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[Dilandau3000]

Bfler wrote...

Maybe it is better that she is not LI in ME 1. The emotional impact after Shepards death could have overwhelmed her at this time and then it maybe would have ended like on Rannoch.

I doubt that. As much as she loves Shepard, I don't think his death stacks up against the death of her entire race, whom she has been brought up to be fiercely loyal to since birth.

[Bfler]

Dilandau3000 wrote...

Bfler wrote...

Maybe it is better that she is not LI in ME 1. The emotional impact after Shepards death could have overwhelmed her at this time and then it maybe would have ended like on Rannoch.

I doubt that. As much as she loves Shepard, I don't think his death stacks up against the death of her entire race, whom she has been brought up to be fiercely loyal to since birth.

Love can hurt more than everything else, especially in case of a young inexperienced woman

Modifié par Bfler, 05 avril 2012 - 06:06 .

[Dilandau3000]

Bfler wrote...

Dilandau3000 wrote...

Bfler wrote...

Maybe it is better that she is not LI in ME 1. The emotional impact after Shepards death could have overwhelmed her at this time and then it maybe would have ended like on Rannoch.

I doubt that. As much as she loves Shepard, I don't think his death stacks up against the death of her entire race, whom she has been brought up to be fiercely loyal to since birth.

Love can hurt more tha everything else, especially in case of a young inexperienced woman

Yes, but I don't think Tali is so insecure that the death of a lover would cause her to commit suicide. She is far stronger than that.

Modifié par Dilandau3000, 05 avril 2012 - 06:07 .

[darthrevaninlight]

How much of Tali's kindness is due to her upbringing, and how much is due to her choices/true self?

Modifié par darthrevaninlight, 05 avril 2012 - 06:11 .

[Swordfish56]

You know, I was half-hoping this was a Tali-hug moment but it was not. I had to go 'comfort' Liara instead. Too bad.

[Ralix_57]

She is now, yes. Back during ME1? Well, I don't know for sure, since I haven't actually gotten to play it all the way through. XD

From what I do understand, yes, she was certainly less confident and more naive back then, but her will was probably just as strong then as it is now. How she'd have coped is really up in the air...

Modifié par Ralix_57, 05 avril 2012 - 06:12 .

[darthrevaninlight]

Swordfish56 wrote...

*argh*

You know, I was half-hoping this was a Tali-hug moment but it was not. I had to go 'comfort' Liara instead. Too bad.

Bioware: Tali hugs? Ha, who wants that?! That is SO Mass Effect 2. *trollface*

[Cro730]

darthrevaninlight wrote...

How much of Tali's kindness is due to her upbringing, and how much is due to her choices/true self?

HAI
The environment anyone grows up in helps shape who we are and our beliefs, but ultimately the choices we make are individual. So maybe the large sense of community and togetherness helped her found those kind and caring qualities, but it's her choice to act on them.
As we can see with the heavy fleet captain graal (or whatever his name is), there can be some real Quarian jerks out there.

Modifié par Cro730, 05 avril 2012 - 06:15 .

[Nkromelow]

darthrevaninlight wrote...

Swordfish56 wrote...

*argh*

You know, I was half-hoping this was a Tali-hug moment but it was not. I had to go 'comfort' Liara instead. Too bad.

Bioware: Tali hugs? Ha, who wants that?! That is SO Mass Effect 2. *trollface*

A quick edit of this pic would be much better than a trollface.

[Dilandau3000]

Ralix_57 wrote...

She is now, yes. Back during ME1? Well, I don't know, since I haven't actually gotten to play it all the way through. XD

Yes, she was certainly less confident and more naive back then, but her will was probably just as strong then as it is now. How she'd have coped is really up in the air...

Suicide is not something anyone would do lightly. Seeing that scene for the first time (on YouTube), I was as shocked by the fact that she did it as by her actual death.

But look at what it took. The death of nearly her entire people. All her hopes and dreams for the future, gone. Even if the reapers are defeated, they can never be brought back. And who's responsible for letting it happen? Shepard, the man she loves.

There is nothing left for her in that situation, so I can understand the need to end it.

But if they had been together at Shepard's death at the start of ME2, she would still have her loyalty to her people. Their numbers are so few that they can't afford to lose anyone, and she knows this. She would be hurt, extremely so. But I simply cannot believe she would commit suicide in that situation.

[Cro730]

Ralix_57 wrote...

She is now, yes. Back during ME1? Well, I don't know for sure, since I haven't actually gotten to play it all the way through. XD

From what I do understand, yes, she was certainly less confident and more naive back then, but her will was probably just as strong then as it is now. How she'd have coped is really up in the air...

I'm sure there will plenty of time to ask her when we are living together in that house...
Heres to hoping

[darthrevaninlight]

Cro730 wrote...

darthrevaninlight wrote...

How much of Tali's kindness is due to her upbringing, and how much is due to her choices/true self?

HAI
The environment anyone grows up in helps shape who we are and our beliefs, but ultimately the choices we make are individual. So maybe the large sense of community and togetherness helped her found those kind and caring qualities, but it's her choice to act on them.
As we can see with the heavy fleet captain graal (or whatever his name is), there can be some real Quarian jerks out there.

