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okay well think of a hairless cat.... yikes sorry

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don't mind about trolls guys...just share the tali love <3

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I wanna see her face because seeing all those Quarians and having no idea what they look like under those suits is annoying.

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I'd be happy just seeing a young quarian rolling around in a environmental bubble. Wheeee! Wheeee!

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Texaboose wrote...

I'd be happy just seeing a young quarian rolling around in a environmental bubble. Wheeee! Wheeee!


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78stonewobble wrote...

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What choice would they have?


Oh I just think that hair would be some of the stuff that evolution would get rid of pretty quickly if one of the enviromental factors was having to wear a suit.

But then again quarians have only been stuck in suits for 700 years or so right? 


Er, thats not quite how evolution works mate.

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Nashiktal wrote...

78stonewobble wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...

What choice would they have?


Oh I just think that hair would be some of the stuff that evolution would get rid of pretty quickly if one of the enviromental factors was having to wear a suit.

But then again quarians have only been stuck in suits for 700 years or so right? 


Er, thats not quite how evolution works mate.


Well it didn't take long for humanity to "outbreed" the ones who couldn't handle cow milk and what not. I think that was in a few generations.

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Awwwww yea good job sharon!

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Rath_01 wrote...

I wanna see her face because seeing all those Quarians and having no idea what they look like under those suits is annoying.


Hah... I find it more annoying that there are Asari alive who know how the quarians look under those suits... And they (the asari) or the quarians themselves didnt wanna release even one damn picture...

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78stonewobble wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...

78stonewobble wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...

What choice would they have?


Oh I just think that hair would be some of the stuff that evolution would get rid of pretty quickly if one of the enviromental factors was having to wear a suit.

But then again quarians have only been stuck in suits for 700 years or so right? 


Er, thats not quite how evolution works mate.


Well it didn't take long for humanity to "outbreed" the ones who couldn't handle cow milk and what not. I think that was in a few generations.


Truthfully,  I was astounded that quarian immune systems went the way of the dodos so fast.  It always bothered me in ME,  we did get the explination in ME2... but it really... really bothered me the first time around.  It just seemed like a reason to create hawt fetish aliens to me.

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78stonewobble wrote...

Rath_01 wrote...

I wanna see her face because seeing all those Quarians and having no idea what they look like under those suits is annoying.


Hah... I find it more annoying that there are Asari alive who know how the quarians look under those suits... And they (the asari) or the quarians themselves didnt wanna release even one damn picture...


it's probably on the Extranet, but Shepard never looks at it.

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The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

78stonewobble wrote...

Rath_01 wrote...

I wanna see her face because seeing all those Quarians and having no idea what they look like under those suits is annoying.


Hah... I find it more annoying that there are Asari alive who know how the quarians look under those suits... And they (the asari) or the quarians themselves didnt wanna release even one damn picture...


it's probably on the Extranet, but Shepard never looks at it.


Oh ... ...

So Shepard's a tech retard? ...

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78stonewobble wrote...

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

78stonewobble wrote...

Rath_01 wrote...

I wanna see her face because seeing all those Quarians and having no idea what they look like under those suits is annoying.


Hah... I find it more annoying that there are Asari alive who know how the quarians look under those suits... And they (the asari) or the quarians themselves didnt wanna release even one damn picture...


it's probably on the Extranet, but Shepard never looks at it.


Oh ... ...

So Shepard's a tech retard? ...


Since Shepard has to have everything explained to him/her like he/she is a child, yes.

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78stonewobble wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...

78stonewobble wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...

What choice would they have?


Oh I just think that hair would be some of the stuff that evolution would get rid of pretty quickly if one of the enviromental factors was having to wear a suit.

But then again quarians have only been stuck in suits for 700 years or so right? 


Er, thats not quite how evolution works mate.


Well it didn't take long for humanity to "outbreed" the ones who couldn't handle cow milk and what not. I think that was in a few generations.


What does that have to do with losing feathers? If the race as a whole does indeed have feathers, it would stand to reason they would take that into account when it came to designing the suits in the first place.

Even then you don't just lose feathers because you live in a suit. Evolution works like this... Over time genes just mutate spontaneoulsy. If said change allows someone to have more children than the other guy, and said mutation happens again with the genes as they are passed on, then more and more people will start to have those genes over time. Which could eventually make the species different from what it was.

Unless having feathers while in the suit somehow hurts breeding they won't lose em in just 700 years. 

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Wait... what? Were everyone getting Quarians have feathers?

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Not nearly enough generations would have passed in 300 years for all quarians to lose any hair through simple genetics. Say we assume that quarians have children around the age of 30, thats only 10 generations. Now as for the "hairless" trait, it would most likely not be common or be non-existent at the time of the geth war.

