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Hi guys

@fenfen: I wouldn't want to bathe in methane...

Maybe a side effect of the reapers corruption turns their armies blood into jam...


It's possible. Would explain the cannibals at least!


TrueMadayar wrote...


Works with the brains of their inventors, too.

Anyway,
yes, it could be something else. But then again, we got a scene where
it most definitely IS water, and it looks like...well...some kind of
lubricant that is not pure Dihydroxide.

See? That is not water as I know it. Glad Tali didn't touch that. It could be paraffin based.


Could be, or else people just tend to forget to drop their barrier/shields when they go for a wash.

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Fenrisfil wrote...

I'm not convinced Liara and Javik are that great a match. For her it's a bit too much like going out with your science project, while for him it would be like dating a monkey. I did think it was a pity so few other people hook up mind. I really wanted Chakwas and Adams to get it together.


I dunno, if Javik was able to get off his high horse, maybe he could see how special Liara is even for an Asari. And Liara, well, she tends to fall in love with her science projects, anyway. And well, as she said, many couples on the Citadel, trying to enjoy their last moments. Also, Liara is an Asari, they want input from other species for their children - nobody is like Javik out there, absolutely nobody. That alone should get her interested. And Chakwas and Adams, yes. Those two...I like them, both. I wish them both the best.

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I have mixed feelings about a Femshep romancing Tali. It would make playing a Femshep more attractive, but I do prefer it when characters sexuality is realistic. As much as it was a disapointment not to be able to romance Veronica (Felicia Day's character) in Fallout New Vegas, I appreciated them not sacrificing that element of her character for the players sexual whims. My  fear when they mentioned about adding in same sex relationships (Liara and Kelly aside) was they would make everybody obtainable by everyone, which would be silly. Glad they didn't. I didn't mind them making Kaiden bi, given there are two bi human females (to be fair one is Allers) there should probably be one male and I really couldn't see Vega going both ways (even if he does like Grizzly Bears).



Hmmm...interesting comparison, but you may not forget that Obsidian is far more thourough with their developments - as they have proven - than Bioware. Hardly any complaint to find about Fallout 3, for example, and Fallout New Vegas even was tighter and with more quests. Both tell a nice story, Bioware puts more work into their side characters, but Obsidian knows how to finish out a game. Anyway, yes, Tali is as I said not likely to swing as her character is developed as to be easily impressed by males. She's really not the type. And Vega? Who knows? At least he's a guy I would without hesitation leave in command when I'm gone and Garrus isn't available. And he's really tolerant, too. However, he nicknames a lot, don't he...well, he has his moments, Sparks is his most glorious. To go back to Tali - I believe she would always fall for Shepard, and a female Shepard would be the best friend she needs, not the love. At least that's my feeling of the character.

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I suspect in ME they've already made some sacrifices as far as cross species relationships go. I noticed the change in tone between ME1 and ME2. In the first game it feels like outside of the Asari, cross species relationships were very rare, hence the limited romance options. Then in ME2 they recognised that the players wanted to romance aliens even if they weren't capable of bearing offspring from the union and the galaxy suddenly seems a lot more open minded (the Quarian and Turian discussion about cross species relationship for example). I'm glad they made that change though. But it does bring up one curious idea, if we're talking cross species between two people that have no genetic compatibility, does the idea of male and female even mean anything anymore? It only seems so, because the designers chose to differentiate between the genders of the same species by using the kinds of differences we have as humans (like boobs and general body shape). It's interesting that word is a female Turian looks a lot like a male, which makes me wonder if Garrus was female, but looked the same, would male sheps romance her?

Well no, not if Tali could still be romanced, but other then that? It's interesting. Anyway, on the whole I'm glad they didn't mix it up any more. It would be very annoying having obvious hints dropped in by every member of your crew.


