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[gamer_girl]

The only thing that's holding me back from the laws of thermodynamics is that the physics of Earth may not be applicable in other parts of the galaxy.
No way of knowing what the physics of the rest of the galaxy is.

[iwillkillfortali]

gamer_girl wrote...

The only thing that's holding me back from the laws of thermodynamics is that the physics of Earth may not be applicable in other parts of the galaxy.
No way of knowing what the physics of the rest of the galaxy is.

The physics every else are different gamer because of atmospheric,Gravity and a bunch of other things.

[ShepardAndTali]

bazzag wrote...

ShepardAndTali wrote...

Someone please tell me how to upload pictures on here...

Try uploading the image on to another website, like imageshack for example, then copy/paste

Thats what im doing. Its not working. 

[exelsis]

gamer_girl wrote...

The only thing that's holding me back from the laws of thermodynamics is that the physics of Earth may not be applicable in other parts of the galaxy.
No way of knowing what the physics of the rest of the galaxy is.

Yes, yes there is. All laws of the universe are absolutely static throughout the universe. Anything that appears to be otherwise does not actually indicate so, it simply underlines that we do not understand the laws, not that they change. Basically, the four fundamental forces control everything in the universe, and are not conditional based upon any criteria. They simply are.

And about pics, don't try copy/paste. Never has worked for me. Just {img}url{/img} but with ][ instead of }{.

Modifié par exelsis, 07 avril 2012 - 01:08 .

[bazzag]

ShepardAndTali wrote...

bazzag wrote...

ShepardAndTali wrote...

Someone please tell me how to upload pictures on here...

Try uploading the image on to another website, like imageshack for example, then copy/paste

Thats what im doing. Its not working. 

Then i'm flummuxed...not a clue.

[iwillkillfortali]

ShepardAndTali wrote...

bazzag wrote...

ShepardAndTali wrote...

Someone please tell me how to upload pictures on here...

Try uploading the image on to another website, like imageshack for example, then copy/paste

Thats what im doing. Its not working. 

[darthrevaninlight]

@Shepard and Tali look up instructions on google how to post images on bioware forums. There are some good tutorials on there.

Also, I agree that Tali is prejudiced and not racist. Racist just does not seem appropriate for the kind of rationalizing she has for her feelings towards sentient machines. Prejudice has to do with preconcieved judgement, which can be rationalized. Bioware needs dictionary XD kidkidkid

[iwillkillfortali]

darthrevaninlight wrote...

@Shepard and Tali look up instructions on google how to post images on bioware forums. There are some good tutorials on there.

Also, I agree that Tali is prejudiced and not racist. Racist just does not seem appropriate for the kind of rationalizing she has for her feelings towards sentient machines. Prejudice has to do with preconcieved judgement, which can be rationalized. Bioware needs dictionary XD kidkidkid

Do you like the guide I made on posting?
It is that picture.

[gamer_girl]

@exelsis
And you know this because you've been to the far reaches of the milky way, right? >_>
Point is, humans are idiots. Science is constantly changing.
We onces believed that the Earth was flat, and that it was the centre of our system. I should then trust the judgement of people on something they have no idea about (the rest of the galaxy) even though they were dumb enough to wholly believe that the Earth was flat?

[iwillkillfortali]

gamer_girl wrote...

@exelsis
And you know this because you've been to the far reaches of the milky way, right? >_>
Point is, humans are idiots. Science is constantly changing.
We onces believed that the Earth was flat, and that it was the centre of our system. I should then trust the judgement of people on something they have no idea about (the rest of the galaxy) even though they were dumb enough to wholly believe that the Earth was flat?

And I believe that FTL Is Possible!!!

[exelsis]

gamer_girl wrote...

@exelsis
And you know this because you've been to the far reaches of the milky way, right? >_>
Point is, humans are idiots. Science is constantly changing.
We onces believed that the Earth was flat, and that it was the centre of our system. I should then trust the judgement of people on something they have no idea about (the rest of the galaxy) even though they were dumb enough to wholly believe that the Earth was flat?