So lets assume that by some random chance a bald trait shows up in the first generation of flotilla quarians. It is doubtful that it would be beneficial at the time as I believe they did not start wearing suits full time until a few generations into their exile. But in that case one would have to assume that when the suits were constructed any issues with hair would be taken into account when designing suits.

As for a purely genetic basis, if a trait showed up in one individual there is no possibility of it ever being attained by all 17 million or however many there are quarians in that short a time period. In effect the only way they would gain such a trait in that short a time period would be a vicious genetic bottleneck in which all non-hairless quarians died and only the hairless remained. Seeing as that isn't mentioned at all I have to assume that never happened.

Oh and also with the whole one kid per family rule it sort of rules out there being more "successful" bald individuals spreading their genes all over the place.

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Nashiktal wrote...

What does that have to do with losing feathers? If the race as a whole does indeed have feathers, it would stand to reason they would take that into account when it came to designing the suits in the first place.

Even then you don't just lose feathers because you live in a suit. Evolution works like this... Over time genes just mutate spontaneoulsy. If said change allows someone to have more children than the other guy, and said mutation happens again with the genes as they are passed on, then more and more people will start to have those genes over time. Which could eventually make the species different from what it was.

Unless having feathers while in the suit somehow hurts breeding they won't lose em in just 700 years. 


Thats the usual way evolution works but apparently sometimes evolution "jumps" instead of working at a snails pace. Unlikely but it happens. Though my example in being able to process cow's milk is more of an on / off switch than how much feathers/hair a person has offcourse.

700 years is in all probability too little to loose feathers / fur / whatever they have but I could imagine that having something like that would create more sores / infections than people with lesser. So a slow cumulative affect of people with less hair/fur/feathers surviving a bit longer to have few more children. Kind of how us humans are loosing our hair over time.

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Heh weird discussion... and kinda off topic... lets try to twist it back to tali again.

Imaginary tali comes with:

Hair, Fur, Feathers, Scales or nothing?

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78stonewobble wrote...

Heh weird discussion... and kinda off topic... lets try to twist it back to tali again.

Imaginary tali comes with:

Hair, Fur, Feathers, Scales or nothing?


Scales please...  and a mouth full of fangs.

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78stonewobble wrote...

Heh weird discussion... and kinda off topic... lets try to twist it back to tali again.

Imaginary tali comes with:

Hair, Fur, Feathers, Scales or nothing?


Hair Quarians are mammals...

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VettoRyouzou wrote...

78stonewobble wrote...

Heh weird discussion... and kinda off topic... lets try to twist it back to tali again.

Imaginary tali comes with:

Hair, Fur, Feathers, Scales or nothing?


Hair Quarians are mammals...


Since everything is chemically different about the quarians I'm not sure this matters.

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AngelicMachinery wrote...

VettoRyouzou wrote...

78stonewobble wrote...

Heh weird discussion... and kinda off topic... lets try to twist it back to tali again.

Imaginary tali comes with:

Hair, Fur, Feathers, Scales or nothing?


Hair Quarians are mammals...


Since everything is chemically different about the quarians I'm not sure this matters.


So is everyone else but that doesn't stop Humans from using there standard to define creature such as Krogans being reptilian.

Quarians are mammals.

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VettoRyouzou wrote...

AngelicMachinery wrote...

VettoRyouzou wrote...

78stonewobble wrote...

Heh weird discussion... and kinda off topic... lets try to twist it back to tali again.

Imaginary tali comes with:

Hair, Fur, Feathers, Scales or nothing?


Hair Quarians are mammals...


Since everything is chemically different about the quarians I'm not sure this matters.


So is everyone else but that doesn't stop Humans from using there standard to define creature such as Krogans being reptilian.

Quarians are mammals.



Its not the same,  they're err....  DNA (That's not the right term anymore)  is absolutely different from every race besides the turians.

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Intestines on the outside... iff ...

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AngelicMachinery wrote...

VettoRyouzou wrote...

AngelicMachinery wrote...

VettoRyouzou wrote...

78stonewobble wrote...

Heh weird discussion... and kinda off topic... lets try to twist it back to tali again.

Imaginary tali comes with:

Hair, Fur, Feathers, Scales or nothing?


Hair Quarians are mammals...


Since everything is chemically different about the quarians I'm not sure this matters.


So is everyone else but that doesn't stop Humans from using there standard to define creature such as Krogans being reptilian.

Quarians are mammals.



Its not the same,  they're err....  DNA (That's not the right term anymore)  is absolutely different from every race besides the turians.


We can argue this point threw and threw the fact is there Mammals, and humans will identify species on what they recognize as similar traits the key one of being a mammals is Quarians have mammary glands.