The thing is, in real life, the quota of same-sex relationships is rising still, and hasn't leveled out to the actual reality of feelings, and I believe in the game, not even in the third installment, the relationship quota doesn't yet match my feeling of what would be realistic. Then again, there is a strong fight against bigotry still to be fought. And I wonder, if Garrus was female...that would be interesting an idea. However, he doesn't ACT female from a human viewpoint.

And to me it wouldn't be too annoying. Some should only make moves if you make one, you're the commanding officer, after all. That should still count for something. Not that it does much, apart from the first part.

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gamer_girl wrote...

Hey everyone, good morning.
I have to finish editing this essay...
You guys are way too good at distracting me though.


Missed your fanart, panda tali. Saw your picture, though.

What is there still to edit?

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Fenrisfil wrote...

TrueMadayar wrote...


Works with the brains of their inventors, too.

Anyway,
yes, it could be something else. But then again, we got a scene where
it most definitely IS water, and it looks like...well...some kind of
lubricant that is not pure Dihydroxide.

See? That is not water as I know it. Glad Tali didn't touch that. It could be paraffin based.


Could be, or else people just tend to forget to drop their barrier/shields when they go for a wash.

Might be new fangled water that somehow cleans more effectively, and with the addition of such non harmful chemicals, it's more viscous... I'm trying ot defend it as best I can. :pinched:

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TrueMadayar wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

Hey everyone, good morning.
I have to finish editing this essay...
You guys are way too good at distracting me though.


Missed your fanart, panda tali. Saw your picture, though.

What is there still to edit?

Hmm it appears my removing the picture from image shack didn't do very much at all... Problematic.

Well see my professor is nice and sent me corrections (aka what I could do better) so I'm following her guidelines.

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It's the future, I'd be surprised if its still just ordinary water. I imagine disease control would be pretty high with the diversity around.

Also what's the essay on if ya don't mind me asking?

Modifié par skwisgaarthegod, 09 avril 2012 - 12:58 .


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gamer_girl wrote...


Hmm it appears my removing the picture from image shack didn't do very much at all... Problematic.

Well see my professor is nice and sent me corrections (aka what I could do better) so I'm following her guidelines.


True. Also, I got online very shortly after you went offline, so maybe that's that. Also, it's probably tagged as "human Tali" and spread as we speak.

Huh...interesting. Well, then you better do it just like that.

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Hi skwisgaar!
Morning Gamer!
I take it its a nasty essay? (from my experience, all are)

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@TrueMadayar (because the quotes getting long and the thread is moving slow, so I don't think there will be confusion)

One thing I can say about Bioware is they do a better job then Obsidian/Bethesda on romances. While the sexuality was realistic and the characters interesting in New Vegas, there wasn't really romances. It was more like you just got to have sex occasionally. Which has been the case really in the previous games too.

Actually Bioware are good at character development in general. Vegas had pretty good character development, but the previous games didn't really do that so well. The characters had interesting personalities, but that was as far as it got. Bioware always seemed to have a knack for that kind of thing. As much as I love the Fallout games, I can't see them ever providing a character as deep and interesting as Tali'Zorah, Garrus or many of the others.

Just a shame their plots can leave something to be desired sometime, especially with the ending. Has to be said though, they are capable of it. I loved the end of ME2 (including the whole suicide mission). Which in many ways made me even more disappointed (were it possible) at the ME3 end. Perhaps part of the reason why most people find ME2 the best game is because Bioware focused on their strengths - the characters.

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skwisgaarthegod wrote...

It's the future, I'd be surprised if its still just ordinary water. I imagine disease control would be pretty high with the diversity around.

Also what's the essay on if ya don't mind me asking?


Huh. Okay, so that's not water? But that is supposed to be water based, still. And it doesn't look like it. It could be a decontamination shower, sure, and on a spaceship you need a close water circuit, but that substance looks very unhealthy to my Tali and we should not risk it.

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gamer_girl wrote...

Might be new fangled water that somehow cleans more effectively, and with the addition of such non harmful chemicals, it's more viscous... I'm trying ot defend it as best I can. :pinched:


I just had a thought. The water on a space vessel could well be recycled. Perhaps they put extra chemicals in it to...uh, clean it up.