Science changes because new data is recieved and analyzed. No new data can change the fact that gravity is exactly the same throughout the galaxy. New data may, however, change our view of what gravity actually IS. Dark energy may eventually be found to be an effect of gravity, changing what we understand as gravity, but gravity still remains unchanged from point A to point B. The universe is like that.
In a semi-related note, does anyone know the speed of gravity?
In a thread-related post, tali is beautiful and charming and admirable and a benefit to galactic society.

Modifié par exelsis, 07 avril 2012 - 01:18 .

[darthrevaninlight]

Humans are not only dumb, they also are quite proud of their lack of intellect. so its hard for them to find fault in themselves. tali is humble, which is very refreshing.

and yes, i willkillforyali. your picture was beautiful lololol

excuse the typos am on phone

[forthary]

gamer_girl wrote...

Her suit has to be warm because it is mechanical.
It's constantly keeping the internal environment safe for her among many other functions I'm sure.
No machine is 100% efficient and thus must give off energy in the form of heat. Unless in this huge technological jump, machines became 100% efficient, or maybe the rule that machines cannot be entirely efficient is limited to earth.

Hmm...if its a DIY job, then her suit may not be as safe as she thinks it is for space walking...however, for cuddling, it might give off enough body heat to help keep Shepard warm on those cold space nights...might even help them sleep better on top of the mental benefits they gain from cuddling, their bodies don't have to work as hard at generating heat while sleeping.  Fascinating...just fascinating.

[iwillkillfortali]

darthrevaninlight wrote...

Humans are not only dumb, they also are quite proud of their lack of intellect. so its hard for them to find fault in themselves. tali is humble, which is very refreshing.

and yes, i willkillfortali. your picture was beautiful lololol

excuse the typos am on phone

Thanks!!!!!!!!

[Messier87]

exelsis wrote...

Yes, yes there is. All laws of the universe are absolutely static throughout the universe. Anything that appears to be otherwise does not actually indicate so, it simply underlines that we do not understand the laws, not that they change. Basically, the four fundamental forces control everything in the universe, and are not conditional based upon any criteria. They simply are.

And about pics, don't try copy/paste. Never has worked for me. Just {img}url{/img} but with ][ instead of }{.

Precisely so.  I study ancient stars in the galactic halo, and I can confirm that it is a great feeling to experience the agreement between our observations and theoretical calculations. The idea of variant laws of physics generally applies to hypothetical "multiverses." 

I'm pretty sure EDI discusses this, as well.

EDIT: Information travels at the speed of light (max).

Modifié par Messier87, 07 avril 2012 - 01:22 .

[gamer_girl]

@exelsis
You're missing the point. How can human beings possibly know anything about the rest of the galaxy? We have never been outside the Sol system. Hell, we haven't even been to Mars. You're saying that humans can make a big judgement about the rest of the galaxy based on an insignificant portion of that galaxy?
That's like looking at a car at an astronomical level and saying "oh there's gasoline molecules here, that means the rest of the car is also made of gasoline molecules." It's a fallacy of composition. No sufficient grounds for such an argument, and it's quite frankly ridiculous.

[exelsis]

forthary wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

Her suit has to be warm because it is mechanical.
It's constantly keeping the internal environment safe for her among many other functions I'm sure.
No machine is 100% efficient and thus must give off energy in the form of heat. Unless in this huge technological jump, machines became 100% efficient, or maybe the rule that machines cannot be entirely efficient is limited to earth.

Hmm...if its a DIY job, then her suit may not be as safe as she thinks it is for space walking...however, for cuddling, it might give off enough body heat to help keep Shepard warm on those cold space nights...might even help them sleep better on top of the mental benefits they gain from cuddling, their bodies don't have to work as hard at generating heat while sleeping.  Fascinating...just fascinating.

