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#39251
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Fenrisfil wrote...

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Well if you got the Gabby/Ken dialogue/flirting and Tali accidentally breaking the ship you avoided the bug. But yes, she has to be either romanced or very-good-friend status apparently. Lucky you, though... I have to replay an entire three games so I can have one where she's not a smoking crater in the ground....


You can fix that with the gibbed save game editor. There is info somewhere on it, I quoted it in this thread ages back but don't recall it. Just a couple of strings you have to modify that makes the game think Ashley is your friend, even if she's only a friendly zombie.



I think I remember Tali breaking the ship, anyone got a yt vid of that? Ash was Ash in that playthough

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darthrevaninlight wrote...

I wasn't mean to ashley!
But I guess I wasn't nice enough :[ does that mean you have to accept her affections when you see her in the hospital? Kuz I was all paragon right up until she said "Not that... you'll need my permission."  Didn't want to get trapped in a romance with her again >__>


Well if you got the Gabby/Ken dialogue/flirting and Tali accidentally breaking the ship you avoided the bug. But yes, she has to be either romanced or very-good-friend status apparently. Lucky you, though... I have to replay an entire three games so I can have one where she's not a smoking crater in the ground....

:pinched:



..and nice awesome hilarious comic, as always.

Gibbed editor can fix it.  It did with my game.  Actually saved Ashley...

#39253
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Unschuld wrote...

Yeah, you got me there. Would have been nice to have the option to buy some sort of trinket or something.


She got a rock. What more does she want? Shepards just cheap like that, sometimes he really cheaps out and gives her an invisible rock.

"I bought this with my alliance funding you know!"

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Calinstel wrote...

Gibbed editor can fix it.  It did with my game.  Actually saved Ashley...

But I play on the 360...
GREAT JUSTICE!!

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Fenrisfil wrote...

She got a rock. What more does she want? Shepards just cheap like that, sometimes he really cheaps out and gives her an invisible rock.

"I bought this with my alliance funding you know!"


"I would have made you something really nice out of all the resources I've collected but ........ I decided not to collect resources this time around ................. here's a rock :D"

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;) Thanks for sharing your awesome sketches.

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Thanks for enjoying them! :pinched:

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Calinstel wrote...

Which would be fine if Tali or Garrus was unromanced.  They screwed up though and did not create alternate conversations when either was romanced. 
Tali should have said "Excuse me Garrus, but Shepard is here to talk" and then allowed Shepard and her to speak instead of brushing him off EVERY time.
Don't know about others but I really got a feeling that BW just wanted to tease the fans and give us all the finger.


It certainly felt like that at times. Still, there were clearly some areas they focused on in this game and other areas they didn't take the time to think about. I don't think I've ever seen a game that ended up such a patchy mixed bag of good, bad and fugly.

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darthrevaninlight wrote...

^
haha thanks XP

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I think the reason it was said is because she was being playful with Shepard so he played back.
"I didn't come up here just to see the fish... ;)"
"No, you came here because I asked you too. ;)"
He is implying playfully that he "owns" her in a sexually dominant kind of way. I dunno why I'm the only one who saw it that way... O_o

I think you're misinterpreting it...
Tali was being insecure, Shepard was reminding her that he called her up there because of his feelings towards her, and was being firm and unshakeable about it, being her support while she was under a lot lot of stress as an admiral.

EDIT: Messier ninja'd me. You mast3r you


Yah, its shepard reashuring her. Plus, from her other dialog sugests that.SHE is dominant in the bedroom.
@heartface

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darthrevaninlight wrote...

But I play on the 360...
GREAT JUSTICE!!


Gaming platform fail :P

Modifié par Fenrisfil, 11 avril 2012 - 10:13 .


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Fenrisfil wrote...

You can fix that with the gibbed save game editor. There is info somewhere on it, I quoted it in this thread ages back but don't recall it. Just a couple of strings you have to modify that makes the game think Ashley is your friend, even if she's only a friendly zombie.



Fascinating.

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BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

Fenrisfil wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

Well if you got the Gabby/Ken dialogue/flirting and Tali accidentally breaking the ship you avoided the bug. But yes, she has to be either romanced or very-good-friend status apparently. Lucky you, though... I have to replay an entire three games so I can have one where she's not a smoking crater in the ground....


You can fix that with the gibbed save game editor. There is info somewhere on it, I quoted it in this thread ages back but don't recall it. Just a couple of strings you have to modify that makes the game think Ashley is your friend, even if she's only a friendly zombie.



I think I remember Tali breaking the ship, anyone got a yt vid of that? Ash was Ash in that playthough


Here is the Tali engineering fail version with Ken and Gabby alive.

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Well I can kind of see now that Shepard was putting his foot down, I.e no more games we together Ok?

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Fenrisfil wrote...

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

Fenrisfil wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

Well if you got the Gabby/Ken dialogue/flirting and Tali accidentally breaking the ship you avoided the bug. But yes, she has to be either romanced or very-good-friend status apparently. Lucky you, though... I have to replay an entire three games so I can have one where she's not a smoking crater in the ground....


You can fix that with the gibbed save game editor. There is info somewhere on it, I quoted it in this thread ages back but don't recall it. Just a couple of strings you have to modify that makes the game think Ashley is your friend, even if she's only a friendly zombie.



