (individual) death in ME3, only comparable with if you let Samara die and kill Falere.

I agree, somehow it's more meaningful than the others.

Actually it's the opposite, which is what makes it so tragic. Mordin dying to cure the genophage was extremely meaningful, both for the Krogan and himself, so that was almost beautiful in a way. Tali's death is just pure desperation, loss, the result of the loss of her people, it's not a meaningful sacrifice.

[Sirithariel]

Yuvero wrote...

maybe because each other (Tali and Shep) suffered so much is the reason why their romance is so intense, is like shepard was always Tali's dream and it became real, this words are epic "you are real and MINE" 20 of 10 for this.

Thumbs up for this post, I'm playing through all three games again and I'm romancing Liara in first and Tali in 2 and 3.

[N7Kopper]

zim1017 wrote...
Actually it's the opposite, which is what makes it so tragic. Mordin dying to cure the genophage was extremely meaningful, both for the krogan and himself, so that was almost beautiful in a way. Tali's death is just pure desperation, loss, the result of the loss of her people, it's not a meaningful sacrifice.

Shoot Mordin in the back.
Watch his death.
How he struggles on heroic willpower (any Shepard who does this is no hero.) but ultimately fails...
Tell me they're not similar.

Modifié par N7Kopper, 04 avril 2012 - 11:48 .

[Sirithariel]

N7Kopper wrote...

zim1017 wrote...
Actually it's the opposite, which is what makes it so tragic. Mordin dying to cure the genophage was extremely meaningful, both for the Krogan and himself, so that was almost beautiful in a way. Tali's death is just pure desperation, loss, the result of the loss of her people, it's not a meaningful sacrifice.

Shoot Mordin in the back.
Watch his death.
Tell me they're not similar.

I actually did cure the genophage, I told them about the dalatrass.

[N7Kopper]

Sirithariel wrote...

N7Kopper wrote...

zim1017 wrote...
Actually it's the opposite, which is what makes it so tragic. Mordin dying to cure the genophage was extremely meaningful, both for the Krogan and himself, so that was almost beautiful in a way. Tali's death is just pure desperation, loss, the result of the loss of her people, it's not a meaningful sacrifice.

Shoot Mordin in the back.
Watch his death.
Tell me they're not similar.

I actually did cure the genophage, I told them about the dalatrass.

The only time it's acceptable to not cure the genophage is when Wrex and Bakara are both dead.
In that case, you can persuade Mordin to back off.

[Fenrisfil]

Sirithariel wrote...

Although Mordin's is quite sad too.

Sad, but not as tragic. Mordin was nearing the end of his short Salarian life anyway and his death was actually an act of redemption for him. I think he went up in that lift with no regrets and feeling that he had always done the right thing, but now finally his brain and heart are both content to believe that (where before they disagreed).

It's a little similar with Legion too because he is sacrificing himself to grant his species true sentience/

For Samara there is an element of that too, though it turns out there was another solution. She wasn't killing herself just out of grief but to protect her daughter.

However for Tali... well there is nothing but tragedy there. Glad I'll never take that route with her. It must be even worse for those that did and then took the "destroy" choice at the end, so betraying Tali and wiping out her people ends up completely meaningless as the Geth get destroyed anyway. Hmmf, I don't even want to think about it.

[zim1017]

N7Kopper wrote...

zim1017 wrote...
Actually it's the opposite, which is what makes it so tragic. Mordin dying to cure the genophage was extremely meaningful, both for the krogan and himself, so that was almost beautiful in a way. Tali's death is just pure desperation, loss, the result of the loss of her people, it's not a meaningful sacrifice.

Shoot Mordin in the back.
Watch his death.
How he struggles on heroic willpower (any Shepard who does this is no hero.) but ultimately fails...
Tell me they're not similar.

Yes, then they're similar. I was comparing Mordins successful sacrifice to Tali's suicide.

[Sirithariel]

N7Kopper wrote...

zim1017 wrote...
Actually it's the opposite, which is what makes it so tragic. Mordin dying to cure the genophage was extremely meaningful, both for the krogan and himself, so that was almost beautiful in a way. Tali's death is just pure desperation, loss, the result of the loss of her people, it's not a meaningful sacrifice.

Shoot Mordin in the back.
Watch his death.
How he struggles on heroic willpower (any Shepard who does this is no hero.) but ultimately fails...
Tell me they're not similar.

I agree about the no hero part, any Shepard who sabotages the cure is a pure, cold-hearted [covers mouth to stop torrent of insults]

[eLMuTTo]

Sirithariel wrote...

N7Kopper wrote...

zim1017 wrote...
Actually it's the opposite, which is what makes it so tragic. Mordin dying to cure the genophage was extremely meaningful, both for the Krogan and himself, so that was almost beautiful in a way. Tali's death is just pure desperation, loss, the result of the loss of her people, it's not a meaningful sacrifice.

Shoot Mordin in the back.
Watch his death.
Tell me they're not similar.

I actually did cure the genophage, I told them about the dalatrass.

Yeah I did the same and told the dalatrass to shove it.
The moment that i found out that you could romance Tali in ME2 i remember going back to ME1 and going through that whole game all over again without romancing anyone just because of that reason. I suspect many people here did the same.

[Yuvero]

Sirithariel wrote...

Yuvero wrote...

maybe because each other (Tali and Shep) suffered so much is the reason why their romance is so intense, is like shepard was always Tali's dream and it became real, this words are epic "you are real and MINE" 20 of 10 for this.

Thumbs up for this post, I'm playing through all three games again and I'm romancing Liara in first and Tali in 2 and 3.

lol I just imagine Tali talking to her mirror...

Tali: Is mine, MY PRECIOUS, he is our my love, no for the blue, crazy, old asari neither the psychopath, selfish Cerberus barbie.

[bazzag]

I could never backstab Mordin! Hes too cool for school!

And i could never witness Tali kill herself.
I hated that choice. I wanted peace between the quarians and geth, and when legion mentioned the upload, there were only two choices! No persuasion! Fingers crossed, and shaking like a nervous wreck, i allowed him to upload the data. Tali tried to get through gerrel. Fail! I'm thinking NOOOOOO! and that the paragon persuade came up! YES! Then i was still a nervous wreck until the scene was over.

[Sirithariel]

Yuvero wrote...

Sirithariel wrote...

Yuvero wrote...

maybe because each other (Tali and Shep) suffered so much is the reason why their romance is so intense, is like shepard was always Tali's dream and it became real, this words are epic "you are real and MINE" 20 of 10 for this.

Thumbs up for this post, I'm playing through all three games again and I'm romancing Liara in first and Tali in 2 and 3.

lol I just imagine Tali talking to her mirror...

Tali: Is mine, MY PRECIOUS, he is our my love, no for the blue, crazy, old asari neither the psychopath, selfish Cerberus barbie.

lol [dies of laughing too much]