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TrueMadayar wrote...

skwisgaarthegod wrote...

It's the future, I'd be surprised if its still just ordinary water. I imagine disease control would be pretty high with the diversity around.

Also what's the essay on if ya don't mind me asking?


Huh. Okay, so that's not water? But that is supposed to be water based, still. And it doesn't look like it. It could be a decontamination shower, sure, and on a spaceship you need a close water circuit, but that substance looks very unhealthy to my Tali and we should not risk it.

Well I'm not saying its not water, just augmented water. But really I have no clue, I'm just trying to find reasons to explain the strangeness of the liquid.

Also TOP. Was posted a while ago but man I love this pic.
Image IPB 

Modifié par skwisgaarthegod, 09 avril 2012 - 01:15 .


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TrueMadayar wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...


Hmm it appears my removing the picture from image shack didn't do very much at all... Problematic.

Well see my professor is nice and sent me corrections (aka what I could do better) so I'm following her guidelines.


True. Also, I got online very shortly after you went offline, so maybe that's that. Also, it's probably tagged as "human Tali" and spread as we speak.

Huh...interesting. Well, then you better do it just like that.

Nope it's still there...
Anyone know how to destroy the link so the image is no longer viewable?

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Deleting the link in edit mode should work shouldn't it?

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skwisgaarthegod wrote...

Deleting the link in edit mode should work shouldn't it?

No because other people quoted it... :unsure:

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gamer_girl wrote...

skwisgaarthegod wrote...

Deleting the link in edit mode should work shouldn't it?

No because other people quoted it... :unsure:

Oh.... well that could be problematic, umm, the only way I can think is to get all the peopel who quoted it to delete the quote, but that would be rather difficult..

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gamer_girl wrote...

skwisgaarthegod wrote...

Deleting the link in edit mode should work shouldn't it?

No because other people quoted it... :unsure:


As I said, within a week "human Tali" will be your picture on any search engine. You look cute, anyway.

Can't you kill it from Imageshack then?

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TrueMadayar wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

skwisgaarthegod wrote...

Deleting the link in edit mode should work shouldn't it?

No because other people quoted it... :unsure:


As I said, within a week "human Tali" will be your picture on any search engine. You look cute, anyway.

Can't you kill it from Imageshack then?

I deleted it on imageshack, yet it still lives. DX

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Why'd do you want to kill it?

Its good...

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gamer_girl wrote...

TrueMadayar wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

skwisgaarthegod wrote...

Deleting the link in edit mode should work shouldn't it?

No because other people quoted it... :unsure:


As I said, within a week "human Tali" will be your picture on any search engine. You look cute, anyway.

Can't you kill it from Imageshack then?

I deleted it on imageshack, yet it still lives. DX

Wait, she posted a pic of herself? Must find.

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bazzag wrote...

Why'd do you want to kill it?

Its good...

Because I don't like it floating around the interwebs... :unsure:

#36747
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 Yeah a while ago. It was cute ^_^

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emergency... induction port.

<3

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@Gamergirl, maybe you could upload another pic with the same filename, perhaps it would over write?

Edit: Also that could be quite funny if anyone went back through the old posts, depending on what you replace it with. For instance you could put up a bowl of petunia's and everyone would be saying how cute they look and it'd be even more confusing when it turns up under "Human Tali" under google.

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Fenrisfil wrote...

@Gamergirl, maybe you could upload another pic with the same filename, perhaps it would over write?

Edit: Also that could be quite funny if anyone went back through the old posts, depending on what you replace it with. For instance you could put up a bowl of petunia's and everyone would be saying how cute they look and it'd be even more confusing when it turns up under "Human Tali" under google.

So far ahead of you man.
http://images.lmgtfy...i'zorah snuggle

Modifié par exelsis, 09 avril 2012 - 01:22 .