I think I remember Tali breaking the ship, anyone got a yt vid of that? Ash was Ash in that playthough


Here is the Tali engineering fail version with Ken and Gabby alive.

The problem I had with that scene is that in ME2, Tali was in charge of engineering.  In ME3, all three treat her like a kid that knows nothing and even BioWare makes her look incompetent.

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For the Talimancers that haven't read my new blog yet, check it out! You might enjoy it. :lol:

Modifié par Ryuji2, 11 avril 2012 - 10:19 .


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Calinstel wrote...

Gibbed editor can fix it.  It did with my game.  Actually saved Ashley...


The problem with glitches like this is that console players are screwed.

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Fenrisfil wrote...

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That's eventually one of the conclusions I came to as well.  It wasn't my initial thought though when I first saw it.


I think in some way the lines are designed to be taken in different ways depending on context. Since it seems they had planned a Garrus/Tali romance since ME2, I'm not surprised they wrote it a lot of the scenes in a way that the context can change. Although that also leads to a certain amount of annoyance from Talimancers.

EDIT: Top. Been a while. So here's three.


Yeah that's pretty much dead on.  I was annoyed about it at one point. It felt like some lines were intended for that couple and should have changed depending on them being romanced or not to avoid such things.  I guess due to time constraints as well as other factors they just made the context vague so it could be interpeted in different ways by player depending on the situation rather than being specific about it.

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Neverwinter_Knight77 wrote...

Calinstel wrote...

Gibbed editor can fix it.  It did with my game.  Actually saved Ashley...


The problem with glitches like this is that console players are screwed.

I could have sworn I saw that xbox systems can use the gibbed editor as well.  Just have to copy save to USB for porting to and from.
But, since I have not owned a gaming console since the atari 2600, I may be a little out of touch.

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Perhaps, but I've never done anything like that, so... I'm afraid I might accidentally delete the data from my 360's hard drive or something, during the process.

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Deoku wrote...

Yeah that's pretty much dead on.  I was annoyed about it at one point. It felt like some lines were intended for that couple and should have changed depending on them being romanced or not to avoid such things.  I guess due to time constraints as well as other factors they just made the context vague so it could be interpeted in different ways by player depending on the situation rather than being specific about it.


It makes sense given that bioware seemed somewhat rushed by their deadlines. I guess that ultimately makes it EA's fault. Bioware just found a creative solution. I think this is a very similar thing to why so many of the romance scenes with characters are nearly identical when they are merely friendship scenes.

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After being impressed with the artwork here I've been having a go at a Tali drawing (it'll take me forever to finish it and I've not tried drawing anything for years). Out of all the things to draw what is it with her feet? They're coming out completely wrong no matter what I do!

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Neverwinter_Knight77 wrote...

Perhaps, but I've never done anything like that, so... I'm afraid I might accidentally delete the data from my 360's hard drive or something, during the process.

Well, for some bizarre reason, Mass Effect save files can't be copied, so you will end up deleting the data from your hard disc...
But then you'll get a shiny replica on your USB drive, which can be extracted, backed up, edited, and all kinds of stuff.
You can even get Resurgence Pack, N7 gear, and other pre-order things.

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Fenrisfil wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

Yeah, you got me there. Would have been nice to have the option to buy some sort of trinket or something.


She got a rock. What more does she want? Shepards just cheap like that, sometimes he really cheaps out and gives her an invisible rock.

"I bought this with my alliance funding you know!"


WIN.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

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Calinstel wrote...

Fenrisfil wrote...

Here is the Tali engineering fail version with Ken and Gabby alive.

The problem I had with that scene is that in ME2, Tali was in charge of engineering.  In ME3, all three treat her like a kid that knows nothing and even BioWare makes her look incompetent.


It was a cute scene, but it didn't do her reputation as a great engineer a lot of good. Still, despite everyones protest she made the decision to apply her mod without having to be given an okay, so despite being made to look silly, she still seems higher up the chain of command in engineering then Ken and Gabby.

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Calinstel wrote...

Neverwinter_Knight77 wrote...

Calinstel wrote...

Gibbed editor can fix it.  It did with my game.  Actually saved Ashley...


The problem with glitches like this is that console players are screwed.

I could have sworn I saw that xbox systems can use the gibbed editor as well.  Just have to copy save to USB for porting to and from.
But, since I have not owned a gaming console since the atari 2600, I may be a little out of touch.


I had to use some sort of workaround program to get my Shepard's face code into ME3, so if it's anything like that I have some hope that I can use gibbed to fix this issue. However, I do have some fears/reservations about what kinds of OTHER bugs it could cause...
:unsure:

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Fenrisfil wrote...

Calinstel wrote...

Fenrisfil wrote...

Here is the Tali engineering fail version with Ken and Gabby alive.

The problem I had with that scene is that in ME2, Tali was in charge of engineering.  In ME3, all three treat her like a kid that knows nothing and even BioWare makes her look incompetent.


It was a cute scene, but it didn't do her reputation as a great engineer a lot of good. Still, despite everyones protest she made the decision to apply her mod without having to be given an okay, so despite being made to look silly, she still seems higher up the chain of command in engineering then Ken and Gabby.



Its meant to be light hearted, I don't think it really is meant to show her as incompetent, but with Adams tali and the K and G who is in charge down there? lol

Modifié par BigglesFlysAgain, 11 avril 2012 - 10:34 .