WAZZUP BOSHTET

That's a great point. But Tali, in ME1 especially, consistantly points to the Fleet as the reason why she is how she is. To clarify my statement; how much of herself did she discover there, and how much of her changed upon seeing the outside world during her pilgrimage? (Please do SPECULATE > )

[darthrevaninlight]

Nkromelow wrote...

A quick edit of this pic would be much better than a trollface.

Nah, instead of Sheploo, we need Casey Hudson. Or some EA person. Maybe golden poop.
Heya T-grenade Melow btw XD

Modifié par darthrevaninlight, 05 avril 2012 - 06:20 .

[darthrevaninlight]

Ralix_57 wrote...

Wow, I'm out for like 3 hours, and only 2 pages? Y'all are losing your touch.


I've griped about it before, but I'll say it again just to contribute: Spending 2/3 of ME2 AND 3 trying to get Tali back was way more annoying than it should have been. >.<


Edit:

Hah, not this time!  For once, I will actually post a top pic!



Booyah!  

great pic. I'm bumping it.
:wub:I LOVE THE FOREHEAD TOUCH:wub:

[Ralix_57]

darthrevaninlight wrote...

Nkromelow wrote...

A quick edit of this pic would be much better than a trollface.

Nah, instead of Sheploo, we need Casey Hudson. Or some EA person. Maybe golden poop.
Heya T-grenade Melow btw XD

Or Tali.

*counts off the seconds it takes for somebody to random whip up a Hipster Tali picture*

[Nkromelow]

Cro730 wrote...

As we can see with the heavy fleet captain graal (or whatever his name is), there can be some real Quarian jerks out there.

Why is the popular opinion that Han is a jerk? Sure, he had the dreadnought fired on when Shepard, Tali, and Garrus were in it, but he was presented a great opportunity to take down the dreadnought, and they still got out fine. I don't get it...

darthrevaninlight wrote...

Nah, instead of Sheploo, we need Casey Hudson. Or some EA person. Maybe golden poop.
Heya T-grenade Melow btw XD

It would be perfect with Hudson. Hudson should be a meme, make it happen internet!

Hi!

Modifié par Nkromelow, 05 avril 2012 - 06:25 .

[darthrevaninlight]

Nkromelow wrote...

Cro730 wrote...

As we can see with the heavy fleet captain graal (or whatever his name is), there can be some real Quarian jerks out there.

Why is the popular opinion that Han is a jerk? Sure, he had the dreadnought fired on when Shepard, Tali, and Garrus were in it, but he was presented a great opportunity to take down the dreadnought, and they still got out fine. I don't get it...

Just like how renegade Sheploo is a jerk, Renegade Han is a jerk. Simple logic (i kid(kinda))

Modifié par darthrevaninlight, 05 avril 2012 - 06:23 .

[Cro730]

Ralix_57 wrote...


*counts off the seconds it takes for somebody to random whip up a Hipster Tali picture*

?

yes?

[Cro730]

Nkromelow wrote...

Why is the popular opinion that Han is a jerk? Sure, he had the dreadnought fired on when Shepard, Tali, and Garrus were in it, but he was presented a great opportunity to take down the dreadnought, and they still got out fine. I don't get it...

Even though his intentions are for the best of Quarian people, all he thinks is "KILL GETH KILL GETH' no matter the cost. Thats a jerk in my book.

[Ralix_57]

That doesn't quite strike me as hipster. Though maybe its hipster in that its trying not to be hipster. So its a hipster being a hipster by not being a hispspt- *head explodes*


Anyway, I'm probably gonna be heading to bed shortly. Night folks.

[darthrevaninlight]

^
Tali is always a hipster.
End of story.

Modifié par darthrevaninlight, 05 avril 2012 - 06:26 .

[Cro730]

Ralix_57 wrote...

That doesn't quite strike me as hipster. Though maybe its hipster in that its trying not to be hipster. So its a hipster being a hipster by not being a hispspt- *head explodes*


Anyway, I'm probably gonna be heading to bed shortly. Night folks.

HIPster. hehe, get it?

[darthrevaninlight]

^
ha
i get it.

Tali is also a Toester. A Brave Little Toester. (kudos if you get it. both of it.)

Modifié par darthrevaninlight, 05 avril 2012 - 06:31 .

[Cro730]

darthrevaninlight wrote...

WAZZUP BOSHTET

That's a great point. But Tali, in ME1 especially, consistantly points to the Fleet as the reason why she is how she is. To clarify my statement; how much of herself did she discover there, and how much of her changed upon seeing the outside world during her pilgrimage? (Please do SPECULATE > )

hmmm please see
http://social.biowar...ex/7625998/1106
remember that? I think thats a good summary, BOSH'TET

edit: brave little toaster a kid's show i think
cause she has three toes?
on her toes?

Modifié par Cro730, 05 avril 2012 - 06:32 .

[Nkromelow]

darthrevaninlight wrote...

^
Tali is always a hipster.
End of story.

I hope I wasn't too slow with this...