I think the armor layer is the "space walk" layer. The envirosuit cannot be safe in hard vacuum, but the armor layer easily could. And cuddling would be warm for shepard, and cold for tali. Quarian body temp has to be noticably higher than humans, due to ambient temperature on rannoch. She might like that though, as much as we would enjoy snuggling up against her warmth. But they would both expend more energy in the process, as their average temps are too far from homeostatic temperature.

Gamer, the laws of the universe are UNIVERSAL. It doesn't matter if we can only see a few billion light years in every direction, the laws stay the same FOREVER in every direction, which is isotropism. The universe is isotropic. And comparing objects to forces is inherently flawed. They are not liable for comparison, even if you comparison was true.

Modifié par exelsis, 07 avril 2012 - 01:26 .

[ShepardAndTali]

 Maybe this will work. imageshack.us/photo/my-images/99/dscf1017qx.jpg/ 

[Ryuji2]

Been playing the crap out of MP matches, saving up credits for the new stuff coming out in 4 days and I have but a few things to say: one of them in haiku form:

Revan, holy crap
Your recent drawing's awesome
I'm saving it now

and I'm really enjoying reading these debates, so to speak. I'll chime in here in a bit methinks.

[XenoAlbedo]

*Finally uploads new Gmod video*
Youtube: Third party content matched
Me: Oh well, *aknowledges*
*Video stuck at 480p instead of 1080 and scene gets messed up.*

[bazzag]

exelsis wrote...

forthary wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

Her suit has to be warm because it is mechanical.
It's constantly keeping the internal environment safe for her among many other functions I'm sure.
No machine is 100% efficient and thus must give off energy in the form of heat. Unless in this huge technological jump, machines became 100% efficient, or maybe the rule that machines cannot be entirely efficient is limited to earth.

Hmm...if its a DIY job, then her suit may not be as safe as she thinks it is for space walking...however, for cuddling, it might give off enough body heat to help keep Shepard warm on those cold space nights...might even help them sleep better on top of the mental benefits they gain from cuddling, their bodies don't have to work as hard at generating heat while sleeping.  Fascinating...just fascinating.

I think the armor layer is the "space walk" layer. The envirosuit cannot be safe in hard vacuum, but the armor layer easily could. And cuddling would be warm for shepard, and cold for tali. Quarian body temp has to be noticably higher than humans, due to ambient temperature on rannoch. She might like that though, as much as we would enjoy snuggling up against her warmth. But they would both expend more energy in the process, as their average temps are too far from homeostatic temperature.

Gamer, the laws of the universe are UNIVERSAL. It doesn't matter if we can only see a few billion light years in every direction, the laws stay the same FOREVER in every direction, which is isotropism. The universe is isotropic.

I prefer to hug my Quarian under the sheets...

[iwillkillfortali]

@ShepardAndTali

Let me just post it

[Fenrisfil]

gamer_girl wrote...

The only thing that's holding me back from the laws of thermodynamics is that the physics of Earth may not be applicable in other parts of the galaxy.
No way of knowing what the physics of the rest of the galaxy is.

Well we are pretty sure the laws of physics don't change anywhere else in this universe. There may be other universes with other laws of physics, but within our own galaxy we can be pretty certain that Entropy exists. If we were to assume otherwise we'd pretty much have to throw all of cosmology and theoretical physics out the window. The second law of thermodynamics (entropy) is the doom of our entire universe and all life within it, so it's not something taken lightly.

That's not to say it's 100%, because truth is for all we know we're just inside a giant computer simulation. Reality may not exist and my comments could just be the imagination of a deluded mind experiencing itself in the void. But there's little to gain by thinking along those lines, so I'm sticking with entropy and the inevitable doom of all things. It's a cheery thought. Well, it may keep Tali warm and that's cheery.

[bazzag]

edit: removed by request.

There we go S&T!

Modifié par bazzag, 07 avril 2012 - 01:31 .

[iwillkillfortali]

bazzag wrote...



There we go S&T!

I just fixed it.