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[Deoku]

Whoah who is Tali talking to in line 644?

[Unschuld]

Dilandau3000 wrote...

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...

It is stragne, at first paragon reactions to the re-write action seem to dissaprove, but the morality seems to switch right at the end, you could argue since they were probably brainwashed in the first place by saren, brainwashing them back to normal is justified, but letting them die with their belifs intact seems to be the paragon way... its a hard call really

There were several places in the games where I didn't agree with which choices were paragon or renegade, and that was one of them. Another was the discussion with Vigil on Ilos about shutting off life pods. The choice was simple: either everyone dies, or some are sacrified so that others may live. And if the protheans had chosen to try and save everyone, this cycle would've been reaper chow centuries ago. And agreeing with that was renegade? By that logic a "paragon" Shepard should've let the reapers invade in arrival. There's a difference between "not being ruthless" and "never making any sacrifices regardless of the cost".

Well, they've [devs] said before that Para/Rene isn't Good/Evil, it's just about methods. That whole mission was morally grey to me. The reasoning I see behind the choices there is that as a Renegade you blow up the problem, as a Paragon you prefer to rewrite rather than "kill" them off. We could go into a whole debate (like what's happened before a few months ago) about this situation, but whether rewriting a synthetic is "brainwashing" or not is still a grey area. Even Legion comments to Shepard that he shouldn't place his own organic moral values on a situation involving synthetics.

[darthrevaninlight]

Cheese of Borg wrote...

Rickets wrote...

I remember Tali and Garrus screwing up Fero's because of their proximity mines and sabotage which can kill colonists. Aha I was suprised to see a little girl dropping a big krogan with carnage.


Also recall one of Tali's quotes on the Normandy SR1.
"You have been good to me, and that says something about you".

The begining of the romance!

No, no, no

The beginning of the romance is when Sheploo saved Tali from the rapist turian jaws of evil.

Oh that dashing commander....

[Unschuld]

Deoku wrote...

Whoah who is Tali talking to in line 644?

Daro'Xen.

[-N7-Seeker]

Deoku wrote...

Whoah who is Tali talking to in line 644?

I belive Xen. As stated before.
I always hated that ****.

-Have the geth loaded themselves into your suit yet, Tali? How long until they're talking for you? Until they run you?

Out of the Airlock.

Modifié par -N7-Seeker, 13 avril 2012 - 05:25 .

[bazzag]

darthrevaninlight wrote...

bazzag wrote...

Revan!

yes?

Hello

[darthrevaninlight]

^
Hi:)

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----Garrus and Femshep romance NOT SURE WHERE THIS FITS IN----
>Garrus: Appreciate it. Guess it helps to have something to come back to.
>Femshep: What do you mean, "to come back to"? This is just a fling, Vakarian. I'm using you for your body.
>Garrus: You're so mean... and I'm okay with that.
>"We'll finish this the way we started it... together."


It looks like they got a little confused as to who was femshep and who was Tali while they were making the game =__=

Modifié par darthrevaninlight, 13 avril 2012 - 05:26 .

[TrueMadayar]

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...



Well I must have missed that one, is that the Ash dead glitch?

Nope, it's when they are in the cockpit, I remember it, too. Only all engineering conversation is killed by the Ash Dead Glitch. And I posted a workaround, you have to add two int-values that are missing when Ash is dead, and one of them must be 8 or at least the addendum must be.

[Bfler]

Is that Xen dialog cut or ingame?

[BigglesFlysAgain]

TrueMadayar wrote...

BigglesFlysAgain wrote...



Well I must have missed that one, is that the Ash dead glitch?

Nope, it's when they are in the cockpit, I remember it, too. Only all engineering conversation is killed by the Ash Dead Glitch. And I posted a workaround, you have to add two int-values that are missing when Ash is dead, and one of them must be 8 or at least the addendum must be.

Hmmm, I did get some enginering convos, I just don't remember them much, anyway don't worry

[Deoku]

Unschuld wrote...

Deoku wrote...

Whoah who is Tali talking to in line 644?

Daro'Xen.

Xen is so dirty. lol  Hitting below the belt like that.

[BigglesFlysAgain]

Bfler wrote...

Is that Xen dialog cut or ingame?

Its a cut or never came to fruition mission on the citadel where you have a choice to kill or capture xen, From the dialogue it seems it would have happened if you made peace. I think you could have got her to work on the cruicible,  but that might not work out in as a good choice

Modifié par BigglesFlysAgain, 13 avril 2012 - 05:30 .

[78stonewobble]

Deoku wrote...

Whoah who is Tali talking to in line 644?

I JUST saw that one ...

Shotgun moment if there ever was one

On the other hand ... it's kinda true -.- ...



Do the other Quarians ever recognize a Tali / Shep romance? 


EDIT: Hah... Shepards retirement.

Line 701: "Shepard, AI love consultant"

Modifié par 78stonewobble, 13 avril 2012 - 05:42 .

[Deoku]

No kidding 78 lol That is asking for a interrupt if I ever saw it.

[Cheese of Borg]

darthrevaninlight wrote...

No, no, no

The beginning of the romance is when Sheploo saved Tali from the rapist turian jaws of evil.

Oh that dashing commander....

I read a fanfic once in whice that turrian was actually a rapist. It was... graphic ...

[Exiledone1]

Cheese of Borg wrote...

Rickets wrote...

I remember Tali and Garrus screwing up Fero's because of their proximity mines and sabotage which can kill colonists. Aha I was suprised to see a little girl dropping a big krogan with carnage.


Also recall one of Tali's quotes on the Normandy SR1.
"You have been good to me, and that says something about you".

The begining of the romance!

Yup, I thought the same thing. Here is this heroic guy treating her like a queen when most people treated her awful. Love was in the air. It's fun playing it back from the beginning and seeing if you can notice little hints

[Exiledone1]

78stonewobble wrote...

Deoku wrote...

Whoah who is Tali talking to in line 644?

I JUST saw that one ...

Shotgun moment if there ever was one

On the other hand ... it's kinda true -.- ...



Do the other Quarians ever recognize a Tali / Shep romance? 

I always wondered myself why it seemed so necessary for Tali and Shep to keep their love hidden. No one else's business if we are in love. Lol

[78stonewobble]

Exiledone1 wrote...

78stonewobble wrote...

Do the other Quarians ever recognize a Tali / Shep romance? 

I always wondered myself why it seemed so necessary for Tali and Shep to keep their love hidden. No one else's business if we are in love. Lol

I don't know if I missed something but I'm not entirely sure they're keeping it hidden or atleast just private.

Anything ingame whether it's forbidden (but oh so good ), frowned upon or just rare?

Well for a Quarian to have a relationship with another species.

EDIT: Well there's the "not infront of Xen" part but wasn't that a question of professionalism and the fact Tali doesn't like her?

Modifié par 78stonewobble, 13 avril 2012 - 05:46 .

[BatmanPWNS]

This is what happened after Tali and Garrus landed on the planet in the ending.

[BigglesFlysAgain]

78stonewobble wrote...



I don't know if I missed something but I'm not entirely sure they're keeping it hidden or atleast just private.

Anything ingame whether it's forbidden (but oh so good ), frowned upon or just rare?

Well for a Quarian to have a relationship with another species.

EDIT: Well there's the "not infront of Xen" part but wasn't that a question of professionalism and the fact Tali doesn't like her?

Well it was not in front of Raan actualy, so more not wanted to tell her adopted mother figure.
And from what mordin can tell you in me2, somone has done the "research" about Human+Quarian before

Modifié par BigglesFlysAgain, 13 avril 2012 - 05:49 .

[-N7-Seeker]

Leaked script form my fanfic. Just to see your reaction.

The prision was cold. She saw a shadow over her. It was one of the guards who checked on the prisioners. He weared a blue medium armor, the helmet was white and the Union logo was engraved into the forehead of it. The dark room made a more cold feeling to the cell.

-Why aren't you just kill me?
-We have plans. I cannot tell them. I will get executed.
-Why? I am imprisioned. I wouldn't tell it to anyone.
-You will tell it to the first guard you see, just to get rid of me.
After that, he punched her in the stomach. She crawled to the corner of the cell, and started crying.
-The big, glorious Federation will fall. Just watch.

After a few minutes, an explosion blasted off the whole east wing. and gunfires are blazed in the end of the hallway. Victory or Death! Yelled one of the federal soldier as they rushed the building, killing everyone without a second doubt. The federal soldier was wearing a black armor with red stripes on it. It was a bulky, heavy armor. Standard federal uniform. After they passed another man come thru the hallway. An officer. He was wearing a black coat, with the federation logo on the left side of the chest. A Tartarus pistol was attached to the belt.
He opened the cell, and looked on the woman.
-Adrian!
She hugged the man, and they were kissing for a few minutes.
-Were have you been? I.... I.
-Long story, I'll tell it, when we get back to the camp. The war has just begun.

Then a soldier's voice was heard across the prision.
-Sir! Union soldiers supported by heavy armor are en route! Ten minutes out!
-You got the loudspeakers working already?
-Yes sir. We gave weapons to the prisioners and ready to move out.
-All units move out! The camp is 2 miles to the south! We need to go before the backup gets here.

Modifié par -N7-Seeker, 13 avril 2012 - 05:49 .

[Bfler]

You ever noticed that in ME2 of the three jury members Gerrel is the one who defends Tali and Koris is the one who wants to damn her.
In ME3 Gerrel is the warmonger and Koris is the one who is needed to achieve peace.

[BigglesFlysAgain]

Bfler wrote...

You ever noticed that in ME2 of the three jury members Gerrel is the one who defends Tali and Koris is the one who wants to damn her.
In ME3 Gerrel is the warmonger and Koris is the one who is needed to achieve peace.

yes, becuase its not personal, its just that Talis father was possibly torturing geth, which Korris did not approve of and supports his peace position, and Gerrel does not care and wants war so I see no change.

Modifié par BigglesFlysAgain, 13 avril 2012 - 05:51 .

[darthrevaninlight]

Cheese of Borg wrote...

I read a fanfic once in whice that turrian was actually a rapist. It was... graphic ...

Uh.
I've heard about that.
I really hope I never stumble upon that fanfic.
Ever.

[78stonewobble]

Bfler wrote...

You ever noticed that in ME2 of the three jury members Gerrel is the one who defends Tali and Koris is the one who wants to damn her.
In ME3 Gerrel is the warmonger and Koris is the one who is needed to achieve peace.

I just replayed that yesterday.

Koris wanted to damn Tali atleast partially (in my interpretation) for experimenting on the Geth which could make peace harder.

It wasn't... hmm... personal.


@BigglesFlysAgain: Ah thanks... Me3 is getting a bit hazy. -.-

So it's probably somewhere between rare and frowned upon.

Modifié par 78stonewobble, 13 avril 2012 - 05:54 .